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Ben96
23-05-2016
Belle & Doctor Bailey, is the worst storyline in Emmerdale during Kate Oates Time? Firstly, another affair, really Emmerdale? Secondly, as if Belle would do this to someone (Angie I mean) after seeing what her dad did to her mum. How can she still be angry with Zak, when she's now just as bad as him?
The only way this storyline can be saved is it transpires that Belle is suffering from some form of mental health problem again following her mum and dad splitting, which is causing her to have this affair, but I seriously doubt it.

I don't usually complain, and Emmerdale has some great sotrylines atm (Ashley's Dementia for e.g) , but this is just awful isn't it?

Here's the latest serving of crap this storyline has to offer
http://www.soapsquawk.co.uk/emmerdal...doctor-bailey/

If I was the actress that plays Belle and I was pitched this storyline, I would've told them where to shove it
Adrian_Ward1
23-05-2016
It's a very poor Storyline.
little-monster
23-05-2016
Not keen on it but i understand the relevance of it on Belle growing up before our eyes. After seeing her waste away following Gemma's death and her breakdown, we are seeing Belle taking control of her life and becoming a woman.
Ben96
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Adrian_Ward1:
“It's a very poor Storyline.”

Abysmal. It's ironic that Emmerdale is on the whole the best soap (In my opinion) most of the time, yet this is one of the worst storylines any soap has seen I think in at least this year so far.
Adrian_Ward1
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Ben96:
“Abysmal. It's ironic that Emmerdale is on the whole the best soap (In my opinion) most of the time, yet this is one of the worst storylines any soap has seen I think in at least this year so far.”



Totally agree with your Statment .
Mark_Washingto1
23-05-2016
While Belle and Dr. Bailey is not good, there are worse stories Kate Oates has done. I think the Zack/Joanie pairing is the worst. Breaking up the shows longest running and most stable couple is unforgivable.
Ben96
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“Not keen on it but i understand the relevance of it on Belle growing up before our eyes. After seeing her waste away following Gemma's death and her breakdown, we are seeing Belle taking control of her life and becoming a woman.”

I suppose, but would she really do this to Jermaine's wife after seeing what it did her to her mum?, unless she's mentally Ill again as I said.
Danny_Francis
23-05-2016
It is garbage to be fair
Sunnydays
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Ben96:
“Abysmal. It's ironic that Emmerdale is on the whole the best soap (In my opinion) most of the time, yet this is one of the worst storylines any soap has seen I think in at least this year so far.”

Agree....
Ben96
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“While Belle and Dr. Bailey is not good, there are worse stories Kate Oates has done. I think the Zack/Joanie pairing is the worst. Breaking up the shows longest running and most stable couple is unforgivable.”

Yeah Zak & Joanie's pretty bad too, but we weren't seeing much of Zak & Lisa before Joanie came along, so maybe they were having marital problems behind closed doors or something? I can understand why they did it (to show that even the strongest couples can break up) but I still didn't like the storyline, and It's out of character for Zak.
However, I would argue that Belle / Jermaine is worse because I just can't see how she would do that to Jermaine's wife after seeing what it did to her mum as I said earlier, so I think that part of it is ridiculous, she should have refused the storyline in my opinion.
Mark_Washingto1
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Ben96:
“Yeah Zak & Joanie's pretty bad too, but we weren't seeing much of Zak & Lisa before Joanie came along, so maybe they were having marital problems behind closed doors or something? I can understand why they did it (to show that even the strongest couples can break up) but I still didn't like the storyline, and It's out of character for Zak.
However, I would argue that Belle / Jermaine is worse because I just can't see how she would do that to Jermaine's wife after seeing what it did to her mum as I said earlier, so I think that part of it is ridiculous, she should have refused the storyline in my opinion. ”

I see your point about Belle doing going with Dr. Bailey after the Zack/Joanie mess but I still think Zack and Joanie are worse. Most soap couples end up breaking up, one thing I think that the US soaps get right is they usually have one solid couple on the show that they don't break up, and to me Zack and Lisa fit this, their marriage should be what other characters aspire to have. But Kate Oates ruined it with this horrible story and I think what made it worse was that Zack and Lisa seemed perfectly happy and it was so out of character for Zack to claim he's not in love with Lisa anymore.
Ben96
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“I see your point about Belle doing going with Dr. Bailey after the Zack/Joanie mess but I still think Zack and Joanie are worse. Most soap couples end up breaking up, one thing I think that the US soaps get right is they usually have one solid couple on the show that they don't break up, and to me Zack and Lisa fit this, their marriage should be what other characters aspire to have. But Kate Oates ruined it with this horrible story and I think what made it worse was that Zack and Lisa seemed perfectly happy and it was so out of character for Zack to claim he's not in love with Lisa anymore.”

I agree, soooo out of character, let's just agree than both Belle & Jemaine and Zak & Joanie are both terrible storylines not true to their respective characters
Mark_Washingto1
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Ben96:
“I agree, soooo out of character, let's just agree than both Belle & Jemaine and Zak & Joanie are both terrible storylines not true to their respective characters ”

I can agree on that. Kate Oates really gave us some clunkers for stories her last few months.
Janet Plank
23-05-2016
The only way that the writers can close the story with Belle and her doctor is to have him struck off for taking advantage of a 17 yr.old vulnerable patient. Even in Soapland, he should not be allowed to get away with this.
Ben96
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Janet Plank:
“The only way that the writers can close the story with Belle and her doctor is to have him struck off for taking advantage of a 17 yr.old vulnerable patient. Even in Soapland, he should not be allowed to get away with this.”

Agree, the sooner it happens the better, want this storyline to end and the show can move on from it, it's terrible.
Spoiler
Did you read the spoiler on Soap Sqawk? Do you think Cain will reveal the affair to Angie? If so, she'd definitely have him lose his job.
Andybear
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Ben96:
“Belle & Doctor Bailey, is the worst storyline in Emmerdale during Kate Oates Time? Firstly, another affair, really Emmerdale? Secondly, as if Belle would do this to someone (Angie I mean) after seeing what her dad did to her mum. How can she still be angry with Zak, when she's now just as bad as him?
The only way this storyline can be saved is it transpires that Belle is suffering from some form of mental health problem again following her mum and dad splitting, which is causing her to have this affair, but I seriously doubt it.

I don't usually complain, and Emmerdale has some great sotrylines atm (Ashley's Dementia for e.g) , but this is just awful isn't it?

Here's the latest serving of crap this storyline has to offer
http://www.soapsquawk.co.uk/emmerdal...doctor-bailey/

If I was the actress that plays Belle and I was pitched this storyline, I would've told them where to shove it ”

BIB: Telling your boss where to shove it is not a good thing if you don’t want to lose your job. I agree it’s a bad storyline though.
Andybear
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Ben96:
“Belle & Doctor Bailey, is the worst storyline in Emmerdale during Kate Oates Time? Firstly, another affair, really Emmerdale? Secondly, as if Belle would do this to someone (Angie I mean) after seeing what her dad did to her mum. How can she still be angry with Zak, when she's now just as bad as him?
The only way this storyline can be saved is it transpires that Belle is suffering from some form of mental health problem again following her mum and dad splitting, which is causing her to have this affair, but I seriously doubt it.

I don't usually complain, and Emmerdale has some great sotrylines atm (Ashley's Dementia for e.g) , but this is just awful isn't it?

Here's the latest serving of crap this storyline has to offer
http://www.soapsquawk.co.uk/emmerdal...doctor-bailey/

If I was the actress that plays Belle and I was pitched this storyline, I would've told them where to shove it ”

BIB: Telling your boss where to shove it is not a good thing if you don’t want to lose your job - which is after all what acting is, a job. I agree it’s a bad storyline though.
mrs.deschanel
23-05-2016
It's a very uncomfortable, unbelievable storyline but quite clever (or it would be if it worked). Vanessa was 38 when she started sleeping with 17 year old Kirin. She didn't know he was a schoolboy. Dr Bailey is in his 30s and was under the impression Belle was a Uni student so maybe 19 or 20. He didn't know she was a patient either. The only difference is that he's married. You could argue he's in a position of responsibility too although he didn't know her full name or that she was mentally unstable. Vanessa carried on with Kirin even when she knew he was little more than a child. Dr Bailey is carrying on too but has the added issue of her being a patient. Not many people reacted with so much disgust with Vanessa and Kirin so it does show some double standards. Still it's revolting and I hope it hurries up and ends - Belle is a child and it's not nice.
Ben96
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“BIB: Telling your boss where to shove it is not a good thing if you don’t want to lose your job - which is after all what acting is, a job. I agree it’s a bad storyline though.”

Well, no, obviously it was a joke What I meant was If I was her and pitched the storyline I would have said that I disagreed with it / didn't like it, and would've also questioned whether Belle would do something like that after seeing the suffering her mum went through, I agree literally telling your boss where to shove it wouldn't be the best of ideas
Ben96
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by mrs.deschanel:
“It's a very uncomfortable, unbelievable storyline but quite clever (or it would be if it worked). Vanessa was 38 when she started sleeping with 17 year old Kirin. She didn't know he was a schoolboy. Dr Bailey is in his 30s and was under the impression Belle was a Uni student so maybe 19 or 20. He didn't know she was a patient either. The only difference is that he's married. You could argue he's in a position of responsibility too although he didn't know her full name or that she was mentally unstable. Vanessa carried on with Kirin even when she knew he was little more than a child. Dr Bailey is carrying on too but has the added issue of her being a patient. Not many people reacted with so much disgust with Vanessa and Kirin so it does show some double standards. Still it's revolting and I hope it hurries up and ends - Belle is a child and it's not nice.”

My issues are nothing to do with the age thing or it being disgusting , If you look back to my original post this is not my problem with the storyline, these are my two main issues

1) It's dull - After all, it's another affair storyline, enough said.
2) As I've said lots on this thread already, Belle wouldn't so that same thing as Zak, she saw how upset her mum was, It makes her just as bad as him.
mrs.deschanel
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Ben96:
“My issues are nothing to do with the age thing or it being disgusting , If you look back to my original post this is not my problem with the storyline, these are my two main issues

1) It's dull - After all, it's another affair storyline, enough said.
2) As I've said lots on this thread already, Belle wouldn't so that same thing as Zak, she saw how upset her mum was, It makes her just as bad as him.”

Mine are - I find the whole adult/barely legal thing utterly rancid.

Affairs are boring and a cop out when there's nothing much else to write.

Belle was lashing out and being spiteful - I think because she felt like she was in control and was manipulating the situation. She's on Risperidone I believe still for her mental condition - it should be calming her anxiety but maybe it's too low a dose when she was so furious with Zak and an emotional wreck. I've seen someone with mental issues do something similar - attention seek, play dangerous games and be in control. Belle was pulling all the strings. I don't think she cares one bit about what she's putting his wife through and that its all about the control. She couldn't control her Dad/Mum\Joanie situation and it's probably set her recovery back so now she's controlling someone else using sex. I don't think it's as simple as her being the same as Zak. I think there are more deeply rooted issues to do with her mental state. The best way to end the affair would be for her to have a breakdown and be treated properly again whether it's with meds or CBT or something similar. It's more likely that Cain will go in fists flying as usual.
Ben96
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by mrs.deschanel:
“Mine are - I find the whole adult/barely legal thing utterly rancid.

Affairs are boring and a cop out when there's nothing much else to write.

Belle was lashing out and being spiteful - I think because she felt like she was in control and was manipulating the situation. She's on Risperidone I believe still for her mental condition - it should be calming her anxiety but maybe it's too low a dose when she was so furious with Zak and an emotional wreck. I've seen someone with mental issues do something similar - attention seek, play dangerous games and be in control. Belle was pulling all the strings. I don't think she cares one bit about what she's putting his wife through and that its all about the control. She couldn't control her Dad/Mum\Joanie situation and it's probably set her recovery back so now she's controlling someone else using sex. I don't think it's as simple as her being the same as Zak. I think there are more deeply rooted issues to do with her mental state. The best way to end the affair would be for her to have a breakdown and be treated properly again whether it's with meds or CBT or something similar. It's more likely that Cain will go in fists flying as usual.”

Thank you for your thought provoking post, I'd not thought about it in that much detail before
mrs.deschanel
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Ben96:
“Thank you for your thought provoking post, I'd not thought about it in that much detail before ”

I think it's probably written as being basic and I'm reading to much into it
Ben96
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by mrs.deschanel:
“I think it's probably written as being basic and I'm reading to much into it ”

Probably , your ideas are far too intelligent for the Emmerdale storylining team to think of
On a serious note though, I think it would be interesting to see the storyline to go down this route.
mrs.deschanel
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Ben96:
“Probably , your ideas are far too intelligent for the Emmerdale storylining team to think of
On a serious note though, I think it would be interesting to see the storyline to go down this route.”

Children/adolescents from broken homes are 5 times more likely to suffer from mental problems. I've seen one develop food issues and one start drinking and having sex at 12. The 12 year old was seeking attention and love in the wrong places and is now pregnant. Belle was already suffering after being responsible for her friend's death. I think it would be an interesting route too instead of yet another tedious affair.

http://www.children-and-divorce.com/...y-divorce.html
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