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I'm not impressed by the Germany squad at all. Hummels is utter rubbish (yes, I know he's sadly a Bayern player now) and Huth was left at home. Schweinsteiger is painful to watch nowadays and I don't think he's even half-fit and without Lahm to organise the team, I just don't see them doing well.
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Not every 'underdog' wins by out-uglying the other teams. Leicester certainly didn't.
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I have tried a couple of these predictor things too, but the ones I did cannot seem to negotiate the four best third placed sides out of the six. From what I could see they seemed to randomly allocate those four.
What was the ones that you tried? http://europredictor.uefa.com/bracket/newprediction not found one yet where you predict the actual results... |
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the one i did you had to pick the 4 best 3rd place sides yourself...
http://europredictor.uefa.com/bracket/newprediction not found one yet where you predict the actual results... I was not convinced the four third placed sides were placed correctly though. England had Albania in the second round in my one. |
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France will be the team to beat I reckon. Home soil, fans at home. Mind you, people said that about Brazil two years ago!
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France's injury problems continue to mount. Having said, that, they are brilliant to watch going forward and have shut out the disruptive players from their squad (oui, that's you Karim). My only quibble is Gignac ahead of Gameiro or Lacazette. I can see Deschamps wanted another Giroud type player but.......he's their Emile Heskey.
I quite fancy Spain if del Bosque can lose his fatal attraction to Casillas. In Morata, Aduriz and Nolito they now have actual strikers. |
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Between Spain and France for me.
Poland and Croatia as dark horses. |
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Spain, France or Germany for me, with Italy the likeliest outside of that trio. France would be clear favourites for me if not for their defence being decimated, but they are extremely strong in midfield and upfront, plus obviously have the added advantage of being at home.
Belgium need to find a pair of proper full-backs from somehwere, and pair Vertonghen and Alderweireld at centre-back. a lot of their sterility comes from a lack of real width. that and Eden Hazard being the Emperor's New Clothes of football. |
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I've only just familiarised myself with the groups just now, and did the predictor thingy, and try as I might I've not been able to come up with a probable scenario where Germany and France don't meet in one semi, with Spain in the other.
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have France ever beaten Germany in a semi final?!
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I think Switzerland will do well in this tournament, will either top or runner up in their group with France. Also Russia, will have chance.
Germany is likely to go out first match after the group stages. Spain has been awful and like Germany, get knocked out at first round. I think England is the dark horse, for once they have players, who are in good health and perform well. They are a great attacking side now, and the old guard have left, giving them a new needed vitality. |
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I think it will probably Germany but France has a great chance. And i just dont think Spain have got enough experienced strikers in their squad
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I think it will probably Germany but France has a great chance. And i just dont think Spain have got enough experienced strikers in their squad
http://promotions.coral.co.uk/landing-pages/crazy-prices2-online-0606/ I'm going with Thomas Muller to be the top goal scorer. Coral are giving a free £5 bet for every goal scored when you place a £20 bet on the top goal scorer. I think Muller will be top and easily bag 5 or 6 goals so hopefully lots of free bets throughout the tournament! |
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I think the tournament, like the World Cup could be very unpredictable in the group stages. The six seeds may find tough opposition from mid level teams on the rise.
France look comfortable with Romania, Albania and Switzerland. No shocks expected there. Again Russia, Slovakia and Wales will be looking for damage limitation against England and will battle between each other for those minor places. Germany should overpower Ukraine and Northern Ireland but Poland are on the up and will definitely give them a game. Spain's group is tough. The Croatians think they have their best team since the 90s. The Czech Republic and Turkey seem like real battlers who will cause more problems than you'd expect on paper. Belgium and Italy could face plenty of difficulties from Ireland and Sweden. We know the Irish are battlers. Sweden could be inspired by Zlatan to overachieve. Austria and Hungary both have their best teams since the 80s. Iceland have been a revelation in qualifying. It's a banana skin group for Portugal.really. For overall winner, I can't see past Germany or France but as they seem destined to meet in the semi, then leading teams from the other side of the draw need also to be considered. That's England, Spain and Italy. We'd have to get past Italy or Belgium to meet Spain in the semi. If we meet Italy in the quarters we're stuffed as we never beat them in tournaments but getting past Belgium and then Spain is more plausible. Still a France vs Spain final is the most likely if you go with the odds. Germany vs Spain looks good too especially as France has trouble with Germany in tournaments and could well lose the semi. I see both finals are 10/1 so the bookies agree with me. A France vs England final is worth an outside bet at 22/1. The best odds for realistic finalists has to be Germany vs Italy at 35-1. Assuming Germany wins their group, can only happen if Italy finish second in their group but then go on a run. All very interesting!! |
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Fellaini's blond hair makes me want to root against Belgium.
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Nice breakdown Mandark.
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I think the tournament, like the World Cup could be very unpredictable in the group stages. The six seeds may find tough opposition from mid level teams on the rise.
France look comfortable with Romania, Albania and Switzerland. No shocks expected there. Again Russia, Slovakia and Wales will be looking for damage limitation against England and will battle between each other for those minor places. Germany should overpower Ukraine and Northern Ireland but Poland are on the up and will definitely give them a game. Spain's group is tough. The Croatians think they have their best team since the 90s. The Czech Republic and Turkey seem like real battlers who will cause more problems than you'd expect on paper. Belgium and Italy could face plenty of difficulties from Ireland and Sweden. We know the Irish are battlers. Sweden could be inspired by Zlatan to overachieve. Austria and Hungary both have their best teams since the 80s. Iceland have been a revelation in qualifying. It's a banana skin group for Portugal.really. For overall winner, I can't see past Germany or France but as they seem destined to meet in the semi, then leading teams from the other side of the draw need also to be considered. That's England, Spain and Italy. We'd have to get past Italy or Belgium to meet Spain in the semi. If we meet Italy in the quarters we're stuffed as we never beat them in tournaments but getting past Belgium and then Spain is more plausible. Still a France vs Spain final is the most likely if you go with the odds. Germany vs Spain looks good too especially as France has trouble with Germany in tournaments and could well lose the semi. I see both finals are 10/1 so the bookies agree with me. A France vs England final is worth an outside bet at 22/1. The best odds for realistic finalists has to be Germany vs Italy at 35-1. Assuming Germany wins their group, can only happen if Italy finish second in their group but then go on a run. All very interesting!! If (and that's a huge IF in my book) Italy manage to get out of the group and progress anywhere near Germany they have a good chance, as Italy is Germany's boogie opponent in tournaments. Italy can lose to anyone and everyone, but they will always beat Germany. Bizarrely, Germany have a mental block against Italy (as England do with Germany). |
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Nice breakdown Mandark.
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I wish I was as optimistic as you about Italy's chances...
If (and that's a huge IF in my book) Italy manage to get out of the group and progress anywhere near Germany they have a good chance, as Italy is Germany's boogie opponent in tournaments. Italy can lose to anyone and everyone, but they will always beat Germany. Bizarrely, Germany have a mental block against Italy (as England do with Germany). |
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Conte's a bit of a taskmaster by all accounts, so they may be a bit too workmanlike. I know shirt numbers rarely mean much, but Thiago Motta as a no.10 is as uninspiring as it gets.
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The thing with having the best 4 third place teams going through is that there are no dead rubber games. When I did the prediction game, one of my best 4 third place teams only had 1 point and 2 only had 3! So you'll find that if a team has 0 points after 2 games they'll still be putting up a fight unlike previous years. On the bright side - it means England can't go out after 2 matches
![]() Having said that, I have stuck to type and have Germany, Spain, France and Italy in the semi finals with Germany as winners. I'm unsure about Italy - but as I had them playing England in the QF, I went with my head not heart. I also had Poland playing Spain in QF which could be a potential upset. |
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The reason why I rate Italy this time is that it's rare for them to have two bad tournaments in a row. They were terrible in the 2010 & 2014 world cups yet runners up in Euro 2012. Their league might not be in a great place but their national team still has the technical ability to cause any team problems on their day. They know it's going to be a tough group so the players might be on their game early.
We all know what happens when there is a betting scandal in Italy...Now I wouldn't even know who they would look to for some inspiration on the pitch. And the fact that it's a difficult group is terrible for Italy because they never get into gear until about the quarter/semi finals. Quote:
Conte's a bit of a taskmaster by all accounts, so they may be a bit too workmanlike. I know shirt numbers rarely mean much, but Thiago Motta as a no.10 is as uninspiring as it gets.
The only tiny glimmer of hope is that Conte got Italy playing some awful-looking football again, which is playing to their strengths. |
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I've been checking out the Golden Boot odds on Oddschecker. Always a minefield for punters but I'm confident having got Kane at 14/1 as top goal scorer for the season!
Bookies have Ronaldo and Muller leading the way at 8/1. Fancy Muller to do it more than Ronaldo. But I think Griezmann is better value at 10/1. For France to win, he's going to have to do most of the goal scoring with Benzema not around and I can't see Giroud or Martial doing it. Can't believe that bookies have him as 4th favourite with odds as low as 12/1. Get real!!Lewandowski might be worth a punt at 16/1. Poland have a difficult group but there's always one team that goes on an unexpected run. His free scoring could help Poland do it. A hat-trick against Northern Ireland would help!! Harry Kane at 16/1...? Nah!! Even if England do well, we are not a free scoring team like Germany. So that rules out Rooney at 40/1 but he could be a decent bet for top English goalscorer at 5/1. Vardy is better value at 9/1 though. Morata is the best Spanish hope and Lukaku the Belgian one. Both around 20/1. I think the problem with these teams is that the goals are likely to be spread around their talented sets of players. How about Pelle at 50/1? If you fancy Italy to do well then he's going to have to score a few goals. Could he be the new Toto Schillaci?! The odds seem very generous for strikers from the less fancied sides and as the World Cup showed unfancied strikers can bang in a few. Wouldn’t be surprised if a 100/1 shot took the golden boot. It is after all the year of the underdog!! |
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If France had Raphael Varane and Karim Benzema, i would have put my house on them to win it, but without those two im not so sure
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If France had Raphael Varane and Karim Benzema, i would have put my house on them to win it, but without those two im not so sure
That extortion story is just insane in its ridiculousness He is rightly out |
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