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Because I hate it. I see nothing romantic in rubbish teams playing awful football winning it because they out-uglied the better teams or big teams self-destructed. To me, it's just a sign of the poor quality of the tournament. I'm not a fan of the "underdog" at all, which is why I still shudder when I think of Euro 2004 or World Cup 2002 (bar the end result).
I can't be the only one to see the humour in various Dutch and French meltdowns, over the years. Brazil getting spanked 7-0? Hilarious. |
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Oh, come on. Everyone likes to see a bit of self-destruction, don't they?
I can't be the only one to see the humour in various Dutch and French meltdowns, over the years. Brazil getting spanked 7-0? Hilarious. And I adore the Dutch (and not just for the general beauty of their male population). Them not qualifying for Euros 2016 was very painful viewing. The French always rivaled my Italy in the early 00's so to hell with them, except when Zidane was on the team. I couldn't bring myself to dislike them when Zizou played. Anyway, to sum up, I really can't care less about underdogs and find nothing appealing about them progressing far in competitions. I think I may have been the only person in England who didn't find it awesome that Leicester won the EPL. I just found it sad and embarrassing for the big teams. |
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Absolutely hated every minute of the Brazil meltdown and I'm not even a Brazil fan. I just hate legends being destroyed and giants being brought down to their knees. It's awful to watch and I hated the disrespect Germany showed. Did they really have to score 7 against Brazil in Brazil?
And I adore the Dutch (and not just for the general beauty of their male population). Them not qualifying for Euros 2016 was very painful viewing. The French always rivaled my Italy in the early 00's so to hell with them, except when Zidane was on the team. I couldn't bring myself to dislike them when Zizou played. Anyway, to sum up, I really can't care less about underdogs and find nothing appealing about them progressing far in competitions. I think I may have been the only person in England who didn't find it awesome that Leicester won the EPL. I just found it sad and embarrassing for the big teams. Brazil thought that they just had to turn up, and the trophy was theirs. I loved seeing them get absolutely gubbed. Germany deserved to score as many as they could. I also didn't find it 'awesome' that Leicester won the league, but only because it showed my own club up for the shambles that they were. I'd humbly suggest that football isn't really for you. If you want a sport where the favourites always win, try tennis. |
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What exactly was wrong in a team scoring goals, isn't that kind of the whole point in playing, to score more than your opponent??
I loved it when my own team scored nine past Ipswich, or on an international level, when England scored five past Germany in Germany. Scoring lots of goals is not disrespectful at all, it is part of the game, it is not the team scoring the goals fault in the opposition has a really bad defensive set-up is it? |
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Absolutely hated every minute of the Brazil meltdown and I'm not even a Brazil fan. I just hate legends being destroyed and giants being brought down to their knees. It's awful to watch and I hated the disrespect Germany showed. Did they really have to score 7 against Brazil in Brazil?
And I adore the Dutch (and not just for the general beauty of their male population). Them not qualifying for Euros 2016 was very painful viewing. The French always rivaled my Italy in the early 00's so to hell with them, except when Zidane was on the team. I couldn't bring myself to dislike them when Zizou played. Anyway, to sum up, I really can't care less about underdogs and find nothing appealing about them progressing far in competitions. I think I may have been the only person in England who didn't find it awesome that Leicester won the EPL. I just found it sad and embarrassing for the big teams. |
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'Disrespect'? Get a grip.
Brazil thought that they just had to turn up, and the trophy was theirs. I loved seeing them get absolutely gubbed. Germany deserved to score as many as they could. I also didn't find it 'awesome' that Leicester won the league, but only because it showed my own club up for the shambles that they were. I'd humbly suggest that football isn't really for you. If you want a sport where the favourites always win, try tennis. But this was Brazil - the 5-time World Champion - in their own backyard completely falling apart. It would have been enough embarrassment for them (forever) to lose 5:1, but 7:1 in a semi final against this magical football nation was an unnecessary humiliation that Germany did not need to do. And my football-guru/God Fabio Cannavaro agreed. He said that if he were on the pitch, he would have told his team to stop at 5. Great minds and all that ![]() I'm not saying the favourite should always win, but to me, a competition is interesting when all stars show what they can do and we get to see some beautiful, skillful football - not awful teams full of people no one has ever heard of winning ugly or teams full of stars showing nothing. I just don't like little teams mixing it up. In an ideal world, by the quarter finals there would only be good teams left and the competition would be so much more exciting and unpredictable. 2006 is the benchmark for me (out of the World Cups I've watched since the 90's) because by the semi-finals we only had great teams left. There was some amazing football played. Stars were all at their best. And the final was the best ever. Anyway, I cannot believe you are suggesting a sport which involves a bunch of beautiful and very rich men sweating for 90 minutes (or more) is not for me?! I do follow most sports, but football (and figure skating - odd combination I know) is where my heart lies.
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What exactly was wrong in a team scoring goals, isn't that kind of the whole point in playing, to score more than your opponent??
I loved it when my own team scored nine past Ipswich, or on an international level, when England scored five past Germany in Germany. Scoring lots of goals is not disrespectful at all, it is part of the game, it is not the team scoring the goals fault in the opposition has a really bad defensive set-up is it? Quote:
Disrespect? Are they supposed to stop trying so that their opponents don't feel too sad?
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Belgium have a lot to prove IMO. A great squad on paper but nobody knows if they genuinely are a strong side or not.
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So the 'small' teams are already written off as playing ugly football, and it's still terrible that Germany had the temerity to play football against their opponents two years ago rather than be lovely and tickle their balls until they feel better, which would of course be respectful and not at all patronising.
Can we just close the international football forums? |
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Winning 5:1 against Brazil in a World Cup semi-final in Brazil is humiliation; winning 7:1 is a destruction of a legend that has been a part of football forever. It was unnecessary and yes of course they could have controlled how many goals they scored.
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Winning 5:1 against Brazil in a World Cup semi-final in Brazil is humiliation; winning 7:1 is a destruction of a legend that has been a part of football forever. It was unnecessary and yes of course they could have controlled how many goals they scored.
Germany were the best team in that World Cup and as you said, Brazil were very poor and were as usual, over hyped by the media all the way. Germany did what any team would have done... And it's easy for your man Cannavaro to say otherwise,, Italy have never been in that position
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If I support a team that's getting hammered, I'd at least like to go down swinging against an opponent firing on all cylinders rather than have my opponents decide to take it easy to preserve a legacy they shouldn't concern themselves or because a hunky man may agree. It would have been a million times more embarrassing to have Germany stop scoring even though they easily could.
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Winning 5:1 against Brazil in a World Cup semi-final in Brazil is humiliation; winning 7:1 is a destruction of a legend that has been a part of football forever. It was unnecessary and yes of course they could have controlled how many goals they scored.
Pass it amongst themselves without any forward movement?? When the defence that Brazil had in that match is there to be scored against, can you really blame the Germans for doing so on multiple occasions?? Scoring goals is (unless you are LvG) the whole point of football, so having a go at a team for doing just that does seem rather odd and out of place. |
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Xela, I do like your posts in general, but having a go at Germany for continuing to try and score goals in a World Cup semi final is ridiculous!
Germany were the best team in that World Cup and as you said, Brazil were very poor and were as usual, over hyped by the media all the way. Germany did what any team would have done... And it's easy for your man Cannavaro to say otherwise,, Italy have never been in that position ![]() ![]() As for Cannavaro being "my man" - believe me, I'm trying ![]() Quote:
So the 'small' teams are already written off as playing ugly football, and it's still terrible that Germany had the temerity to play football against their opponents two years ago rather than be lovely and tickle their balls until they feel better, which would of course be respectful and not at all patronising.
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They couldn't take the ball into the corner flag every time they attacked to waste time. I've just seen the last two goals again now. The defending for both goals was rubbish, what else was Germany to do?
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If I support a team that's getting hammered, I'd at least like to go down swinging against an opponent firing on all cylinders rather than have my opponents decide to take it easy to preserve a legacy they shouldn't concern themselves or because a hunky man may agree. It would have been a million times more embarrassing to have Germany stop scoring even though they easily could.
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What pray tell were the Germans supposed to do, just get the ball, and then stand still with it?
Pass it amongst themselves without any forward movement?? When the defence that Brazil had in that match is there to be scored against, can you really blame the Germans for doing so on multiple occasions?? Scoring goals is (unless you are LvG) the whole point of football, so having a go at a team for doing just that does seem rather odd and out of place. I hate legends being destroyed in ANY sport. It's painful to watch. |
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Enjoy being homeless.
Legends aren't made by people feeling sorry for them. |
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Haha fair point well made
![]() As for Cannavaro being "my man" - believe me, I'm trying ![]() I can bet my house all of Brazil would have preferred to have been patronised than to have a 7:1 result recorded against them. That's something that will never be erased from the history books and it will never be forgotten. I hate legends being destroyed in ANY sport. It's painful to watch. |
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Exactly, the fact that Orlando's Kaka still gets a place in the squad just shows how lacking in development in that area they currently are, who knows a good showing from Ronaldinho this Sunday and he might get a call up!
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I hate legends being destroyed in ANY sport. It's painful to watch.
![]() You can't classify the current team as legends based on what Pele and co achieved over 40 years ago. That's like saying no-one should score too many goals against the current England team because it would be disrespectful to Bobby Moore and Bobby Charlton! |
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Which members of the Brazil 2014 team who lost to Germany would you classify as "legends"? David Luiz, Fernandinho, Fred?
![]() You can't classify the current team as legends based on what Pele and co achieved over 40 years ago. That's like saying no-one should score too many goals against the current England team because it would be disrespectful to Bobby Moore and Bobby Charlton! |
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I was really disappointed with their performance at the world cup and especially at De Bruyne. He was given the role of the number 10 and was pretty anonymous, did not rate him at all after the tournament, however at City he has shown he is a class player Maybe, the world cup was one tournament too early for this crop of players. If Wilmots lets them express themselves, they should get to the semi finals.
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Belgium were talked up as potential World Cup winners in 2014 but I thought they were rather flat and sterile at the tournament. They have a fantastic group of players on paper but the jury is still out on them and they have a lot to prove in the next month.
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I still think it's maybe one tournament too soon for Belgium. They should easily get to the QFs and maybe even the SFs, but I can't see them winning it. On paper they have a great team but they still lack major experience at tournaments. They could surprise me but I think the Final or winning the whole thing is a little beyond them.
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I still think it's maybe one tournament too soon for Belgium. They should easily get to the QFs and maybe even the SFs, but I can't see them winning it. On paper they have a great team but they still lack major experience at tournaments. They could surprise me but I think the Final or winning the whole thing is a little beyond them.
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I hope they go far as some of my actual money is on De Bruyne as an outside bet for golden boot. Poland too, Milik's odds looked nice.
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just did one of those predictor things and ended up with france winning it with germany, poland and croatia making up the last 4... paddy power offering me 200/1 for that semi-final line up... i'll have some of that.
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After doing a Euros predictor the other day, I surprised even myself by apparently predicting Belgium to do Russia in the final.
Regardless, there's always someone unexpected who goes on a great run at the Euros. What was the ones that you tried? |
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