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Old 24-05-2016, 08:00
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The 2016-17 Premier League season commences on August 13. The new three year TV deal begins this season with the following packages:

Package A: 28 at Sat 12.30pm Sky
- 6 1st picks
- 14 2nd picks
- 8 5th picks

Package B: 28 at Sat 5.30pm BT
- 9 1st picks
- 12 3rd picks
- 7 5th picks

Package C: 28 at Sun 1.30pm/2.15pm Sky
- 15 2nd picks
- 6 4th picks
- 7 5th picks

Package D: 28 at Sun 4pm/4.30pm Sky
- 18 1st picks
- 10 4th picks

Package E: 28 at Mon 8pm (min 18) or Fri 7.30pm/8pm (max 10) Sky
- 15 3rd picks
- 13 4th picks

Package F: 6 midweek; 8 at Sat 12.30pm or Sat 5.30pm or Sun 12pm BT
- 3 1st picks
- 7 2nd picks
- 4 4th picks

Package G: 8 Bank Hols; 6 at Sun 1.30pm/2.15pm or Sun 4pm/4.30pm Sky
- 2 1st picks
- 2 2nd picks
- 8 3rd picks
- 2 4th picks

Club Quotas (in alphabetical package order):
Maximum: 5, 5, 5, 5, 4, 3, 2 (Total = 29)
Minimum: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0 (Total = 5)

Pick Totals:
- 38 1st picks
- 38 2nd picks
- 35 3rd picks
- 35 4th picks
- 22 5th picks

For anyone interested, here is an assessment of how I think last seasons picks might have played out under the new system.
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Old 24-05-2016, 08:03
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If mourinho joins man utd, then I think sky use a first pick on first weekend.

They must be hoping that first two weeks gives them 2 massive clashes, so they get both mourinho games (first home, first away). I think they only pass second week if it's away and not a big game

I reckon sky might be able to get picks 1 to 4 on opening weekend.

That could cover Manu, Manc, Leicester and west ham.
It will be interesting to see what Sky do with the first week. If there are no obvious big head to heads in Week 1, I suspect Sky will pass first pick. Perhaps BT would use one of their nine to get Mourinho's first game in charge of Man Utd, but I doubt it and as such I can see Sky getting first pick back.
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Old 24-05-2016, 08:14
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*Insert generic whinge about how long they're taking over announcing the live TV games and how much train ticket prices are going up*
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Old 24-05-2016, 08:18
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First week is tough especially if West Ham are at home. Plus Jose, Pep & Antonio's first game plus Leicester as champions.
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Old 24-05-2016, 08:26
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I personally don't see why it's so important to show a manager's first game in charge, but I accept it's the sort of narrative that Sky like to use. So with that in mind, I wonder if they might be tempted to show five games in Week 1 and thus we could open the season with six games:

Fri 20:00
Sat 12:45
Sat 17:30 (BT)
Sun 13:30
Sun 16:00
Mon 20:00

In such a scenario, either the Monday or Friday game would be a sixth pick.
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Old 24-05-2016, 08:49
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They also do tend to like to show a promoted side. With Leicester shaking up the apple cart the current broadcast model isn't really built for 5/6 potential title winners!
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Old 24-05-2016, 11:20
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It will be interesting to see what Sky do with the first week. If there are no obvious big head to heads in Week 1, I suspect Sky will pass first pick. Perhaps BT would use one of their nine to get Mourinho's first game in charge of Man Utd, but I doubt it and as such I can see Sky getting first pick back.[/quote]

Disagree. I think sky will show it. If they didn't then bt definitely would.

I think sky just show four games, don't think Fri and Mon will be used. Sky have football league to show
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Old 24-05-2016, 11:50
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That's a good point about Sky's Football League games - I suspect they'll go for a Monday night PL game in Week 1.

Personally I don't think BT would waste a first pick on Man Utd v a middle ranking team just because of Mourinho. But I agree that Sky might not take the risk. In which case BT will be hoping for no big head to heads in Week 1 as this would effectively be Sky wasting one of its 18 (controllable) first picks.
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Old 24-05-2016, 12:00
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I personally don't see why it's so important to show a manager's first game in charge, but I accept it's the sort of narrative that Sky like to use. So with that in mind, I wonder if they might be tempted to show five games in Week 1 and thus we could open the season with six games:

Fri 20:00n
Sat 12:45
Sat 17:30 (BT)
Sun 13:30
Sun 16:00
Mon 20:00

In such a scenario, either the Monday or Friday game would be a sixth pick.
*** And Also for the 1st time in sky's history they have 3pm sat football games in IRELAND as of next session. (Provious held by setanta sports) ***
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Old 24-05-2016, 12:54
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Awaiting the inevitable post from wolvesdavid that it's pointless starting the thread this early.........
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Old 24-05-2016, 18:37
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What games are we expecting to be classed as BH games then?

I expect the first Bank Holiday games will certainly be played on December 26th (Monday) as it's Boxing Day so there will be a full load of games that day, I'm not sure about the second BH games though.. I wonder if they will play on New Year's Day (Sunday) with 1-3 games being played on the Monday/Tuesday for Tuesday. More importantly will the blackout still apply for these weekends?
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Old 24-05-2016, 18:48
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What games are we expecting to be classed as BH games then?

I expect the first Bank Holiday games will certainly be played on December 26th (Monday) as it's Boxing Day so there will be a full load of games that day, I'm not sure about the second BH games though.. I wonder if they will play on New Year's Day (Sunday) with 1-3 games being played on the Monday/Tuesday for Tuesday. More importantly will the blackout still apply for these weekends?
Why more importantly?

The closed window is for Saturday afternoons. If games are played on any other day then the restrictions do not apply. This doesn't change a thing to how the upcoming contract will work.
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Old 24-05-2016, 18:53
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Why more importantly?

The closed window is for Saturday afternoons. If games are played on any other day then the restrictions do not apply. This doesn't change a thing to how the upcoming contract will work.
There was BH games on Monday 28th December last year yet the blackout still applied.
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Old 24-05-2016, 19:17
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In 2011-12 - the last time Christmas was a Sunday - fixtures were played as follows:

Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday (20/21/22 December)
Monday/Tuesday (26/27 December)
Friday/Saturday/Sunday (30/31/1 December/January)
Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday (2/3/4 January)

So if the same format was repeated this time then it would be midweek, bank holiday, weekend, bank holiday. BT will benefit from being able to - if they wish - show a game on the Thursday night of the midweek before Christmas. In theory this will allow Sky to show a game on Monday 19 December.

The one thing that I remember about Christmas 2011-12 was that Liverpool played on Friday 30 December and Man City played on Sunday 1 January. They then met on Tuesday 3 January which seemed unfair on City. So watch out for managers getting upset when the Christmas picks are made!
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Old 24-05-2016, 19:19
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There was BH games on Monday 28th December last year yet the blackout still applied.
That's because there was a full programme of matches from the Championship down to the National League North/South (and possibly even further down).
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Old 24-05-2016, 19:21
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First week is tough especially if West Ham are at home. Plus Jose, Pep & Antonio's first game plus Leicester as champions.
What sky need is west ham v chelsea, Manu v man city and Leicester v spurs opening weekend!

I think sky are actually in easy position this year. Unless it's a big Manu game or other massive game, pass six rounds before cl. Bt will bite at least 4 times as if they don't, sky get best two games.
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Old 24-05-2016, 19:23
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That's because there was a full programme of matches from the Championship down to the National League North/South (and possibly even further down).
Ok thanks.

On the subject of midweek's, with the new contract this year will it be more likely for games to be played Thursday at 7:45pm?
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Old 24-05-2016, 19:30
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I think sky are actually in easy position this year. Unless it's a big Manu game or other massive game, pass six rounds before cl. Bt will bite at least 4 times as if they don't, sky get best two games.
What's so special about rounds before Europe? Ultimately the fixtures will, largely, dictate the picks. The only week that could be tricky for Sky is the first one when they might want secure all the big stories on the opening weekend.

More interesting for me is, will Sky continue with the strategy of giving up big head to heads involving Tottenham to get BT maxed out?
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:19
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I am not even going to attempt to figure out how the picks will work this year....it takes me an average of 3 seasons to fully get them anyway!

Opening weekend will be very interesting. Am sure Sky passed LVGs first MUFC game in charge but I doubt they would pass Jose and United. BT wouldn't be too upset, with so many narratives on the opening weekend, they will end up with a decent game either way, and if Sky pass then will almost certainly go for MUFC.

Sky's strategy is going to very difficult to predict this season - who on earth do they offer as bait for BT to max out on?
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:27
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Whilst Leicester are Champions would they show them on the opening day if they played one of the "lesser/smaller" sides?

Same with West Ham at their new ground?
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Old 24-05-2016, 21:12
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What's so special about rounds before Europe? Ultimately the fixtures will, largely, dictate the picks. The only week that could be tricky for Sky is the first one when they might want secure all the big stories on the opening weekend.

More interesting for me is, will Sky continue with the strategy of giving up big head to heads involving Tottenham to get BT maxed out?
Agree that maxing out a team a big factor.

But let's say a weekend throws up Liverpool v spurs and man city v arsenal pre cl.

With Fri option if sky pass, bt have to bite and take one, or sky get both.

Without Fri bt could pass, knowing sky could only have one

(I appreciate this rule not set in stone and exceptions, but it does seem a convention)
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Old 24-05-2016, 21:33
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There was BH games on Monday 28th December last year yet the blackout still applied.
That's because there was a full programme of matches from the Championship down to the National League North/South (and possibly even further down).
There was no blackout on Monday 28th December. The day and time is constant throughout the season (Saturday, 2.45pm-5.15pm).

However, the fact there was a (nearly) full fixture list throughout England is probably why BT scheduled their games for teatime and evening, instead of 3pm and teatime. But there was nothing official stopping them from doing the latter.
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Old 24-05-2016, 21:50
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*** And Also for the 1st time in sky's history they have 3pm sat football games in IRELAND as of next session. (Provious held by setanta sports) ***
Except that it will be geo-blocked in N. Ireland due to UK blackout. So only in ROI will viewers see these 3pm games live.
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Old 24-05-2016, 22:11
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*** And Also for the 1st time in sky's history they have 3pm sat football games in IRELAND as of next session. (Provious held by setanta sports) ***
I wonder if this will reflect in the commentary assignments. Assume it'll be a world feed comm but one selected by Sky?
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Old 24-05-2016, 22:31
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Why not post the 2017-2018 fixtures thread whilst your at it TLG86?
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