Maybe the actors wanted to go. Then one can blame the HO boss only for making their exits ridiculous.
Hollyoaks E4 Daily | 24/05/16 | 7:00 - Taking The Plunge
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All this Sienna being involved in Grace's wedding is ridiculous. And who would want a nutter like Ben in the police???
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Ridiculous nonsense to this once great show
”
“Ridiculous nonsense to this once great show
”
It's really sad to see the show fall when at one point it was better than the big 3.
More church weddings.... It's so ridiculous in soaps. Even in real life fewer and fewer people get married at a religious ceremony 
Originally Posted by mrbernay:
“More church weddings.... It's so ridiculous in soaps. Even in real life fewer and fewer people get married at a religious ceremony”
“More church weddings.... It's so ridiculous in soaps. Even in real life fewer and fewer people get married at a religious ceremony
”
2 murderers taking vows in front of God is pretty funny MrB
Originally Posted by mrbernay:
“More church weddings.... It's so ridiculous in soaps. Even in real life fewer and fewer people get married at a religious ceremony”
“More church weddings.... It's so ridiculous in soaps. Even in real life fewer and fewer people get married at a religious ceremony
”
Might have been Grace's dream to have a church wedding with all the trimmings.
And nothing unrealistic about murderers having a church wedding. People can separate God from business
Aren't mob people religious, too?
I'm heartbroken.
I was so sure the funeral photos in the press allegedly for Trevor were just a rouse and then when Ben's exit was announced I was sure Nico would kill him, I was looking forward to it!!
RIP Trevor - one of the few redeeming features of HO this last few years
I was so sure the funeral photos in the press allegedly for Trevor were just a rouse and then when Ben's exit was announced I was sure Nico would kill him, I was looking forward to it!!
RIP Trevor - one of the few redeeming features of HO this last few years
The only way to partly redeem this crap is for Nico to kill Ben just as she confesses about Carly. He could try strangling her but she grabs a rock and smashes him over the head. I hate Nico, but I want Ben killed off to prevent any chance of a return. She needs to be sectioned when Sienna finally lets go.
Then of course there's still Trevor and Patrick. Sienna doesn't know about what she did. And mixed in with that, Maxine and Darren hid Patrick's body in the wall.
I feel so bad for Grace. One of the few good characters and those stupid brothers are coming back soon. They should've kept Clare alive for her. I suppose I like her friendship with Esther and (now) Sienna).
Then of course there's still Trevor and Patrick. Sienna doesn't know about what she did. And mixed in with that, Maxine and Darren hid Patrick's body in the wall.
I feel so bad for Grace. One of the few good characters and those stupid brothers are coming back soon. They should've kept Clare alive for her. I suppose I like her friendship with Esther and (now) Sienna).
JP and Boris work better than JP and scott
If I have to deal with JP I would rather he be with Boris
If I have to deal with JP I would rather he be with Boris
Originally Posted by Anna_W:
“She's got Trevor's blood on her sleeve.”
“She's got Trevor's blood on her sleeve.”
It's Hollyoaks, no one will notice.
Originally Posted by Emma_Henvey:
“It's Hollyoaks, no one will notice.”
“It's Hollyoaks, no one will notice.”
It was something that they would normally put after the credits. "What have I done today again? Oops, now I remember." It will have no consequence. Nico was a serial killer in the making for a long time, now she crossed the line. She had impulses to kill her problems a long time, now she went through with it.
Originally Posted by ChelseaEllie:
“JP and Boris work better than JP and scott
If I have to deal with JP I would rather he be with Boris”
“JP and Boris work better than JP and scott
If I have to deal with JP I would rather he be with Boris”
I don't like how James makes JP behave. As bizarre as some of JP's pairings have been at least he was/is his more likeable real self with them. JP and Scott should at least be good friends I hope that is how that pans out. JP with James in any circumstance is just vile as James always has an agenda of some kind and not for the other person's benefit (bar his mum).
Originally Posted by spikewoman:
“I don't like how James makes JP behave. As bizarre as some of JP's pairings have been at least he was/is his more likeable real self with them. JP and Scott should at least be good friends I hope that is how that pans out. JP with James in any circumstance is just vile as James always has an agenda of some kind and not for the other person's benefit (bar his mum).”
“I don't like how James makes JP behave. As bizarre as some of JP's pairings have been at least he was/is his more likeable real self with them. JP and Scott should at least be good friends I hope that is how that pans out. JP with James in any circumstance is just vile as James always has an agenda of some kind and not for the other person's benefit (bar his mum).”
James is a cruel person, John Paul has seen it a few times already, but it seemed to sink in only now. At least it finally did. But I am really worried about John Paul's taste, that so called lamp was hideous. There must be some Gay for Dummies courses in HO, he needs them desperately
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“James is a cruel person, John Paul has seen it a few times already, but it seemed to sink in only now. At least it finally did. But I am really worried about John Paul's taste, that so called lamp was hideous. There must be some Gay for Dummies courses in HO, he needs them desperately”
“James is a cruel person, John Paul has seen it a few times already, but it seemed to sink in only now. At least it finally did. But I am really worried about John Paul's taste, that so called lamp was hideous. There must be some Gay for Dummies courses in HO, he needs them desperately
”
I think the JP and James hook up was all about him being angry with Scott. If he hadn't been angry with Scott initially he'd have stayed around Scott's shoulder to lean on or cry on. Because Scott only kept the secret for a short while and even then under duress from Sally and Myra he was easier to forgive especially as he became the victim of James' cruel barbs. I was actually quite impressed with Scott's dignity when confronted with James' insults, he doesn't fly off the handle which is one of his redeeming factors.
Obviously really sad to see Trevor go. He'd actually become one of my favourite characters. He was certainly one of the very few whose storylines I actually enjoyed. Also a devestating blow to lose such a great actor in Gregg Wood. I expect that it was his choice to leave, and who can blame him with the general state of the show at the moment?
I actually think it was a good exit for him though, in a way. Although, I don't see how it really makes any sense that he just let himself bleed to death to marry Grace. I'm sure she'd have preferred for him to live and postpone the wedding. Just a bit silly considering he had Curtis as well, and why did he just let Nico get away with it? But at least it was a sort of big dramatic ending, and a tragic ending, for a character who started off a villain but became a real anti-hero, in the end.
The real tragedy of Hollyoaks and all its serial killers is that this Nico story, on its own, would actually be brilliant and compelling television. But alongside Cameron and Lindsey - not to mention the casual killers like Freddie - its just part of a ridiculous picture.
Elsewhere, i've seen Hollyoaks viewers complain about the fact that the gay characters always seem to jump into bed with one another. In the past I didn't think much of that, since it was no different to what the straight characters were doing. But recently, with James, I think it definitely has become an issue. I can see why some viewers might be annoyed by this portrayal of the LGBTQ community.
Relatedly, you know what I don't get? Kirkword is known for doing a lot of gay characters, right? So why does he seem to give so little craps about representing lesbians? We have Esther and Kim, who are probably one of my favourite couples on the show, but that's all really (unless you count Grace). Why the unevenness? I've read before the lesbians are very under-represented on television - even, for example, when equal marriage was legalised, the news concentrated on men and had a fraction of women on. Considering the amount of gay male characters, it just seems biased.
I actually think it was a good exit for him though, in a way. Although, I don't see how it really makes any sense that he just let himself bleed to death to marry Grace. I'm sure she'd have preferred for him to live and postpone the wedding. Just a bit silly considering he had Curtis as well, and why did he just let Nico get away with it? But at least it was a sort of big dramatic ending, and a tragic ending, for a character who started off a villain but became a real anti-hero, in the end.
The real tragedy of Hollyoaks and all its serial killers is that this Nico story, on its own, would actually be brilliant and compelling television. But alongside Cameron and Lindsey - not to mention the casual killers like Freddie - its just part of a ridiculous picture.
Elsewhere, i've seen Hollyoaks viewers complain about the fact that the gay characters always seem to jump into bed with one another. In the past I didn't think much of that, since it was no different to what the straight characters were doing. But recently, with James, I think it definitely has become an issue. I can see why some viewers might be annoyed by this portrayal of the LGBTQ community.
Relatedly, you know what I don't get? Kirkword is known for doing a lot of gay characters, right? So why does he seem to give so little craps about representing lesbians? We have Esther and Kim, who are probably one of my favourite couples on the show, but that's all really (unless you count Grace). Why the unevenness? I've read before the lesbians are very under-represented on television - even, for example, when equal marriage was legalised, the news concentrated on men and had a fraction of women on. Considering the amount of gay male characters, it just seems biased.
Apropos James, he looked confused and disappointed that John Paul would choose Scott over him. After all, he put out, treated him with champagne, went shopping with him, paid for his ugly lamp. And, nothing 
Originally Posted by StarryNight:
“Obviously really sad to see Trevor go. He'd actually become one of my favourite characters. He was certainly one of the very few whose storylines I actually enjoyed. Also a devestating blow to lose such a great actor in Gregg Wood. I expect that it was his choice to leave, and who can blame him with the general state of the show at the moment?
I actually think it was a good exit for him though, in a way. Although, I don't see how it really makes any sense that he just let himself bleed to death to marry Grace. I'm sure she'd have preferred for him to live and postpone the wedding. Just a bit silly considering he had Curtis as well, and why did he just let Nico get away with it? But at least it was a sort of big dramatic ending, and a tragic ending, for a character who started off a villain but became a real anti-hero, in the end.
The real tragedy of Hollyoaks and all its serial killers is that this Nico story, on its own, would actually be brilliant and compelling television. But alongside Cameron and Lindsey - not to mention the casual killers like Freddie - its just part of a ridiculous picture.
Elsewhere, i've seen Hollyoaks viewers complain about the fact that the gay characters always seem to jump into bed with one another. In the past I didn't think much of that, since it was no different to what the straight characters were doing. But recently, with James, I think it definitely has become an issue. I can see why some viewers might be annoyed by this portrayal of the LGBTQ community.
Relatedly, you know what I don't get? Kirkword is known for doing a lot of gay characters, right? So why does he seem to give so little craps about representing lesbians? We have Esther and Kim, who are probably one of my favourite couples on the show, but that's all really (unless you count Grace). Why the unevenness? I've read before the lesbians are very under-represented on television - even, for example, when equal marriage was legalised, the news concentrated on men and had a fraction of women on. Considering the amount of gay male characters, it just seems biased.”
“Obviously really sad to see Trevor go. He'd actually become one of my favourite characters. He was certainly one of the very few whose storylines I actually enjoyed. Also a devestating blow to lose such a great actor in Gregg Wood. I expect that it was his choice to leave, and who can blame him with the general state of the show at the moment?
I actually think it was a good exit for him though, in a way. Although, I don't see how it really makes any sense that he just let himself bleed to death to marry Grace. I'm sure she'd have preferred for him to live and postpone the wedding. Just a bit silly considering he had Curtis as well, and why did he just let Nico get away with it? But at least it was a sort of big dramatic ending, and a tragic ending, for a character who started off a villain but became a real anti-hero, in the end.
The real tragedy of Hollyoaks and all its serial killers is that this Nico story, on its own, would actually be brilliant and compelling television. But alongside Cameron and Lindsey - not to mention the casual killers like Freddie - its just part of a ridiculous picture.
Elsewhere, i've seen Hollyoaks viewers complain about the fact that the gay characters always seem to jump into bed with one another. In the past I didn't think much of that, since it was no different to what the straight characters were doing. But recently, with James, I think it definitely has become an issue. I can see why some viewers might be annoyed by this portrayal of the LGBTQ community.
Relatedly, you know what I don't get? Kirkword is known for doing a lot of gay characters, right? So why does he seem to give so little craps about representing lesbians? We have Esther and Kim, who are probably one of my favourite couples on the show, but that's all really (unless you count Grace). Why the unevenness? I've read before the lesbians are very under-represented on television - even, for example, when equal marriage was legalised, the news concentrated on men and had a fraction of women on. Considering the amount of gay male characters, it just seems biased.”
The only gay character who really get's storylines is Ste, and now he is well overexposed. In the last couple of year's he's been with John Paul and had a big gay Christmas wedding, then found out he had HIV, slept with his best mate and got her pregnant, then left her for a schoolboy, got re addicted to drugs several times, made homeless, and will soon be part of a 'big' crystal meth storyline. Whilst John Paul has only had Sally being his dad and the last significant story to that was that he had an affair with Lockie. James is a controlling freak who has some serious issues, and Harry is just there for people to drool over and to be Ste's boytoy.
I actually like Esther and Kim, they work well and it's sweet to see them together.
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