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2016-17 Premier League TV Fixtures Thread
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PatrickBateman1
30-07-2016
Irish viewers have been paying more than UK viewers for years.
sat-ire
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“Sorry to be pedantic. But that means they aren't the same.
That package is not available to me, a sky customer living in England.”

What package are you referring to?

Sky Sports is available in both the UK and in Ireland.

The extra games - which CANNOT be shown in the UK - form part of the Sky Sports package for Irish viewers. It's not an extra package.
Neil_Harris
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by sat-ire:
“What package are you referring to?

Sky Sports is available in both the UK and in Ireland.

The extra games - which CANNOT be shown in the UK - form part of the Sky Sports package for Irish viewers. It's not an extra package.”

Maybe package is the wrong term.
I was initially referring to the prices part of the discussion. I.e Irish viewers pay more and get more.

So if these games are on Sky Sports 5, will UK viewers see a blank screen for a couple of hours on Saturday afternoons?
sat-ire
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“Maybe package is the wrong term.
I was initially referring to the prices part of the discussion. I.e Irish viewers pay more and get more.

So if these games are on Sky Sports 1, will UK viewers see a blank screen for a couple of hours on Saturday afternoons?”

Irish viewers do not pay more for the extra games. Irish viewers have pretty much always paid more.

The games will be shown on Sky Sports 5 in Ireland. There are three version of each of the Sky Sports channels (except F1).

A UK ads version, an Irish ads version and a commercial version for public premises. Whilst the 3pms are showing on Sky Sports 5 in Ireland a repeat of wrestling will be showing in the UK. This can be done because the different versions are mapped to the subscription card. In the past any card would open any version. This may or may not still be the case but will certainly change by August 13th.
Neil_Harris
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by sat-ire:
“Irish viewers do not pay more for the extra games. Irish viewers have pretty much always paid more.

The games will be shown on Sky Sports 5 in Ireland. There are three version of each of the Sky Sports channels (except F1).

A UK ads version, an Irish ads version and a commercial version for public premises. Whilst the 3pms are showing on Sky Sports 5 in Ireland a repeat of wrestling will be showing in the UK. This can be done because the different versions are mapped to the subscription card. In the past any card would open any version. This may or may not still be the case but will certainly change by August 13th.”

First time I've ever discussed this subject, so had no idea they have always paid more.

Thanks for the clear up on the other part.
sat-ire
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“First time I've ever discussed this subject, so had no idea they have always paid more.

Thanks for the clear up on the other part.”

No problems Neil.
PatrickBateman1
31-07-2016
Bit stupid of Sky to not show the 3pm games on the same channel as the Soccer Saturday simulcast, Sky Sports 1. Will the 3pm games be available on Sky Go in Ireland?
sat-ire
31-07-2016
Originally Posted by PatrickBateman1:
“Bit stupid of Sky to not show the 3pm games on the same channel as the Soccer Saturday simulcast, Sky Sports 1. Will the 3pm games be available on Sky Go in Ireland?”

I couldn't agree more; I was convinced that's where they'd end up because it makes the most sense. But trust Sky to do something off the wall and left field.

The only reasoning I have for it is that Sky Sports 5 might be missing from some platforms in Ireland so they're looking to make their direct offer more attractive.
However, if that's not the case then it's a bizarre decision.
Ryan_Kerr1
31-07-2016
Hopefully we get the fixtures this week. Hoping Burnley v Arsenal and Arsenal Spurs are on Sunday or early KOs on Saturday
PhilH36
01-08-2016
Originally Posted by sat-ire:
“Irish viewers do not pay more for the extra games. Irish viewers have pretty much always paid more.

The games will be shown on Sky Sports 5 in Ireland. There are three version of each of the Sky Sports channels (except F1).

A UK ads version, an Irish ads version and a commercial version for public premises. Whilst the 3pms are showing on Sky Sports 5 in Ireland a repeat of wrestling will be showing in the UK. This can be done because the different versions are mapped to the subscription card. In the past any card would open any version. This may or may not still be the case but will certainly change by August 13th.”

Having tuned it in via other channels I can confirm the Irish ads version of SS5 is now blocked to UK cards with the 'this programme is not available' message, but what about the pub feed, is there only one version of that for both English and Irish pubs? If there is they'll have to block that to UK subscribers as well.
sat-ire
01-08-2016
Originally Posted by PhilH36:
“Having tuned it in via other channels I can confirm the Irish ads version of SS5 is now blocked to UK cards with the 'this programme is not available' message, but what about the pub feed, is there only one version of that for both English and Irish pubs? If there is they'll have to block that to UK subscribers as well.”

Thanks Phil.

Out of interest, does that apply to both HD and SD versions?

Regards the commercial version, it is most likely that they will just block it on UK cards.
Commercial premises do not get a full mirror of each of the sports channels anyway.
PhilH36
01-08-2016
I've only tuned in the SD version as don't have an HD sports sub so would only get an upgrade screen.
sat-ire
01-08-2016
Originally Posted by PhilH36:
“I've only tuned in the SD version as don't have an HD sports sub so would only get an upgrade screen.”

Thanks for the information mate
brundlebud
01-08-2016
Originally Posted by TLG86:
“I've just been looking at the picks for August and September and I think we may have overlooked something. We've assumed that the West Ham v Southampton game in Week 6 is a Package D or G game. As it is a single game Super Sunday, however, I think that could mean it is a Package C game, which would make a lot of sense from a quota filling point of view.”

I guess it could be, but I've not seen anything to suggest that it is, nor any obvious reason why they wouldn't have shown it at 1.30 if it was a package C game - it's not a big audience-drawing fixtures that would have benefitted hugely from being shown at 4pm... Also, package C has the same 5 holes to be filled as package D.

Another of those possibilities with the new packs that we won't know enough to be able to confirm or better guess until later in the year (e.g. if there are three more West Ham games in that slot...)

I'm still leaning toward it being a 4D pick as there are ten that need to be filled and this is the sort of game I would have positioned for that pick (it's probably only the fourth or fifth highest profile game of the weekend and fills Southampton quota early), even if it is WHU's third package D game...
PhilH36
01-08-2016
What I don't understand is why the picks for October and November are now announced seperately from those for August and September. The picks for all four months are still being released before the start of the season so why can't they just announce the whole lot in one go as they previously did and give us more time to prepare for the October/November changes?
brundlebud
01-08-2016
Originally Posted by PhilH36:
“What I don't understand is why the picks for October and November are now announced seperately from those for August and September. The picks for all four months are still being released before the start of the season so why can't they just announce the whole lot in one go as they previously did and give us more time to prepare for the October/November changes?”

Why do you think they would be announced any sooner if they were all announced at once?
jlp95bwfc
01-08-2016
Originally Posted by PhilH36:
“What I don't understand is why the picks for October and November are now announced seperately from those for August and September. The picks for all four months are still being released before the start of the season so why can't they just announce the whole lot in one go as they previously did and give us more time to prepare for the October/November changes?”

Because then we'd have to wait longer than necessary for the August and September picks. That's why they changed it in the first place.
TLG86
01-08-2016
Originally Posted by brundlebud:
“I guess it could be, but I've not seen anything to suggest that it is, nor any obvious reason why they wouldn't have shown it at 1.30 if it was a package C game”

With the exception of League Cup Final weekends I can't think of a time when Sky have shown a game at 13:30 but not 16:00. I would have thought that it is possible for Sky to not show a game in either Package D or G and as it would look a little weird to have a 13:30 game without a 16:00 game, I imagine Sky have permission to show a Package C game in the 16:00 slot.

I'm not saying that this is definitely the case with West Ham v Southampton, but I do think that it is a possibility.

Originally Posted by PhilH36:
“What I don't understand is why the picks for October and November are now announced seperately from those for August and September.”

I think the rationale was to get the first six or seven weeks done as soon as possible. I think pre 2015-16 we would get the first set of fixtures in mid-July, so that was better for October and November but not as good for August and September.
Ziegler1988
01-08-2016
It's resulted in the August and September picks a week earlier than when they used to do August-November all at once.
Judio
01-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ziegler1988:
“It's resulted in the August and September picks a week earlier than when they used to do August-November all at once.”

Surely the reason is that BT and Sky can keep each other guessing by not revealing their later picks too early !!!

Lets hope we never go down the Spanish or French route where sometimes TV games are revealed 2 or 3 weeks before the weekend
sat-ire
01-08-2016
Originally Posted by Judio:
“Surely the reason is that BT and Sky can keep each other guessing by not revealing their later picks too early !!!

Lets hope we never go down the Spanish or French route where sometimes TV games are revealed 2 or 3 weeks before the weekend”

The original announcement said it was for the benefit of match-going fans.

As if!
Richardcoulter
01-08-2016
Originally Posted by PhilH36:
“Having tuned it in via other channels I can confirm the Irish ads version of SS5 is now blocked to UK cards with the 'this programme is not available' message, but what about the pub feed, is there only one version of that for both English and Irish pubs? If there is they'll have to block that to UK subscribers as well.”

The Sky Sports 5 EPG listing for pubs in the ROI simply points to the domestic version of SS5 anyway, so will also be blocked.

There are separate Sky Sports feeds for pubs in the UK & the ROI.
sat-ire
01-08-2016
Originally Posted by Richardcoulter:
“The Sky Sports 5 EPG listing for pubs in the ROI simply points to the domestic version of SS5 anyway, so will also be blocked.”

If that is the case that might explain why the games are on 5. But it seems strange that 5 isn't mapped to the pint glass version in commercial premises.

Originally Posted by Richardcoulter:
“There are separate Sky Sports feeds for pubs in the UK & the ROI.”

What frequency(s) are the separate Irish commercial versions?.

And why then wouldn't the games be shown on the separate Sky Sports 5 version?
bwfcol
02-08-2016
We also have the ultimate "I fly over from Ireland/abroad" people
Ryan_Kerr1
02-08-2016
I'd imagine you probably won't here anything until towards the end of the week
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