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Martin Fowlers speech
Ste_Murray1
24-05-2016
He mentioned Mark, Arthur, and Ian mentioned Michelle in his speech so why wasn't Pauline mentioned? it seemed like a bit of a snub from the EE producers and writers
Broken_Arrow
24-05-2016
He did mention his parents. He said they'd be in Heaven fighting over who makes the tea.

I half expected Todd Carty to rock up at the end of that speech when Martin was talking about how much he misses Mark. This is DTC after all.
Check it out
24-05-2016
"And I know mum and dad will be up there arguing over who's going to make tea."

They did. Plus, Pauline was mentioned in Peggy and Sharon's scene last week.
PDS1985
24-05-2016
Pauline was mentioned in Martin's speech she was also mentioned during Peggy and Stacey's conversation last week (Monday 16th of May episode) as well:

Peggy: "A Fowler marrying a Slater, can't imagine what Pauline would make of that."
Stacey: "Well, Dot reckons she'd be spinning in her grave."
Theo Rose
24-05-2016
I loved that he mentioned Mark! I wish Todd Carty had stayed a little bit longer. He was such a good character you know. Maybe boring at times but a really decent bloke. I think this version of Martin is actually a lot like Mark.
Ryan_Abbott1
24-05-2016
Surely Martin should have mentioned Peggy in his speech seeing as she left money behind the bar for his stag do and also Stacey nearly cancelled the whole wedding due to Peggy's death. Would have been nice of Martin to raise a toast to Peggy in her honour and memory. Maybe Stacey or Ian could have even said a few words about her?
Broken_Arrow
24-05-2016
Originally Posted by Theo Rose:
“I loved that he mentioned Mark! I wish Todd Carty had stayed a little bit longer. He was such a good character you know. Maybe boring at times but a really decent bloke. I think this version of Martin is actually a lot like Mark.”

I agree but a version with aa better personality while still possessing the same sort of everyman qualities and being from the same family.

I think that Belinda is fulfilling a similar sort of role for the Slaters. Kat but without all the emotional baggage and that dolt she calls a husband. It's a win/win situation.
Theo Rose
24-05-2016
Yeah I love how Belinda has just slotted in perfectly.
Ozboz3
24-05-2016
It was a great speech and loved the references to the past Fowler family!
Dan4
24-05-2016
Surely this = Mark Jnr is returning....
MissMonkeyMoo
24-05-2016
Originally Posted by Dan4:
“Surely this = Mark Jnr is returning....”

I would think so! if Bobby does get sent down (please God) and Jane written out ( disability /rehabilitation /jail. - Please send her to jail) they might decide they need to build up the Fowler clan again and so mark jr appears. Just in time to meet daddy dearest too......
Adrian_Ward1
24-05-2016
James Bye was great again .
Menime123
24-05-2016
Originally Posted by MissMonkeyMoo:
“I would think so! if Bobby does get sent down (please God) and Jane written out ( disability /rehabilitation /jail. - Please send her to jail) they might decide they need to build up the Fowler clan again and so mark jr appears. Just in time to meet daddy dearest too......”


The Fowlers need building up again anyway. The 3 we have (Martin, Stacey and Rebecca) is an improvement on where we were 3 years ago, but I'd like to see more. I know you'll all hate it, but they should get Stacey to have twins with Martin (twins seems to be a Slater thing) and just get the whole thing over and done with.
Pop Princess
24-05-2016
I like James Bye but sometimes it feels like a totally different character to the old Martin played by James Alexandrou. Someone mentioned tonight Ben, Stacey and Bobby all standing around the Square in one scene and they have all killed someone and then I remembered Martin technically killed Jamie Mitchell, but it feels like two different characters.
Aurora13
24-05-2016
Originally Posted by Pop Princess:
“I like James Bye but sometimes it feels like a totally different character to the old Martin played by James Alexandrou. Someone mentioned tonight Ben, Stacey and Bobby all standing around the Square in one scene and they have all killed someone and then I remembered Martin technically killed Jamie Mitchell, but it feels like two different characters.”

James Bye has progressed the character which James Alexandrou was just not capable of doing. He really has breathed life into a legacy character. It took time as James Bye had to come in and play in Martin in the limited way he was previously. Martin is a favourite of mine now.
0...0
24-05-2016
Originally Posted by Adrian_Ward1:
“James Bye was great again .”

He was. I'm surprised at how much I like Martin these days.
Menime123
24-05-2016
Originally Posted by Aurora13:
“James Bye has progressed the character which James Alexandrou was just not capable of doing. He really has breathed life into a legacy character. It took time as James Bye had to come in and play in Martin in the limited way he was previously. Martin is a favourite of mine now.”


Old Martin was stifled terribly by Pauline though. Whether or not New Martin has just married New Pauline remains to be seen
Aaron_Silver
24-05-2016
Originally Posted by 0...0:
“He was. I'm surprised at how much I like Martin these days.”

James Bye has been a revelation, but it helps that Lacey Turner and him both have a fantastic working relationship because it really shows on screen.
0...0
24-05-2016
Originally Posted by Aaron_Silver:
“James Bye has been a revelation, but it helps that Lacey Turner and him both have a fantastic working relationship because it really shows on screen.”

Yes, I'm not a Stacey fan but they do work surprisingly well together, even though he's a henpecked cuckold.
Adrian_Ward1
25-05-2016
Agree About how great new Martin is. James Bye has made the role his own.
Menime123
25-05-2016
Originally Posted by 0...0:
“Yes, I'm not a Stacey fan but they do work surprisingly well together, even though he's a henpecked cuckold. ”

Well we know where he gets that from!
cobwebsoup
25-05-2016
Originally Posted by Theo Rose:
“I loved that he mentioned Mark! I wish Todd Carty had stayed a little bit longer. He was such a good character you know. Maybe boring at times but a really decent bloke. I think this version of Martin is actually a lot like Mark.”

If I could bring back one character dead or alive, it would probably be Mark Fowler. He was in the show for a long time and it would be so great if he was around these days. His scenes with Arthur and Pauline after his HIV announcement were classic Eastenders.
cobwebsoup
25-05-2016
Originally Posted by Pop Princess:
“I like James Bye but sometimes it feels like a totally different character to the old Martin played by James Alexandrou. Someone mentioned tonight Ben, Stacey and Bobby all standing around the Square in one scene and they have all killed someone and then I remembered Martin technically killed Jamie Mitchell, but it feels like two different characters.”

I totally agree. James A will always be Martin Fowler to me. James B is a good actor, but he's just not Martin Fowler
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