I think sky might show five matches, Fri, 2 on sat and 2 on Sun and even Mon if no league cup following
Edit: league cup follows so I think 5 games
Edit: league cup follows so I think 5 games
2016-17 Premier League TV Fixtures Thread
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Originally Posted by loyalsince:
“I think sky might show five matches, Fri, 2 on sat and 2 on Sun and even Mon if no league cup following
Edit: league cup follows so I think 5 games”
“I think sky might show five matches, Fri, 2 on sat and 2 on Sun and even Mon if no league cup following
Edit: league cup follows so I think 5 games”
Feel free to join in with the Football League TV Thread, Often in recent years, there has been a League Cup tie on the Monday Night shown Live.
I would have thought that the champions would have been picked for tv. But Hull City V leicester city would be classed a nothing game. A getting to know you weekend where the managerial new boys are picked seems likely. IMHAHO
Originally Posted by TLG86:
“Of course it's slightly more complicated with third picks. I think it's most likely that Sky have the right to bypass Package B when BT are using a first pick. That is, they don't have to use a third pick in Package E when Package B has first pick. I suspect Sky won't be able to avoid BT passing third pick to Package G at some point, but I think Sky will want to limit it as much as possible.”
“Of course it's slightly more complicated with third picks. I think it's most likely that Sky have the right to bypass Package B when BT are using a first pick. That is, they don't have to use a third pick in Package E when Package B has first pick. I suspect Sky won't be able to avoid BT passing third pick to Package G at some point, but I think Sky will want to limit it as much as possible.”
Thank you both. Great help.
Originally Posted by leicslad46:
“I would have thought that the champions would have been picked for tv. But Hull City V leicester city would be classed a nothing game. A getting to know you weekend where the managerial new boys are picked seems likely. IMHAHO”
“I would have thought that the champions would have been picked for tv. But Hull City V leicester city would be classed a nothing game. A getting to know you weekend where the managerial new boys are picked seems likely. IMHAHO”
And there lies the issue - it's not a TV-worthy game under normal circumstances. It's got Saturday 3pm written all over it... but the spanner in the works is that Leicester did the unthinkable and made a lot of peoples job harder by playing a blinder and winning the league... I think this will be a season where we don't see the current champions shown on TV much but I still think they will be given the honour of having their campaign kick off live on TV.
Originally Posted by promo-only:
“And there lies the issue - it's not a TV-worthy game under normal circumstances. It's got Saturday 3pm written all over it... but the spanner in the works is that Leicester did the unthinkable and made a lot of peoples job harder by playing a blinder and winning the league... I think this will be a season where we don't see the current champions shown on TV much but I still think they will be given the honour of having their campaign kick off live on TV.”
“And there lies the issue - it's not a TV-worthy game under normal circumstances. It's got Saturday 3pm written all over it... but the spanner in the works is that Leicester did the unthinkable and made a lot of peoples job harder by playing a blinder and winning the league... I think this will be a season where we don't see the current champions shown on TV much but I still think they will be given the honour of having their campaign kick off live on TV.”
I think both Sky and BT will want to get them on early, both to show the due respect that their story deserves, and also because neither will feel Leicester will be competing for the title this season. Hence, Hull v Leicester will be squeezed on to the schedules in W1, and if Sky pass W2 I'd expect BT to take Leicester v Arsenal with a first pick.
The problem for the TV companies is that only one of Leicester's 'big' home games is early in the season. After Arsenal in W2 the next title contenders to turn up are Man City on Dec 10th. It would have been alot easier for Sky stick Leicester on quite alot had they been playing in a lot of big home games with the season still taking shape. And for BT, well they will have all of Leicester's CL games live, so the temptation to give up a 1st pick for a Leicester game will be minimal after W2 as a result.
Okay, so here is my "prediction" for the first 14 weeks of the season:
2016-17 Prediction
One thing occurred to me when I was doing this is that perhaps we should not rule out Sky opening the season with Arsenal v Liverpool. In the end I went for the Sunday 4pm slot, but it wouldn't surprise me if they decided to kick off the season with a big head to head to advertise that Sunday 12:30 is an important slot and you don't want to be out. Furthermore, filling the min quotas in Package D is always a bit awkward as you sort of think a game needs to justify being Sunday 16:00. Hull v Leicester would certainly do that and it would fill the Hull min quota in Package D which could be quite awkward to fill later in the season.
I have Sky giving up second pick in Weeks 2 (Man Utd v Southampton) and 9 (Liverpool v West Brom). I decided to have BT passing first pick in Weeks 2 and 7, but they may opt to take one or both of them. I have BT showing Burnley v Hull as a Package B quota filler in Week 4. As Stoke v Spurs (which I have BT taking as a fourth pick in Package F) has to be played on the Saturday, and as the Saturday 12:30 slot is taken (by Liverpool v Leicester on Sky), I decided to have Burnley v Hull in the Sunday 13:30 slot with just one PL match on Sky (Sunderland v Everton). It will be interesting to see if such a combination comes up this season.
I've mentioned before that Sky have been a bit unlucky in that a number of games that they might like to show are restricted to Friday and Saturday. For Spurs v Leicester in Week 10 and West Ham v Arsenal in Week 14 I decided to have Sky showing these games at Sunday 16:00 with the caveat for them to move to Saturday if needed.
I have Sky using five of their six weekend games in Package G getting games featuring one of Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City and Man Utd in each. Two of these are third picks passed to Sky by BT. Week 7 (Swansea v Liverpool) could be a dodgy one for Sky but I think BT wouldn't take that game as they'd have secured Liverpool v West Brom in Week 9 as a second pick. Week 13 (Burnley v Man City) might also be dodgy, but Sky do have one other week in which to secure another Man City game (or they could show both City bank holiday games).
I have BT maxed out of fourth picks in Package F and have Sky using 10 Package E games - with one fourth pick deferred for later in the season (Week 9). I deferred this week as it was not ideal for a Monday night game (League Cup Fourth Round) and of the 10 games already picked, five are on a Friday night. I reckon that is the absolute maximum Sky will use in the first 14 weeks.
So this would leave BT with 6 first picks, 2 second picks, 10 third picks and 2 fifth picks in the remaining 19 weekend rounds. This looks quite good with no team on more than 2 picks in Package B and only four min quotas to fill. The problem for Sky is that there are weeks when Sky might be happy to give up third pick to BT but they want to get a fourth pick in Package D to fill a quota. It definitely felt harder trying to fill the min quotas efficiently under the new system.
This will probably be miles off, but it's interesting to look at the dynamics of the packages. I get the feeling that we're all going to be quite surprised when the picks are revealed.
2016-17 Prediction
One thing occurred to me when I was doing this is that perhaps we should not rule out Sky opening the season with Arsenal v Liverpool. In the end I went for the Sunday 4pm slot, but it wouldn't surprise me if they decided to kick off the season with a big head to head to advertise that Sunday 12:30 is an important slot and you don't want to be out. Furthermore, filling the min quotas in Package D is always a bit awkward as you sort of think a game needs to justify being Sunday 16:00. Hull v Leicester would certainly do that and it would fill the Hull min quota in Package D which could be quite awkward to fill later in the season.
I have Sky giving up second pick in Weeks 2 (Man Utd v Southampton) and 9 (Liverpool v West Brom). I decided to have BT passing first pick in Weeks 2 and 7, but they may opt to take one or both of them. I have BT showing Burnley v Hull as a Package B quota filler in Week 4. As Stoke v Spurs (which I have BT taking as a fourth pick in Package F) has to be played on the Saturday, and as the Saturday 12:30 slot is taken (by Liverpool v Leicester on Sky), I decided to have Burnley v Hull in the Sunday 13:30 slot with just one PL match on Sky (Sunderland v Everton). It will be interesting to see if such a combination comes up this season.
I've mentioned before that Sky have been a bit unlucky in that a number of games that they might like to show are restricted to Friday and Saturday. For Spurs v Leicester in Week 10 and West Ham v Arsenal in Week 14 I decided to have Sky showing these games at Sunday 16:00 with the caveat for them to move to Saturday if needed.
I have Sky using five of their six weekend games in Package G getting games featuring one of Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City and Man Utd in each. Two of these are third picks passed to Sky by BT. Week 7 (Swansea v Liverpool) could be a dodgy one for Sky but I think BT wouldn't take that game as they'd have secured Liverpool v West Brom in Week 9 as a second pick. Week 13 (Burnley v Man City) might also be dodgy, but Sky do have one other week in which to secure another Man City game (or they could show both City bank holiday games).
I have BT maxed out of fourth picks in Package F and have Sky using 10 Package E games - with one fourth pick deferred for later in the season (Week 9). I deferred this week as it was not ideal for a Monday night game (League Cup Fourth Round) and of the 10 games already picked, five are on a Friday night. I reckon that is the absolute maximum Sky will use in the first 14 weeks.
So this would leave BT with 6 first picks, 2 second picks, 10 third picks and 2 fifth picks in the remaining 19 weekend rounds. This looks quite good with no team on more than 2 picks in Package B and only four min quotas to fill. The problem for Sky is that there are weeks when Sky might be happy to give up third pick to BT but they want to get a fourth pick in Package D to fill a quota. It definitely felt harder trying to fill the min quotas efficiently under the new system.
This will probably be miles off, but it's interesting to look at the dynamics of the packages. I get the feeling that we're all going to be quite surprised when the picks are revealed.
Originally Posted by TLG86:
“Okay, so here is my "prediction" for the first 14 weeks of the season:
2016-17 Prediction”
“Okay, so here is my "prediction" for the first 14 weeks of the season:
2016-17 Prediction”
Presumably the "MinQ" column means all min quotas complied with - and the number is the round this was achieved?
What does the "Shown" column mean?
The min quota is the round in which the quotas for a club were filled. Shown is the first week a team appeared on Sky. I think I had them all on in the first 7 weeks and each team shown at least three times in the first 14 weeks.
Originally Posted by TLG86:
“The min quota is the round in which the quotas for a club were filled. Shown is the first week a team appeared on Sky. I think I had them all on in the first 7 weeks and each team shown at least three times in the first 14 weeks.”
“The min quota is the round in which the quotas for a club were filled. Shown is the first week a team appeared on Sky. I think I had them all on in the first 7 weeks and each team shown at least three times in the first 14 weeks.”
OK - thanks a lot.
thanks 
it shows that even though they only have 9 first picks they do end up with some pretty decent games if they don't make a mess of it
it shows that even though they only have 9 first picks they do end up with some pretty decent games if they don't make a mess of it
Has this actually been confirmed? I see there is a story in the Mail but nothing has changed on the Liverpool website. I'm not sure it does make the game more likely to be on TV. I think there are other games in Week 2 that will be chosen, and it's been pointed out that Sky might make a bit of a thing about the new stand at Anfield. That would now be Week 4 v Leicester.
I have to say, if I were Burnley I would not be agreeing to play four consecutive away games in February and March.
I have to say, if I were Burnley I would not be agreeing to play four consecutive away games in February and March.
If Liverpool say if it isn't switched, Anfield will be at full capacity, why do they want it switched.
Is it incase the paint is wet or something
Is it incase the paint is wet or something
Burnley might need the same thing themselves at one point in the future.
And I would have thought it makes it more likely to be on TV. Compare the amount of home matches the "big six" teams have on TV, to the number of away matches.
And I would have thought it makes it more likely to be on TV. Compare the amount of home matches the "big six" teams have on TV, to the number of away matches.
I think Sky will want the following games in Week 2:
Stoke v Man City
Sunderland v Middlesbrough
Watford v Chelsea
The fourth game depends upon BT. If BT pass first pick then Sky will get Leicester v Arsenal. If BT take that with a first pick, then I think Sky will go for Man Utd v Southampton as this can be played on the Monday night.
For sure Burnley v Liverpool is more appealing than the reverse fixture, but I just think that there are other games that will take priority.
Stoke v Man City
Sunderland v Middlesbrough
Watford v Chelsea
The fourth game depends upon BT. If BT pass first pick then Sky will get Leicester v Arsenal. If BT take that with a first pick, then I think Sky will go for Man Utd v Southampton as this can be played on the Monday night.
For sure Burnley v Liverpool is more appealing than the reverse fixture, but I just think that there are other games that will take priority.
Originally Posted by TLG86:
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For sure Burnley v Liverpool is more appealing than the reverse fixture, but I just think that there are other games that will take priority.”
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For sure Burnley v Liverpool is more appealing than the reverse fixture, but I just think that there are other games that will take priority.”
But your statement there does suggest that you think Burnley v Liverpool is more likely to be on TV than Liverpool v Burnley.
Has anyone Official released a guide to when the TV games will be moved ??
I am wanting to know if we are going to get Just August to October 1st announced to start with like last year ???
I am wanting to know if we are going to get Just August to October 1st announced to start with like last year ???
Last year we got the announcements on
03 July 15 Aug and Sep
31 July 15 Oct and Nov
08 Oct 15 December
13 Nov 15 January
17 Dec 15 February
21 Jan 16 March
26 Feb 16 April
03 July 15 Aug and Sep
31 July 15 Oct and Nov
08 Oct 15 December
13 Nov 15 January
17 Dec 15 February
21 Jan 16 March
26 Feb 16 April
I assume the same as last season (it was July 3):
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/m...explained.html
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/m...explained.html
Don't forget the season starts a week later
Euros end on July 10th
Big PL announcement Friday July 8th perhaps ???
Euros end on July 10th
Big PL announcement Friday July 8th perhaps ???
No Friday night opening week match then since Sky is showing Championship in that timeslot on 12 Aug. Last season we got the Premier League TV selections the Friday after the Championship ones
Good spot ziegler. Bit of fun if england game is dull. Let's say sky pass the opening three rounds entirely, what do you do if you are bt?
Originally Posted by loyalsince:
“Good spot ziegler. Bit of fun if england game is dull. Let's say sky pass the opening three rounds entirely, what do you do if you are bt?”
“Good spot ziegler. Bit of fun if england game is dull. Let's say sky pass the opening three rounds entirely, what do you do if you are bt?”
Take Arsenal v Liverpool and Spurs v Liverpool and pass Week 2.
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