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Old 24-05-2016, 20:24
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Have been trying to work out who would be facing criminal Charges following the Lucy Beal fiasco.

So far I have it like this:

Bobby Beale: Murder/Manslaughter

Ian Beale: Perverting the course of justice. Making false statements to the Police. Wasting Police time.

Jane Beale: Failing to report a death. Moving a body. Perverting the course of justice. Making false statements to the Police. Wasting Police time.

Kathy Beale: Perverting the course of justice.

Phil Mitchell: Bribing a juror. Perverting the course of just. Making false statements to the Police. Wasting Police time.

Sharon Mitchell: Perverting the course of just. Making false statements to the Police. Wasting Police time.

Suffice to say, they would all be facing prison time (well Bobby wouldn't go to prison initially) with things looking especially bleak for Phil who bribed a jury member as well as perverting the course of justice...
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:27
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Have been trying to work out who would be facing criminal Charges following the Lucy Beal fiasco.

So far I have it like this:

Bobby Beale: Murder/Manslaughter

Ian Beale: Perverting the course of justice. Making false statements to the Police. Wasting Police time.

Jane Beale: Failing to report a death. Moving a body. Perverting the course of justice. Making false statements to the Police. Wasting Police time.

Kathy Beale: Perverting the course of justice.

Phil Mitchell: Bribing a juror. Perverting the course of just. Making false statements to the Police. Wasting Police time.

Sharon Mitchell: Perverting the course of just. Making false statements to the Police. Wasting Police time.

Jane beale must be classed as an accomplice.

but yeah I was thnking the same, how are they going to explain away non of them going to prison (if that is what happens)

I can see Phil and Sharon being left out of it

but Lauren, Peter, Liam and Cindy also knew so are they going to be charged too.
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:28
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but Lauren, Peter, Liam and Cindy also knew so are they going to be charged too.
Oh yeah, I forgot about all those!
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:30
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Jane beale must be classed as an accomplice.

but yeah I was thnking the same, how are they going to explain away non of them going to prison (if that is what happens)

I can see Phil and Sharon being left out of it

but Lauren, Peter, Liam and Cindy also knew so are they going to be charged too.
Liam and Cindy have been sentenced to living with Carol.
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:30
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They've should have done it that Ian and everyone only found out tonight it was Bobby and then only Jane would be in trouble.
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:34
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Alex Lamb for crimes against storylining
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:35
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Alex Lamb for crimes against storylining
Lou Beale will be haunting him saying "Worr 'ave you done to my famlee!?"
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:36
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Plus DS Bryant if the truth were to come out about him not reporting Lauren's statement.

Can we add stating the bloody obvious to Kathy's charges?
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:39
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Liam and Cindy have been sentenced to living with Carol.

bit mean, they have Ricky too

They've should have done it that Ian and everyone only found out tonight it was Bobby and then only Jane would be in trouble.
exactly, this is the thing with dtc and Ee atm, they do things for shock value and to try and get viewers but don't think any further than that episode.

it makes a mockery of the whole story and lucy being killed in that there is no satisfactory answer, they can't have all these people get off and they can't send them all to prison

Ian's family were enriched with the history of the show, Bobby might have killed Lucy but DTC has struck the final blow and killed the Beale family.
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:44
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They've should have done it that Ian and everyone only found out tonight it was Bobby and then only Jane would be in trouble.
This. I still can't understand though why after this Sharon is still trying to cover for him. She helped cover up the murder of Lucy, but after Denny and the spider were attacked she said something needed doing to stop him, OK so he got sent to boarding school but that clearly hasn't worked, it just seems so unbelievable that she is trying to help him - or is it just because she is trying to protect her "family"?
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:49
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Can we add stating the bloody obvious to Kathy's charges?
Multiple counts of committing an act of gross stupidity, perhaps?
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:50
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Another thought is that I doubt anything would happen with Phil bribing the jury as he won't admit to it, and the jury would be stupid to admit taking a bribe. Sharon could claim she knew nothing - which is true in every sense! Ian could claim he only just found out about it. Kathy I don't think gave a statement as she wasn't 'alive' during it.

Jane should be the only one to be worried as she directly helped in covering the whole thing up. Although Abi should be sent down after deliberately lying to get her own father sent down.
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:51
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This. I still can't understand though why after this Sharon is still trying to cover for him. She helped cover up the murder of Lucy, but after Denny and the spider were attacked she said something needed doing to stop him, OK so he got sent to boarding school but that clearly hasn't worked, it just seems so unbelievable that she is trying to help him - or is it just because she is trying to protect her "family"?
I assumed it was because she's covering up for Phil's bribery. And covering her own arse, of course.
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:51
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Plus DS Bryant if the truth were to come out about him not reporting Lauren's statement.

Can we add stating the bloody obvious to Kathy's charges?
Maybe her brain didnt come back to life with the rest of her
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:55
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Maybe her brain didnt come back to life with the rest of her
That explains a lot, her limited air time seems to consist of her going round saying "Oh, I just thought that....."
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Old 24-05-2016, 20:57
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It's very difficult to see how Jane in particular can get away with not going to prison.. perhaps the rest of them will get suspended sentences
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Old 24-05-2016, 21:10
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This. I still can't understand though why after this Sharon is still trying to cover for him. She helped cover up the murder of Lucy, but after Denny and the spider were attacked she said something needed doing to stop him, OK so he got sent to boarding school but that clearly hasn't worked, it just seems so unbelievable that she is trying to help him - or is it just because she is trying to protect her "family"?
She was already covering for Ronnie murdering Carl and Phil being behind the attack on her in the Albert. I wonder how she'll feel if Denny is attacked by Bobby again because he's out on bail.
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Old 24-05-2016, 21:16
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It's very difficult to see how Jane in particular can get away with not going to prison.. perhaps the rest of them will get suspended sentences
perhaps that is why they have had bobby splatter her to pieces
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Old 24-05-2016, 21:39
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It's very difficult to see how Jane in particular can get away with not going to prison.. perhaps the rest of them will get suspended sentences
In these circumstances (covering up a murder and conspiring for someone else to be convicted of the crime) perverting the coarse of justice would almost certainly carry custodial sentences...Everyone in my original post would be going to prise if the relevant charges were laid.

Jane's situation is particularly bleak because she also moved the body, tampered with a crime scene and failed to report the death.

Out of everyone, though, Phil would probably get the longest sentence if his bribery of a Jury member came to light. With that and the perversion charge he'd easily be looking at 5+ years behind bars.
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Old 24-05-2016, 22:02
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I'm desperate to know how this will pan out!, I think Sharon and Phil will be ok but are the whole Beale clan going down? DTC has left a mess for someone else to sort out. Although I do wonder if perhaps Adam Woodyatt has decided to leave and this has been the agreed outcome from the start of this.
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Old 24-05-2016, 22:03
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Have been trying to work out who would be facing criminal Charges following the Lucy Beal fiasco.

So far I have it like this:

Bobby Beale: Murder/Manslaughter
It would be Manslaughter. He didnt intend to kill her when he chucked the jewellary box at her.
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Old 24-05-2016, 22:28
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It would be Manslaughter. He didnt intend to kill her when he chucked the jewellary box at her.
Agreed it was Manslaughter... Though by covering it all up, the Beales have done everything they can to make it look like murder...
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Old 24-05-2016, 22:30
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I think he might be charged with unlawful killing.
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Old 24-05-2016, 22:44
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Agreed it was Manslaughter... Though by covering it all up, the Beales have done everything they can to make it look like murder...
exactly, given the time lapsed and scale of the cover up, massive wasting of police time & money they are gonna go for the biggest charge they can pin on him
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Old 24-05-2016, 22:45
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It would be Manslaughter. He didnt intend to kill her when he chucked the jewellary box at her.
Was there intent to cause GBH? If so, should the person die it is still murder.

I need to go back and watch again but I think they said they would charge Bobby with GBH for his attack on Jane. Should Jane die he is likely facing a murder charge. As for Lucy it is going to depend on what Bobby actually says. What did he intend when he attacked her?



The law of murder is set out in common law. The legal definition of murder is 'the unlawful killing of a human being in the Queen's peace, with malice aforethought'.


The actus reus of murder consists of the unlawful killing of a human being in the Queen's peace. The mens rea of murder is malice aforethought, which has been interpreted by the courts as meaning intention to kill or intention to cause GBH.


A murder conviction carries a mandatory life sentence. The judge passing sentence can not pass a lesser sentence no matter how mitigating the circumstances might be. There exist three partial defences to murder which may reduce the conviction to voluntary manslaughter which carries a maximum sentence of life and thus allows the judge discretion on sentencing. These partial defences are contained in the Homicide Act 1957 and consist of diminished responsibility, provocation and suicide pact.
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