So Leicester V Everton does not get picked but great to see a game with no Premier League teams in it get picked for TV.
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The FA Cup 2016-17
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Didn't expect 6 games to be picked. Spurs v Villa I think always had a chance of being picked as Villa are still a fairly big team and only got relegated last season.
Surprised that Cambridge v Leeds has been picked, but good to see out of the 6 picked that not all of them have to involve 1 or 2 PL clubs.
Wouldn't have picked Liverpool v Plymouth or Newport to be honest, though they do have some recent history of struggling against lower league opposition in cups I suppose.
Normally I wouldn't pick Man Utd v Reading but even ignoring the fact Stam is going back to Old Trafford, Man Utd aren't doing sensational and Reading (last Saturday aside) are going pretty well in the Championship so you could argue there's a reasonable chance for a surprise there especially if Man Utd don't play a full first team, a bit like Middlesbrough away to Man City last season (or the season before, I can't remember).
Surprised that Cambridge v Leeds has been picked, but good to see out of the 6 picked that not all of them have to involve 1 or 2 PL clubs.
Wouldn't have picked Liverpool v Plymouth or Newport to be honest, though they do have some recent history of struggling against lower league opposition in cups I suppose.
Normally I wouldn't pick Man Utd v Reading but even ignoring the fact Stam is going back to Old Trafford, Man Utd aren't doing sensational and Reading (last Saturday aside) are going pretty well in the Championship so you could argue there's a reasonable chance for a surprise there especially if Man Utd don't play a full first team, a bit like Middlesbrough away to Man City last season (or the season before, I can't remember).
Actually, we should have been expecting a sixth game.
It was announced in April when the BBC and BT extended their deal that BT would be showing an extra game from rounds 1 to 5 (although I'm sure they showed the same number in rounds 1 and 2 this season as last?).
It was announced in April when the BBC and BT extended their deal that BT would be showing an extra game from rounds 1 to 5 (although I'm sure they showed the same number in rounds 1 and 2 this season as last?).
Originally Posted by stevvy1986:
“Didn't expect 6 games to be picked. Spurs v Villa I think always had a chance of being picked as Villa are still a fairly big team and only got relegated last season.
Surprised that Cambridge v Leeds has been picked, but good to see out of the 6 picked that not all of them have to involve 1 or 2 PL clubs.
Wouldn't have picked Liverpool v Plymouth or Newport to be honest, though they do have some recent history of struggling against lower league opposition in cups I suppose.
Normally I wouldn't pick Man Utd v Reading but even ignoring the fact Stam is going back to Old Trafford, Man Utd aren't doing sensational and Reading (last Saturday aside) are going pretty well in the Championship so you could argue there's a reasonable chance for a surprise there especially if Man Utd don't play a full first team, a bit like Middlesbrough away to Man City last season (or the season before, I can't remember).”
“Didn't expect 6 games to be picked. Spurs v Villa I think always had a chance of being picked as Villa are still a fairly big team and only got relegated last season.
Surprised that Cambridge v Leeds has been picked, but good to see out of the 6 picked that not all of them have to involve 1 or 2 PL clubs.
Wouldn't have picked Liverpool v Plymouth or Newport to be honest, though they do have some recent history of struggling against lower league opposition in cups I suppose.
Normally I wouldn't pick Man Utd v Reading but even ignoring the fact Stam is going back to Old Trafford, Man Utd aren't doing sensational and Reading (last Saturday aside) are going pretty well in the Championship so you could argue there's a reasonable chance for a surprise there especially if Man Utd don't play a full first team, a bit like Middlesbrough away to Man City last season (or the season before, I can't remember).”
As a Reading lad all I can say is don't get your hopes up. Stam has moulded them into a solid unit but there's not much ability in the team. Our striker are dreadful.
Though we are about to get bought out by some Chinese billionaires so we might have some new players on the 1st Jan
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“Actually, we should have been expecting a sixth game.
It was announced in April when the BBC and BT extended their deal that BT would be showing an extra game from rounds 1 to 5 (although I'm sure they showed the same number in rounds 1 and 2 this season as last?).”
“Actually, we should have been expecting a sixth game.
It was announced in April when the BBC and BT extended their deal that BT would be showing an extra game from rounds 1 to 5 (although I'm sure they showed the same number in rounds 1 and 2 this season as last?).”
Have to say I thought that would kick in from 2018/19 rather than now but perhaps they did a deal to start early in part to compensate for losing QF replays this season.
http://sport.bt.com/football/news/bt...11364051463786
Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“TV Games from...
Man Utd v Reading
West Ham v Man City
Everton v Leicester
Liverpool v Newport/Plymouth
Preston v Arsenal
Spurs v Villa
Bolton v Palace
Will 5 be shown?”
“TV Games from...
Man Utd v Reading
West Ham v Man City
Everton v Leicester
Liverpool v Newport/Plymouth
Preston v Arsenal
Spurs v Villa
Bolton v Palace
Will 5 be shown?”
So 6 are being shown. didn't see Cambridge/Leeds coming
Originally Posted by stevvy1986:
“Didn't expect 6 games to be picked. Spurs v Villa I think always had a chance of being picked as Villa are still a fairly big team and only got relegated last season.
Surprised that Cambridge v Leeds has been picked, but good to see out of the 6 picked that not all of them have to involve 1 or 2 PL clubs.
Wouldn't have picked Liverpool v Plymouth or Newport to be honest, though they do have some recent history of struggling against lower league opposition in cups I suppose.
Normally I wouldn't pick Man Utd v Reading but even ignoring the fact Stam is going back to Old Trafford, Man Utd aren't doing sensational and Reading (last Saturday aside) are going pretty well in the Championship so you could argue there's a reasonable chance for a surprise there especially if Man Utd don't play a full first team, a bit like Middlesbrough away to Man City last season (or the season before, I can't remember).”
“Didn't expect 6 games to be picked. Spurs v Villa I think always had a chance of being picked as Villa are still a fairly big team and only got relegated last season.
Surprised that Cambridge v Leeds has been picked, but good to see out of the 6 picked that not all of them have to involve 1 or 2 PL clubs.
Wouldn't have picked Liverpool v Plymouth or Newport to be honest, though they do have some recent history of struggling against lower league opposition in cups I suppose.
Normally I wouldn't pick Man Utd v Reading but even ignoring the fact Stam is going back to Old Trafford, Man Utd aren't doing sensational and Reading (last Saturday aside) are going pretty well in the Championship so you could argue there's a reasonable chance for a surprise there especially if Man Utd don't play a full first team, a bit like Middlesbrough away to Man City last season (or the season before, I can't remember).”
Both Liverpool and Utd will be fielding weakened teams with reserves and kids as they have league cup semi-final ties on the following Tuesday and Wednesday.
Gives the away sides more of a chance but it's funny when the TV companies big up these games when in Liverpools case there will be some kid's, occasional neutral fans will of never heard of.
Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“. didn't see Cambridge/Leeds coming”
“. didn't see Cambridge/Leeds coming”
Well it is Leeds - probably the most popular side outside of the Premier league for TV games.
I reckon BT will be delighted with that. They've got Liverpool v Man City on New Year's Eve and Man City v Spurs on 21 January, so they'd have preferred PNE v Arsenal to West Ham v Man City. And getting Man Utd v Reading suggests they did have second and third picks in this round.
Originally Posted by Mark F:
“Well it is Leeds - probably the most popular side outside of the Premier league for TV games.”
“Well it is Leeds - probably the most popular side outside of the Premier league for TV games.”
They were.... until Newcastle & Villa stole their thunder
Originally Posted by TLG86:
“I reckon BT will be delighted with that. They've got two Liverpool v Man City on New Year's Eve and Man City v Spurs on 21 January, so they'd have preferred PNE v Arsenal to West Ham v Man City. And getting Man Utd v Reading suggests they did have second and third picks in this round.”
“I reckon BT will be delighted with that. They've got two Liverpool v Man City on New Year's Eve and Man City v Spurs on 21 January, so they'd have preferred PNE v Arsenal to West Ham v Man City. And getting Man Utd v Reading suggests they did have second and third picks in this round.”
Tottenham v Villa presumably a fourth pick? Really surprised and delighted the Beeb picked it.
Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“They were.... until Newcastle & Villa stole their thunder”
“They were.... until Newcastle & Villa stole their thunder”
Villa & Newcastle have just come down If they are still doing it 12 years outside top flight then they might be most popular outside Pl
Originally Posted by spursboy68:
“Tottenham v Villa presumably a fourth pick? Really surprised and delighted the Beeb picked it.”
“Tottenham v Villa presumably a fourth pick? Really surprised and delighted the Beeb picked it.”
Yes, BBC get first and third or fourth pick. I expected them to go for Everton v Leicester, but there you go.
Originally Posted by Rich1977:
“Have to say I thought that would kick in from 2018/19 rather than now but perhaps they did a deal to start early in part to compensate for losing QF replays this season.
http://sport.bt.com/football/news/bt...11364051463786”
“Have to say I thought that would kick in from 2018/19 rather than now but perhaps they did a deal to start early in part to compensate for losing QF replays this season.
http://sport.bt.com/football/news/bt...11364051463786”
Yes, I think that looks exactly right.
On a standalone basis, BBC and BT would have had to be compensated for the loss of QF replays which represents a change to their existing 14/18 contracts, mid-contract.
However the FA signed new contacts with BBC and BT for 18/21 and it therefore seems likely that the whole thing was bundled together - ie BBC and BT agreed to the changes to 14/18 as part of the deal for signing 18/21. And part of that deal may well have been to let BT start showing an extra game from this season onwards.
Of course under the 18/21 contract, BT will have five extra games per season - ie one in each of R1 to R5. So whether they'll also be showing an extra game this season in R4 and R5 we'll have to wait and see - but it could be a possibility.
Originally Posted by TLG86:
“Yes, BBC get first and third or fourth pick. I expected them to go for Everton v Leicester, but there you go.”
“Yes, BBC get first and third or fourth pick. I expected them to go for Everton v Leicester, but there you go.”
They made the right decision to ignore it. If the draw had been even half interesting this sort of tie between two out of form PL sides wouldn't have got a look in.
Originally Posted by Nick G:
“They made the right decision to ignore it. If the draw had been even half interesting this sort of tie between two out of form PL sides wouldn't have got a look in.”
“They made the right decision to ignore it. If the draw had been even half interesting this sort of tie between two out of form PL sides wouldn't have got a look in.”
And a tie between a stuttering Spurs and a second division Villa is a good pick?
Originally Posted by TLG86:
“And a tie between a stuttering Spurs and a second division Villa is a good pick?”
“And a tie between a stuttering Spurs and a second division Villa is a good pick?”
Not much to choose between the two but there aren't many good picks out there. I suppose Spurs as a big six side swayed it.
Here are (I think) the replays shown in the last two seasons.
2014-15
R3 BT - (West Ham v Everton (BT), Ipswich v Southampton (BBC))
R4 BBC - (Bolton v Liverpool (BBC), Man Utd v Cambridge (BT))
R5 No Replay
R6 BT - (Blackburn v Liverpool (BT), Reading v Bradford (BBC))
2015-16
R3 BBC - (Leicester v Spurs (BBC), Bristol City v West Brom (BT), Liverpool v Exeter (BT))
R4 BT - (West Ham v Liverpool (BT), Peterborough v West Brom (BBC))
R5 BT - (Hull v Arsenal (BT))
R6 BBC - (West Ham v Man Utd (BBC))
It looks like one broadcaster gets R3/R6 and the other gets R4/R5 which makes sense given the probability of replays declines as the competition goes on. So it looks like it's BT that's lost out most on the scrapping of R6 replays (as I think they were due to get first pick of R3/R6 replays this season), so that might explain why they got an extra third round tie. It will be interesting to see if the BBC get a third game in next season's third round.
2014-15
R3 BT - (West Ham v Everton (BT), Ipswich v Southampton (BBC))
R4 BBC - (Bolton v Liverpool (BBC), Man Utd v Cambridge (BT))
R5 No Replay
R6 BT - (Blackburn v Liverpool (BT), Reading v Bradford (BBC))
2015-16
R3 BBC - (Leicester v Spurs (BBC), Bristol City v West Brom (BT), Liverpool v Exeter (BT))
R4 BT - (West Ham v Liverpool (BT), Peterborough v West Brom (BBC))
R5 BT - (Hull v Arsenal (BT))
R6 BBC - (West Ham v Man Utd (BBC))
It looks like one broadcaster gets R3/R6 and the other gets R4/R5 which makes sense given the probability of replays declines as the competition goes on. So it looks like it's BT that's lost out most on the scrapping of R6 replays (as I think they were due to get first pick of R3/R6 replays this season), so that might explain why they got an extra third round tie. It will be interesting to see if the BBC get a third game in next season's third round.
Any chance Cardiff - Fulham or Hull - Swansea will make it a magnificent seven televised games (on BBC Wales or S4C)?
Originally Posted by mattw:
“Any chance Cardiff - Fulham or Hull - Swansea will make it a magnificent seven televised games (on BBC Wales or S4C)?”
“Any chance Cardiff - Fulham or Hull - Swansea will make it a magnificent seven televised games (on BBC Wales or S4C)?”
Swansea I would think..
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