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When will we know The Doctor of series 11?
Just pondering on the question of when we will know the person playing The Doctor in series 11, whether it be Capaldi still or someone new.
The way I see it there are a few elements that may make the release of the information come sooner or later, as follows:- Firstly, the end of series 10 filming. If it is to be a new person for series 11, a regeneration filmed at the end of series 10, and Capaldi needed for no more filming, then they will almost certainly announce Capaldi's departure from the role before they even get that far with filming, which would suggest that if that were the case we would hear the news of Capaldi's departure in a matter of months. If there is no news or rumours of a regeneration and no official announcements on the subject by the end of series 10, then that would only tell us that Capaldi must be carrying on until at least the 2017 Christmas special, and would still not indicate either way whether he would be staying on for series 11, or whether he was just regenerating in the 2017 Christmas special itself. In that scenario, given that back in the old day's of a spring series, the Christmas special was always filmed around summer, that would indicate that the 2017 Christmas special would not need filming until the summer of 2017, and as such in that scenario they could leave it as late as early 2017 to announce the new person if there was to be one (though I would suspect the would have announced Capaldi's departure quite some time before that), or similarly keep the secret of Capaldi staying on to keep people talking about the show. Then we have to consider past form - On the last two occasions, the new doctor was announced a year before there first full series, meaning that if there were a new person, I would think we would hear, at the latest, some time around the airing of series 10 (possibly before the start of series 10, to get people talking, and so it could be marketed as 'Capaldi's final series' in a bid to make it seem more special and boost ratings). So, to conclude my own ramblings, from what there is to deduce, it seems to me that the revealing of the actor to star in series 11, whether that be Capaldi or someone new, could come as early as sometime before the end of the year, or as late as spring of next year, as far as I can tell. If Capaldi is indeed leaving though, I would, taking an educated guess, think that we would at least know that part of the information (if not the new actor) before the end of this year. So those are my thoughts, musings, and logic on the subject. Anyone care to take a guess or come to a conclusion about when they think we might find out?. |
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Just pondering on the question of when we will know the person playing The Doctor in series 11, whether it be Capaldi still or someone new.
The way I see it there are a few elements that may make the release of the information come sooner or later, as follows:- Firstly, the end of series 10 filming. If it is to be a new person for series 11, a regeneration filmed at the end of series 10, and Capaldi needed for no more filming, then they will almost certainly announce Capaldi's departure from the role before they even get that far with filming, which would suggest that if that were the case we would hear the news of Capaldi's departure in a matter of months. If there is no news or rumours of a regeneration and no official announcements on the subject by the end of series 10, then that would only tell us that Capaldi must be carrying on until at least the 2017 Christmas special, and would still not indicate either way whether he would be staying on for series 11, or whether he was just regenerating in the 2017 Christmas special itself. In that scenario, given that back in the old day's of a spring series, the Christmas special was always filmed around summer, that would indicate that the 2017 Christmas special would not need filming until the summer of 2017, and as such in that scenario they could leave it as late as early 2017 to announce the new person if there was to be one (though I would suspect the would have announced Capaldi's departure quite some time before that), or similarly keep the secret of Capaldi staying on to keep people talking about the show. Then we have to consider past form - On the last two occasions, the new doctor was announced a year before there first full series, meaning that if there were a new person, I would think we would hear, at the latest, some time around the airing of series 10 (possibly before the start of series 10, to get people talking, and so it could be marketed as 'Capaldi's final series' in a bid to make it seem more special and boost ratings). So, to conclude my own ramblings, from what there is to deduce, it seems to me that the revealing of the actor to star in series 11, whether that be Capaldi or someone new, could come as early as sometime before the end of the year, or as late as spring of next year, as far as I can tell. If Capaldi is indeed leaving though, I would, taking an educated guess, think that we would at least know that part of the information (if not the new actor) before the end of this year. So those are my thoughts, musings, and logic on the subject. Anyone care to take a guess or come to a conclusion about when they think we might find out?. The BBC has proven quite bad at micromanaging expectation and hype and maybe it is time to ditch the old tricks and try actual showmanship and balls. Stop start drip feed stuff feeds people who will watch anyway. One off bold unexpected moves make the show at least a smidge more exciting to people who will notice a one off unexpected move. That is how yiu get people talking. The usual approach is duller than dull to the power of dull. A studio audience with paid rent a gob microcelebrities babbling about loving the show followed by a few minutes of embarrased/terrified actor footage is lame. |
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If we don't know about Peter's decision regarding series 11 this year, then it''ll be guaranteed that next year we'll find out.
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If Capaldi regenerates in the season finale, then we will know in a few months.
If christmas special summer next year. If he stays then after the show has aired all episodes. |
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This whole discussion seems rather premature and pointless to me. It's pure speculation at this point and it's not as if we could change anything.
We're all craving news just now, but this is about something that may or may not happen and is well over a year from now! It feels like "Lets just get Moffat out of way and get on with the good stuff". Most of us don't hate Moffat. I would be happy for Peter Capaldi to stay on. |
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I wonder if they might film the 2017 Christmas episode as part of the S10 schedule - it would surely make more sense than Moff and his team coming back a year or so later to film one more episode.
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They could regenerate the Doctor in the season 10 finale and keep it a secret. It's only one scene after all and they won't start filming the Christmas special until after the finale has been broadcast. So technically it would be possible. The question is would they want to? A regeneration does bring in additional viewers. My greatest fear would be they set it up as a regeneration with a new Doctor coming in for Season 11 - and then it doesn't happen. A bit like when Clara ended up staying at the end of Last Christmas. NNOOOOO!!!!
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They could regenerate the Doctor in the season 10 finale and keep it a secret. It's only one scene after all and they won't start filming the Christmas special until after the finale has been broadcast. So technically it would be possible. The question is would they want to? A regeneration does bring in additional viewers. My greatest fear would be they set it up as a regeneration with a new Doctor coming in for Season 11 - and then it doesn't happen. A bit like when Clara ended up staying at the end of Last Christmas. NNOOOOO!!!!
![]() As for a "secret" regeneration, it kind of robs Peter Capaldi of a proper departure. I know certain fans have false memories of previous regenerations being kept secret, but that simply never happened. Not once. Not even for Hartnell/Troughton. Besides which, in this age when scripts and even whole episodes get leaked online, keeping something that huge a secret would be almost impossible. |
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Personally, I would keep any announcement under wraps, and two weeks before the end of series ten announce Capadli's goodbyes to to the show. Say NOTHING about the identity of the new actor and let two weeks of unfed Frenzy transpire about no revelation until the actual regeneration actually airs. Then there is a head of steam of interest built up to sustain itself during the build up to S11.
The BBC has proven quite bad at micromanaging expectation and hype and maybe it is time to ditch the old tricks and try actual showmanship and balls. Stop start drip feed stuff feeds people who will watch anyway. One off bold unexpected moves make the show at least a smidge more exciting to people who will notice a one off unexpected move. That is how yiu get people talking. The usual approach is duller than dull to the power of dull. A studio audience with paid rent a gob microcelebrities babbling about loving the show followed by a few minutes of embarrased/terrified actor footage is lame. Quote:
This whole discussion seems rather premature and pointless to me. It's pure speculation at this point and it's not as if we could change anything.
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We're all craving news just now, but this is about something that may or may not happen and is well over a year from now! It feels like "Lets just get Moffat out of way and get on with the good stuff". Most of us don't hate Moffat.
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They could regenerate the Doctor in the season 10 finale and keep it a secret. It's only one scene after all and they won't start filming the Christmas special until after the finale has been broadcast. So technically it would be possible. The question is would they want to? A regeneration does bring in additional viewers. My greatest fear would be they set it up as a regeneration with a new Doctor coming in for Season 11 - and then it doesn't happen. A bit like when Clara ended up staying at the end of Last Christmas. NNOOOOO!!!!
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I wonder if they might film the 2017 Christmas episode as part of the S10 schedule - it would surely make more sense than Moff and his team coming back a year or so later to film one more episode.
I know the original announcement didn't say one way or the other. But yeah If it is still Moff and Capaldi then it's likely they will film it just after Series 10 rather than at the start of Series 11 Production. IIRC there was at least one other time where a production run started off with a Christmas Special and also finished with one. I wonder when Chibnall will officially start working on the show? Moffat actually cast Matt Smith in November/December 2008 so presumably Chibnall will be on the same sort of schedule and will be writing (and possibly casting a Doctor) by December this year. |
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Has it been confirmed that Moff is doing the 2017 Christmas Special I can't recall.
I know the original announcement didn't say one way or the other. But yeah If it is still Moff and Capaldi then it's likely they will film it just after Series 10 rather than at the start of Series 11 Production. IIRC there was at least one other time where a production run started off with a Christmas Special and also finished with one. I wonder when Chibnall will officially start working on the show? Moffat actually cast Matt Smith in November/December 2008 so presumably Chibnall will be on the same sort of schedule and will be writing (and possibly casting a Doctor) by December this year. According to the following: http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...istmas-special The Christmas 2017 Episode will be Steven's final Doctor Who Story before Chris takes over. |
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Don't you think it would be great if there was no announcement!!
Most DW episodes revolve around someone trying to kill the Doctor so just imagine watching the show live on a Saturday evening at some random time between 5 and 9 pm. Part way throught the episode the (PC) Doctor is some form af mild peril and is then surprisingly killed and regenerates. I would love for the BBC to have the balls to pull that off without the mass press events, the TV special to announce the new actor. |
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Be interesting if he did suddenly leave mid way through a series episode.
However I think it will have to be planned and announced before they film it. Christmas 2017 seems a good time for a great two parter second part airing New Years Day 2018. Give PC a fitting exit. ![]() Predict Bill will stay for the 13th doctor and series 11. Would also not be surprised if Missy shows up and is involved in 12s final adventure.
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According to the following:
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...istmas-special The Christmas 2017 Episode will be Steven's final Doctor Who Story before Chris takes over. |
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According to the following:
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...istmas-special The Christmas 2017 Episode will be Steven's final Doctor Who Story before Chris takes over. 1/ David Tennant and Russell T Davies both left at the same time 2/ Their finale was a Christmas special (a two parter, granted, which concluded at New Year) 3/ The preceding season (season 4) included a one-season only companion 4/ The new Doctor was younger than the outgoing Doctor 5/ The new season's opening episode introduced a new companion, new opening credits and theme tune arrangement - and a new look for the TARDIS (inside and out)! |
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They could regenerate the Doctor in the season 10 finale and keep it a secret. It's only one scene after all and they won't start filming the Christmas special until after the finale has been broadcast. So technically it would be possible. The question is would they want to? A regeneration does bring in additional viewers. My greatest fear would be they set it up as a regeneration with a new Doctor coming in for Season 11 - and then it doesn't happen. A bit like when Clara ended up staying at the end of Last Christmas. NNOOOOO!!!!
![]() Imagine the hype and the amount of viewers who would tune in! And with the new actor only needing to film one scene on a closed set, they could pull it off... |
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Hopefully, we already know him because he's the one we've got now.
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They could easily pull off a secret regeneration if they wanted, but the publicity drive for introducing a new Doctor is just too useful to turn down. The show thrives on change, and the new viewers it brings.
The closest we ever got to it being kept under wraps was Eccleston/Tennant, but the BBC blew it...for good or ill. |
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I'm one of (I assume) the minority on here who thinks Capaldi needs to go at the end of season 10.
The one thing that would really upset me is if the Who team pretended there might be a regeneration at the end of the 2017 Christmas special only for it not to happen. I would rather just know for sure if he's staying, so I don't have another Christmas spoiled like when Clara stayed. |
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Hopefully, we already know him because he's the one we've got now.
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I'm one of (I assume) the minority on here who thinks Capaldi needs to go at the end of season 10.
The one thing that would really upset me is if the Who team pretended there might be a regeneration at the end of the 2017 Christmas special only for it not to happen. I would rather just know for sure if he's staying, so I don't have another Christmas spoiled like when Clara stayed. Also, yes, I liked Last Christmas, but the worst part was making us believe that we were rid of Clara and then it not being true. They had to change her so much from series 8 to series 9 to make her resemble someone likable, that she was practically a different person anyway, so her staying seemed all the more pointless, |
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Even if that's the case, it would be interesting to see when it is confirmed.
Well firstly, I'd say opinion is pretty divided on the whole Capaldi should he stay/should he go issue. I for one would agree with you that he should go at the end of series 10. Not because of his acting exactly, but because the show is never going to bring in a new audience/bring back people who stopped watching under Moffat when they see the same face they associate with the Moffat era. They'll just think same old, same old, before they even get chance to see Chibnall's vision of the show in action. Also, yes, I liked Last Christmas, but the worst part was making us believe that we were rid of Clara and then it not being true. They had to change her so much from series 8 to series 9 to make her resemble someone likable, that she was practically a different person anyway, so her staying seemed all the more pointless, ![]() http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2131741 Of course that only applies to us lot and I've no idea how much the views of DS members tally with those of the general audience. |
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It seems like there's going to be a few vacancies coming up in the next couple of years:
New Doctor New Bond New UK Prime Minister New USA President I have it on good authority that the successors for each role will be announced simultaneously, with some sort of power sharing arrangement agreed so that they can all swop jobs with each other every 4 years or so. Personally I cannot wait for Trump's take on playing the Doctor.
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I think they've missed a trick in the past by giving away the new Doctor's identity before the regeneration happens on screen. Obviously, filming schedules make this difficult, but presumably this time they could pull it off. They could still publicise the regeneration itself - Capaldi's final story etc. but with the added excitement that the new Doctor won't be revealed until the regeneration happens.
Imagine the hype and the amount of viewers who would tune in! And with the new actor only needing to film one scene on a closed set, they could pull it off... Besides which, if we're looking at the same time scale, the Spring 2018 series will begin shooting before the Christmas 2017 episode is aired. Unless you want yet another hiatus? |
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I'd like to see Capaldi have a regeneration go wrong in the vicinity of Missy. Have them both regenerate at the same time. With The Master regenerating into Capaldi and Capaldu regenerating into someone new. But preferably not for a few years yet!
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I'd like to see Capaldi have a regeneration go wrong in the vicinity of Missy. Have them both regenerate at the same time. With The Master regenerating into Capaldi and Capaldu regenerating into someone new. But preferably not for a few years yet!
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