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Old 23-05-2016, 21:49
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Two episodes have aired so far and it's safe to say that we've seen nothing special, apart from Carla and Cathy's conversation in last night's offering. Tracy locked in a cupboard, Carla looking perpetually anxious, wedding flowers being sabotaged, Fiz's frock greeting dirty...yeah, riveting stuff. BGT week used to be something to look forward to on Corrie, but the last couple of years really haven't cut the mustard in terms of quality. We are seeing nothing out of the ordinary or different- not even an interesting camera shot for a change. Given that one of the show's best loved actresses is bowing out at the end of the week, this really hasn't been a promising start. I couldn't give two figs about the wedding because we've all known for months what the outcome will be. We can only hope that things pick up when Callum's body is uncovered. Damp squib.
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Old 23-05-2016, 21:52
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I agree. Guh. It's something to do with the execution which is just bland bland bland!

Why couldn't they weave the stories a bit more - something happening at the Platt house NOW so we are anticipating the Callum reveal? They've totally separated the stories into two halves. The drama will be coming after the 'reveal' yet by the looks of it we're not going to see the reveal until the last moments of tomorrow's show, meaning they've dragged out 3 episodes of nothing and not got enough time for the fallout.

PLUS, Friday's episode looks like it's set during the day which is baffling considering they were meant to have done all these night shoots. The whole thing stinks so far, I'm hoping Wed/Thu episodes are strong but I imagine tomorrow and Friday will be duds.

Can't wait for Kate Oates work to start playing out, if there's one thing she knows it's how to bring a story to a satisfying and dramatic climax. I'm pissed for Alison King to be honest. I think I'll have a party when her name appears on the credits.
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Old 23-05-2016, 21:54
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Corrie being disappointing just for a change
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Old 23-05-2016, 21:56
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The pacing really has been terrible. Episode Three tomorrow and TracyLuv will still be in that cupboard. Alison King deserves so much more than this being her swansong week. It's painful to see how much damage Blackburn has done to the show. Also, were we not told that Maria was to be heavily involved with Nick and Carla's wedding?
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:02
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It surely isn't even the writers' fault? I'm guessing the writers are given a list of characters they can work with in an episode and the fault lies with the person responsible for booking the right characters for filming blocks?

You know I would love to just be able to become invisible and just watch them creating this show; to see who is really at fault.

I cannot believe it is the writers, many of them have written for golden periods. I don't know where it goes wrong or whose fault it is!?!?
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:02
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It surely isn't even the writers' fault? I'm guessing the writers are given a list of characters they can work with in an episode and the fault lies with the person responsible for booking the right characters for filming blocks?
Many of the writers are dire imo.
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:07
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Many of the writers are dire imo.
I don't think so.

If they haven't got a good outline to work with, they have to basically write filler. If they have a good outline, they usually deliver.
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:10
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A lot of the good writers have left.

They really need Daran Little back. He'd be ideal as the producer at this point, rather than just a writer.

I don't have high hopes for Kate Oates. Her last year on Emmerdale has left a lot to be desired and she is all about what looks good over substance. And sensationalism and affairs.
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:12
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BGT week and NTA week have been, in recent years, the only time Corrie puts any effort in but the last couple and now this have been lacklustre.

EE is outshining it with some proper drama.
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:12
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Oates should be doing all in her power to get Daran Little back on Corrie. He's an exceptional talent.
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:13
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A lot of the good writers have left.

They really need Daran Little back. He'd be ideal as the producer at this point, rather than just a writer.

I don't have high hopes for Kate Oates. Her last year on Emmerdale has left a lot to be desired and she is all about what looks good over substance. And sensationalism and affairs.
Kate Oates still nails character interaction, keeps community and comedy feel but also delivers really strong dramatic scenes. From what I gather she is a very astute and intuitive producer who makes the most of all the actors. No one is universally loved but I think her work has been enjoyed by a majority, IMO.

For a fact, if she had helmed the scenes we saw on CS tonight, they would have felt more impactful, more end-of-an-era like for Carla, and the cast would have been used better. She is, basically, better at storylining things and knows what plot climaxes require to be satisfying.

She will definitely do a good job on CS, I can see it having its best period for at least 6 years, if not since 2004-5 when she finally gets her stuff on screen.
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:13
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Oates should be doing all in her power to get Daran Little back on Corrie. He's an exceptional talent.
Daran is brilliant at writing for EE. I don't want him to leave there
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:15
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There is far too much deadwood on Corrie. Clearing out 80% of the cast would be no bad thing. Characters are exhausted, its time for fresh blood.
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:15
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Eastenders alot better tonight. Corrie is awful
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:15
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The buck stops at the producer. Stuart Blackburn has shown time and time again he lacks the vision and intuition required to ensure things are storylined properly.
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:16
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The buck stops at the producer. Stuart Blackburn has shown time and time again he lacks the vision and intuition required to ensure things are storylined properly.
Yes you're totally spot on there.
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:17
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There is far too much deadwood on Corrie. Clearing out
80% of the cast would be no bad thing. Characters are exhausted, its time for fresh blood.
No, no, no.

Characters are going in circles due to poor vision by the producer. A good producer can find creative ways to make nearly all characters work. The only characters Blackburn has done well with are Sally and Tim, and even that I think was a total fluke.

A good producer can use the existing characters in new ways. New environments. Shake up the character groups. Mix the groups differently. Find better dynamics between them. Strengthen families with strong stories, written and played well. The Nazirs for example could be great with a proper SL - Yasmeen's come into her own lately in spite of crap material. Her scene with Leanne was great as was her one with Tracy on the street.

But Blackburn's failed unceremoniously at making the best of nearly EVERY character on this show. He really is a very unskilled, borderline delusionally stupid producer.
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:21
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Does Tracey have to be at the centre and spoil every event in Corrie. It would have been great if Carla had stood up to her before she went.
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:22
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For those that didn't catch Ian Hyland's wonderful piece in the Mirror today:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjKO6n7XIAADVpE.jpg:large

The bosses and storyliners have had the best part of a year to plan for BGT week, and the best they've come up with is Carla and Nick's wedding. I can't think of two characters more insipid! Frankly can't wait until Carla clears off, she's been at the centre of everything. Wedding day failures, cheated on, gambling and red wine addictions, near-death experiences, revelations.............now being pressured by Tracy! Seriously, how much heartache can one person take? Blackburn has butchered a once brilliant character.

Who the hell cares about Callum anymore? The fact it was originally intended to be a two/three-year storyline makes me depressed. Two weeks of Sarah going mad about a secret is bad enough, let alone two years!!

Don't get me started on Tracy. She can't be redeemed. They had their chance with Deirdre's send off, the silly scriptwriters failed to take it.

The dialogue is standard, but it's contrived nonsense that always lets you down. They are terrible with continuity, the scripts are so inconsistent (you can tell a Jonathan Harvey episode from a Simon whatsit from a mile off), it's all plot-driven and very little about the characters.

EE has been fantastic the last few weeks............they have decent writers, but what sets them apart from Corrie is they know how to plan a storyline.

Bring in fresh new writers. Shake up the cast. Cut back on episodes. Stop holding on to the past, and drag the soap into the 21st century.
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:23
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Oates should be doing all in her power to get Daran Little back on Corrie. He's an exceptional talent.
He is and he knows the street inside out. If anyone can turn it around it's him.

I think Kate Oates will do a decent job at papering over the cracks ala Collinson but I don't expect her to actually address the rot. I hope I'm wrong but so much of Corrie is off-limits and there's only so much she or anyone can do with what's left. The show needs another Brian Park - a maverick boss who's going to make some tough decisions - but I don't think that would be allowed now. Even Daran might not be much use without a free rein.

I have a hunch Daran left Corrie under a cloud. As KK often says, he lived and breathed the show and his sudden exit after decades along with how long he's been away gives the impression all was not well.
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:27
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For those that didn't catch Ian Hyland's wonderful piece in the Mirror today:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjKO6n7XIAADVpE.jpg:large

The bosses and storyliners have had the best part of a year to plan for BGT week, and the best they've come up with is Carla and Nick's wedding. I can't think of two characters more insipid! Frankly can't wait until Carla clears off, she's been at the centre of everything. Wedding day failures, cheated on, gambling and red wine addictions, near-death experiences, revelations.............now being pressured by Tracy! Seriously, how much heartache can one person take? Blackburn has butchered a once brilliant character.

Who the hell cares about Callum anymore? The fact it was originally intended to be a two/three-year storyline makes me depressed. Two weeks of Sarah going mad about a secret is bad enough, let alone two years!!

Don't get me started on Tracy. She can't be redeemed. They had their chance with Deirdre's send off, the silly scriptwriters failed to take it.

The dialogue is standard, but it's contrived nonsense that always lets you down. They are terrible with continuity, the scripts are so inconsistent (you can tell a Jonathan Harvey episode from a Simon whatsit from a mile off), it's all plot-driven and very little about the characters.

EE has been fantastic the last few weeks............they have decent writers, but what sets them apart from Corrie is they know how to plan a storyline.

Bring in fresh new writers. Shake up the cast. Cut back on episodes. Stop holding on to the past, and drag the soap into the 21st century.
It's rare the critics point out where Corrie is falling short. Especially whilst giving EE due credit in the same article.

Hyland also did a piece yesterday along similar lines http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/e...n-come-8028362

Edit: Just realised it's the same article. I actually thought part of your post was quoting Ian.
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:28
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Tracy needs an almerciful downfall. She cares little for anyone around her, with the exception of Amy and, to a lesser extent, Ken. There have been a couple of times where we saw her get her just desserts: being found guilty of murder and Becky ruining her wedding day to Steve. But as we've seen, she's come back around quicker than a boomerang. Yes, her health suffers a setback in upcoming episodes with few caring, but that won't be maintained.
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:29
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There is far too much deadwood on Corrie. Clearing out 80% of the cast would be no bad thing. Characters are exhausted, its time for fresh blood.
Sorry but imo that's the very last thing Corrie needs!!
The characters that are there need to be given back their identity, their history and their 'character!!'
Bringing in endless 'fresh blood' & new characters we neither know nor care about has been the Blackburn way & look where it has got us!!!!!
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:29
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It feels very soap-by-numbers.

No snap, crackle and pop.
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Old 23-05-2016, 22:30
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Sorry but imo that's the very last thing Corrie needs!!
The characters that are there need to be given back their identity, their history and their 'character!!'
Bringing in endless 'fresh blood' & new characters we neither know nor care about has been the Blackburn way & look where it has got us!!!!!
What can be done with the likes of Fiz and Sean though? I honestly can't think of anything that would make them even watchable at this point.
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