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Old Yesterday, 10:35
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In 2006/7

The midweeks were
Wed 29 Nov
Wed 13 Dec
Wed 31 Jan

With League Cup Wed 20 Dec

Much more sense as only 8 clubs play midweek before Sat Dec 23
With Statto down I found this

Looks like they had Four midweeks then

They can only have 3 now

http://thechels.info/wiki/2006-07_season
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Old Yesterday, 10:38
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With Statto down I found this

Looks like they had Four midweeks then

They can only have 3 now

http://thechels.info/wiki/2006-07_season
I think they only had three scheduled midweeks. This looks like a good site in place of Statto:

http://www.football-lineups.com/tour...-2007/fixture/
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Old Yesterday, 10:56
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I see FIFA have done their dates for Qatar
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&so...4c3DJPn6vngsHw

4 Euro 24 qualies at the end of the season before
2 qualies at end of that season up to June 20th
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Old Yesterday, 11:00
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I think they only had three scheduled midweeks. This looks like a good site in place of Statto:

http://www.football-lineups.com/tour...-2007/fixture/
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Weird that Chelsea Newcastle moved to midweek from a Sat in Dec ??
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Old Yesterday, 11:07
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Weird that Chelsea Newcastle moved to midweek from a Sat in Dec ??
Just looked at Newcastle.
UEFA on Thursday before
Chelsea in CL Tuesday after.

So neither would agree !!
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Old Yesterday, 11:14
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A ridiculous schedule from UEFA!
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Old Yesterday, 13:22
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The only thing that might change is the timing of the midweek round. Other than to piss managers off, I'm not sure why they'd use the 19th/20th over 12th/13th.
Indeed, and I'm not sure there's a dire need to have a midweek round at Christmas anyway. The only reason we got one this season is because we missed a potential round at Christmas - usually they can cram in another one in between Boxing Day and the New Year's fixtures, but this year they couldn't, so we only got three instead of the usual four.

I'm still amazed they managed to fit everything in during 2001-02 when the season finished very early for the World Cup, plus there were more Champions League matches (with the second group stage) and 9/11 causing various postponements early in the season.
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Old Yesterday, 14:47
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A ridiculous schedule from UEFA!
Quite - why exactly do they need 6 fixtures between the draw for the 2022 finals and the Finals actually taking place? Are these European Championships qualifiers?
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Old Yesterday, 15:01
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Quite - why exactly do they need 6 fixtures between the draw for the 2022 finals and the Finals actually taking place? Are these European Championships qualifiers?
I was actually referring to the situation in 2006-07 when Chelsea and Newcastle couldn't play each other at the weekend due to UEFA splitting the Champions League and UEFA Cup into different weeks.

For 2022 it looks like the four fixtures between 30 May and 14 June are to compensate for the fact that there won't be international dates available in October and November. I guess these will be qualifiers for Euro 2024, which will be a bit weird given that we won't have had the World Cup by then.

Going back to 2006-07, I was trying to work out how Liverpool v Newcastle was played in September. The reason is that there wasn't a weekend lost to internationals in November. There was a midweek international break (England drew 1-1 with Holland in a friendly), but this meant that there was one extra midweek available so the League Cup was one round behind what we're used to now. I guess Wigan v Arsenal wasn't played that week as it would have had to have been played on the Wednesday night (like Liverpool v Newcastle) as that midweek was preceded by a Super Sunday featuring Chelsea v Liverpool and Man Utd v Arsenal. And Sky would have wanted to show both.
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Old Yesterday, 15:28
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Going back to 2006-07, I was trying to work out how Liverpool v Newcastle was played in September. The reason is that there wasn't a weekend lost to internationals in November. There was a midweek international break (England drew 1-1 with Holland in a friendly), but this meant that there was one extra midweek available so the League Cup was one round behind what we're used to now. I guess Wigan v Arsenal wasn't played that week as it would have had to have been played on the Wednesday night (like Liverpool v Newcastle) as that midweek was preceded by a Super Sunday featuring Chelsea v Liverpool and Man Utd v Arsenal. And Sky would have wanted to show both.
Liverpool v Newcastle wasn't on UK TV. The reason Wigan v Arsenal wasn't played that week is that Wigan were in the second round of the Carling Cup.
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Old Yesterday, 15:33
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It looks like the individual leagues will be left to do their own reorganisation of their own competitions then, which quite frankly is pathetic.

Anyway I think we should ignore whatever agreements we have with UEFA, and go back to an early midweek round in August.
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Old Yesterday, 15:37
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Liverpool v Newcastle wasn't on UK TV. The reason Wigan v Arsenal wasn't played that week is that Wigan were in the second round of the Carling Cup.
I see, that makes sense.
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Old Yesterday, 16:28
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It looks like the individual leagues will be left to do their own reorganisation of their own competitions then, which quite frankly is pathetic.

Anyway I think we should ignore whatever agreements we have with UEFA, and go back to an early midweek round in August.
I used to lik the midweek round in August, It made the Season start with a bang
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Old Yesterday, 16:45
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I used to lik the midweek round in August, It made the Season start with a bang
Agreed. It meant that if your team lost on opening day they had a chance to get on the board quickly, or if they won it gave them a chance to really get on a roll. The CL play-off rounds put an end to that, although I do remember not too long ago the midweek round happened with 9 games, with the club in the CL simply playing their game at a later date.

With the TV contracts as they are now though, I fancy BT prefer their midweek rounds to be later in the year so that they have more meaning. I'm not suggesting they have any say in the placements of these rounds, but this season they've landed arguably the two most important games of the second half of the season in Liverpool v Chelsea and Chelsea v Man City, and they are both at really key parts of the season as well.
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Old Yesterday, 16:47
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It looks like the individual leagues will be left to do their own reorganisation of their own competitions then, which quite frankly is pathetic.

Anyway I think we should ignore whatever agreements we have with UEFA, and go back to an early midweek round in August.
Sky would not agree

No Monday night Football in week 1
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Old Yesterday, 17:23
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Quite - why exactly do they need 6 fixtures between the draw for the 2022 finals and the Finals actually taking place? Are these European Championships qualifiers?
They're probably actually Nations League.

Putting Qatar to one side - the two year cycle changes from 2018/19 - Autumn 2018 is the Nations League - or at least 4 dates of it are (out of 6) then the qualifiers are all in calendar year 2019 (10 dates).

Nations League Final Four tournament in Summer 2019.

Then the whole of the above repeats every two year cycle.
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Old Yesterday, 20:38
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Agreed. It meant that if your team lost on opening day they had a chance to get on the board quickly, or if they won it gave them a chance to really get on a roll. The CL play-off rounds put an end to that, although I do remember not too long ago the midweek round happened with 9 games, with the club in the CL simply playing their game at a later date.
That was alright when there was only one team playing qualifiers, but later on you got a number of clubs playing qualifiers for both the Champions League and the Uefa Cup. There was that night in 2003 when Newcastle failing to qualify for the Champions League wasn't on telly anywhere, but there was a Premiership highlights show on ITV where, in the last season where they only had commentators at a few games, a lot of it was devoted to a diabolical 0-0 between Liverpool and Spurs.

I think the last time we had the August midweek was in 2007, when Liverpool played Toulouse at 4pm because it was a Bank Holiday in France, and I also remember Fulham playing Bolton in absolutely torrential rain where all the goals were caused by players falling over in the mud and the like. Brilliant fun.

Going back to 2006-07, I was trying to work out how Liverpool v Newcastle was played in September. The reason is that there wasn't a weekend lost to internationals in November.
There was only ever an international weekend in odd-numbered years at that time, to do the play-offs for the tournaments. In even-numbered years there would just be a friendly in midweek, in 2004 for example we had that racist Spain vs England match.

I remember the season before Sunderland vs Liverpool was played during a League Cup midweek, because Liverpool were in the World Club Championship on the Saturday it was scheduled. I remember listening to it on Five Live Sports Extra with the odd commentary team of Ron Jones and Jacqui Oatley.

Liverpool v Newcastle wasn't on UK TV. The reason Wigan v Arsenal wasn't played that week is that Wigan were in the second round of the Carling Cup.
Indeed, and I remember them announcing the news of Richard Hammond's car crash during it. Funny the things, eh?
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Old Yesterday, 20:57
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There was only ever an international weekend in odd-numbered years at that time, to do the play-offs for the tournaments. In even-numbered years there would just be a friendly in midweek, in 2004 for example we had that racist Spain vs England match.
Did this use to alternate with the March international date? Did we used to get a weekend international break in March in the seasons when there wasn't a tournament? I seem to remember England drawing 0-0 with Israel and beating Andorra in March 07.

It seems ridiculous that the FIFA dates have encroached on to the calendar so much. I would be in favour in playing our League season as normal in 2022-23 and tell the clubs to play youngsters when their international players are at the World Cup.
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Old Yesterday, 22:41
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I don't think 22-23 will be too bad, in fact the players will enjoy having a proper summer break !
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Old Yesterday, 23:23
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Did this use to alternate with the March international date? Did we used to get a weekend international break in March in the seasons when there wasn't a tournament? I seem to remember England drawing 0-0 with Israel and beating Andorra in March 07.

It seems ridiculous that the FIFA dates have encroached on to the calendar so much. I would be in favour in playing our League season as normal in 2022-23 and tell the clubs to play youngsters when their international players are at the World Cup.
Trying to see what they can realistically do. I do think the discussion of the 2022-2023 should perhaps be moved to a new thread though, as it would be a bit out of topic for the 2016-2017 Premier League TV fixtures thread.
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Old Yesterday, 23:35
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Going back to the midweek fixtures in August, once the new champions league format comes in, it would mean only a maximum of 1 team is in a Europa League playoff.
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Old Yesterday, 23:56
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Going back to the midweek fixtures in August, once the new champions league format comes in, it would mean only a maximum of 1 team is in a Europa League playoff.
Which unfortunately is still 1 team too many to mean we have a midweek PL round early on.
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Old Today, 00:04
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Which unfortunately is still 1 team too many to mean we have a midweek PL round early on.
It hasn't been a problem in other seasons...
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