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Old 07-07-2016, 21:41
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The sound of the future and it still is.

Originally a b-side IIRC.

Flur, Bartos, Hutter & Schneider - Gods amongst men.
Does that mean that we don't have to listen to it until later - (on a permanent basis)?
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Old 07-07-2016, 21:45
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Thank goodness we have the best number 1 ever before that load of rubbish
Sorry, but wasn't Iron Maiden's "Bring your daughter to the slaughter" No. 1 the first week of 2000?
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Old 07-07-2016, 21:50
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Tight Fit I can tolerate, Goombay Dance Band is enough to put my teeth on edge
I very nearly hit the bloke from Goombay Dance Band in the face with a door shortly before their first TOTP appearance, when I was working at BBC television centre in the early eighties.
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Old 07-07-2016, 21:53
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Excellent edition tonight.

Question: When did Top of the Pops start to broadcast in stereo? I never really heard it in stereo until I got a stereo TV in the late 90s, I believe it was called Nicam Stereo in the mid 80s when it first appeared.
I think NICAM was initially (around 1988/89) broadcast in London (experimentally) but I don't know when it went nationwide. Try looking up "NICAM" on Wikipedia.
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Old 07-07-2016, 21:55
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Anyone else think the Jets singer looked like Shakin Stevens?
Maybe he was trying to.
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Old 07-07-2016, 21:56
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- it hadn't been invented yet - later in the year though!
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Old 07-07-2016, 21:57
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I'm trying to think of one now!
UFO? ELP? (And I'm sure there are more!)
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Old 07-07-2016, 22:02
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I paid £45 for the English language set and @£65 for the German when they first came out.

"The Mix" is the closest they've come to a Best Of.
Mmm, yeah and thanks, I've also been told that before. Maybe I need to give that one a try. I thought though that contained lots of remixed versions(?) though which is why I haven't bothered investigating it as yet as I thought the originals would be more appropriate to hear.

It's interesting that nobody - even the wonderful John Peel got the joke about XTC's name - it was originally supposed to be pronounced "Ecstasy".
Is that true? I thought it was still referred to as MDMA back then (late 70's when XTC presumably formed and even around the now/then early 80's) and didn't become known as 'Ecstasy' until the mid/late '80's. I could be wrong there though.

Well done France BTW, I totally thought Germany would win that, wrong!
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Old 07-07-2016, 22:10
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Never Take Me Alive is a great song though!
Indeed it is. And I thought that was the one we were going to see tonight. I now see that's five years away and by essentially the same but actually a different named group though! I'd forgotten ALL about that. Kirk Brandon's an interesting one. He certainly looked the part back then but never really became the 'pop star' or success I suspect many record company types expected him to be. I wonder what he does these days.
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Old 07-07-2016, 22:10
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Mmm, yeah and thanks, I've also been told that before. Maybe I need to give that one a try. I thought though that contained lots of remixed versions(?) though which is why I haven't bothered investigating it as yet as I thought the originals would be more appropriate to hear.
Think of Trans Europe Express, Man Machine and Computer World as a three disc Best Of. You could then go back to Autobahn and forward to Electric Cafe/Techno Pop and the rest if you like those (how could you not?!)
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Old 07-07-2016, 22:11
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Just catching up with tonights show and Soft Cell have blown anything else out of the water with Say Hello Wave Goodbye.....not seen the video in such a long time so was a real treat
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Old 07-07-2016, 22:12
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Mmm, yeah and thanks, I've also been told that before. Maybe I need to give that one a try. I thought though that contained lots of remixed versions(?) though which is why I haven't bothered investigating it as yet as I thought the originals would be more appropriate to hear.



Is that true? I thought it was still referred to as MDMA back then (late 70's when XTC presumably formed and even around thee now/then early 80's) and didn't become known as 'Ecstasy' until the mid/late '80's. I could be wrong there though.

Well done France BTW, I totally thought Germany would win that, wrong!
The name "XTC" had nothing to do with drugs - it was just an alternative way of spelling "ecstasy".

And thanks for the spoiler on the Euro 2016 result - isn't it a good job that I care even less about football than I do Kraftwerk?
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Old 07-07-2016, 22:26
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Think of Trans Europe Express, Man Machine and Computer World as a three disc Best Of. You could then go back to Autobahn and forward to Electric Cafe/Techno Pop and the rest if you like those (how could you not?!)
Ok, thank you for that Straker. I'm pretty sure my local library has a good selection of Kraftwerk discs, I'll check that out further tomorrow. At 20p for a weeks loan you can't go wrong really.

Just catching up with tonight's show and Soft Cell have blown anything else out of the water with Say Hello Wave Goodbye.....not seen the video in such a long time so was a real treat
Ah, yes - so very, very true! I'm hoping we get a second TOTP viewing of the video when it leaps from 18 to number 3. I'm not sure we do though. Shame they never made a studio appearance with it, but I think they were stuck in the States at the time still having to promote Tainted Love which spent a then record breaking 43 weeks on the US charts and made a gradual but continual climb up their top 100, eventually peaking at No. 8, although it sold way more than many of the then No. 1's over there.
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Old 07-07-2016, 22:30
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1. The name "XTC" had nothing to do with drugs - it was just an alternative way of spelling "ecstasy".

2. And thanks for the spoiler on the Euro 2016 result - isn't it a good job that I care even less about football than I do Kraftwerk?

1. Oh, ok. Thanks for clarifying.


2. Umm, yes I guess it is. I hope its not ruined it for anyone else in that case though.
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Old 07-07-2016, 23:14
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Sorry, but wasn't Iron Maiden's "Bring your daughter to the slaughter" No. 1 the first week of 2000?

9 years out!


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Old 07-07-2016, 23:20
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9 years out!


/Ken Bruce
Y'mean 1991? Was it really that long ago?

(And I'm also glad you weren't critical about it being my choice of the best No.1 ever).
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Old 07-07-2016, 23:44
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I know Zoo aren't very popular on here, but wasn't that the first time either they or Legs & Co produced what was almost like their own music video, as opposed to just appearing next to the audience in the studio? I was impressed by the way it looked with the totally white background and the way the camera moved around, even if the dancing itself was naff.
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Old 08-07-2016, 00:04
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Me too. I remember it's odd chart run of in at 40 dropping out then re-entering at 40 the next week,
There's only another two or three weeks of erratic chart runs before the chart sales week reverted back to the traditional Monday to Saturday and chart runs became more normal.
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Old 08-07-2016, 00:10
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I was thinking that but wasn't that on a Friday early evening? I thought the Relax video would be a little too 'risque' for then
'Relax' was definitely on The Tube but I don't remember if it was a studio appearance or the video that was shown.
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Old 08-07-2016, 00:17
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Good TOTP tonight! John Peel, what a legend! Loved Soft Cell, " Say Hello,Wave Goodbye" such a brilliant sad song. Loved "The Model" so much. I actually remember buying the single to the distgust of my so called friends! Being 13 was crap!
This year of totp is really in my heyday of record buying. In a way I'm sad I now stream stuff through Spotify. There was an art in a 7"or 12" record.
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Old 08-07-2016, 00:39
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A bit extra info on the effect of the hybrid chart sales week (as I'm now too late to edit my above post).

It's believed the the odd chart sales week was responsible "last week" for Shaky making it to the top when it was probably likely that otherwise Kraftwerk would have got there a week earlier than they did. It also accounts for Kraftwerk dropping from 2 to 3 before climbing up to number 1 - it was very rare for a number 1 single to do that and certainly (from what I can recall) only '(Just Like) Starting Over by John Lennon had done that since the 1960s. Similarly the week Kraftwerk did climb to number 1 the hybrid chart week possibly cost The Stranglers a number 1 spot.

The following week 'Golden Brown' almost sold enough to be number 1 but missed out to The Jam by just a few thousand copies.
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Old 08-07-2016, 00:50
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I meant to post a couple of weeks ago that the video for 'Drowning In Berlin' by The Moblies features a young Joann Kenny who would go on to play the part of Jane Bishop in mid 80s "Grange Hill" (she appears on the 'Just Say No' single). She's better known to me for her appearance in Doctor Who's "The Curse Of Fenric" in 1989, one of Sylvester McCoy's better Doctor Who stories. Sadly she died in 2010 at the age of 37 from multiple organ failure associated with alcoholism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDMRzldiJSY

^ the above video is a lovely tribute to Joann.
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Old 08-07-2016, 01:11
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Speaking of 'Trans Europe Express' (good to see a lot of love for the track, it's excellent), it was sampled to great effect on one of the first (and very influential) hip-hop / electro records

Afrika Bambaataa And The Soul Sonic Force - Planet Rock (1982)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l39W-5Xp7as
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Old 08-07-2016, 04:02
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UFO? ELP? (And I'm sure there are more!)
I'm surprised there is not some dance/trance band called N-R-G also!! - or maybe there is & I've had the good fortune not to hear of them yet!!


Is that true? I thought it was still referred to as MDMA back then (late 70's when XTC presumably formed and even around the now/then early 80's) and didn't become known as 'Ecstasy' until the mid/late '80's. I could be wrong there though.
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I think XTC have been around since about 1973 or 74! - I could be wrong, but I think I saw a very early clip of one of their rehearsals on YouTube once - but then it is 4am - so equally, I could've dreamt it!!
I always pronounced them as X-T-C rather than ECTASY the drug & it wasn't until the late 80s I thought maybe they wanted to be pronounced the latter, but like others said - it was long before the drug. They will always be XTC to me though!
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Old 08-07-2016, 04:16
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I know Zoo aren't very popular on here, but wasn't that the first time either they or Legs & Co produced what was almost like their own music video, as opposed to just appearing next to the audience in the studio? I was impressed by the way it looked with the totally white background and the way the camera moved around, even if the dancing itself was naff.
No, it wasn't. Legs & Co. dancing to Michael Jackson's "Don't Stop Till You Get Enough", immediately springs to mind. However, of course that wasn't a regular occurance. Even Pan's People at times appeared where the use more elaborate camera overlays were used. Technically, Zoo are just awful.
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