I think that Kathy is just trying desparately to keep her family together

having spent many years "dead" and unable to speak or see them it makes sense that she would do this

Sharon was protecting herself, Phil and maybe Ian & Jane.

I recon when he admitted to caving in Jane's head against Richie's advice, she realised that Lucy was a genuine mistake, he didn't want to kill her, and that everything since (Denny & Jane) has been Jane (and Ian)'s fault for covering it up. He's just a kid who's had to keep it all in.

I think this is the case too, definitely with sharon and Phil. But although Kathy faked her death etc etc, her actions now DON'T fit with that of her character. Her grandson - who she had never met until she came back from the dead - killed her granddaughter, then attacked Denny, pushed Jane down the stairs and then battered Jane repeatedly with a hockey stick. if don't care if she is his grandmother, at what point will she think Bobby has gone too far? When he's taken out all his siblings and Ian too? Ridiculous.

Kathy doesn't really seem to have much conviction in any of her opinions. So waffley and awkward to watch really. Doesn't sound anything like the Pre-Dead incarnation.

Nah. In the moment Bobby wants to bash the living daylights out of the person (GBH) or silence them (murder). I can't believe folks are still hanging onto Jane yarn. If you hit someone with intent (GBH) and the person dies it is murder.

Didnt he also throw a TV at her in temper over swapping his room with her .?

Ooooh yes, forgot about that! And he was going to hit Phil with a golf club and throw a brick through max's windscreen.

I totally agree!

You've got to remember Lucy died over two years ago, bobby was 10 (?) at this point. I'm not saying he wasn't a bit messed up or whatever to hit his sister over the head, but I don't think his intention was to kill her. Murder is killing with forethought.

But now, he's had two years (during a pretty formative point of his life) of his family being torn apart by it, he's known for a year that it was basically all his fault. It's this stewing that's turned him into a complete psycho.

Bobby knew exactly what he was doing when he killed Lucy...he couldn't have been more cold and cunning. Instead of screaming for his father who was in the house he phoned the one person he knew would take his sob story and cover up for him. The person who love him more than the rest of the family put together....Jane.

Yes, if it had been an accident he wouldn't have hit her in the back on the head! He wanted to hurt her, he deliberately struck her. And in the aftermath be didn't scream, he kept quiet and called his mum. and then he didn't even mention the incident to anyone afterwards. He knew he killed Lucy - don't forget, he even asked Peter if he killed Lucy. If he didn't think that he had done it, why would he ask that out of the blue before Peter left?

As I keep saying to be murder the forethought only has to be to inflict grevious bodily harm on someone. If you decided to go after someone to bash the living daylights out of them but they subsequently died you will be charged with murder. You don't have to go out with the intention to kill that person.

As for Bobby it is likely that he would have been charged with manslaughter 2 years ago. Now his intent to commit GBH on folks is far more clear. He has to hope Jane doesn't die or he'll be facing a murder charge.

I mean I think it was an in the moment thing entirely (in that the writers mean it to be that, not that it makes sense). We're applying what Bobby has done in the last two years to Bobby back then, he was barely out of the spelling bee at that point.

I genuinely believe that the storyline-big-idea is that in trying to save her son, Jane made a monster (with some nice parallels to Dot who believed her son could be saved, but in the end had to admit defeat).