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Old 17-10-2016, 20:09
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I always wondered how broadcasters decide which matches they will show. Is it a case of BBC saying we'll show the Merstham v Oxford match or will they select a few potential live games and then pick one.

On the live games other possibilities are Alfreton/Gateshead v Newport because Newport are struggling at the bottom of league two and could easily slip up, Boreham Wood v Notts County because they lost to Salford last season and that's an awkward fixture and Eastleigh v Swindon because either a team that got to the third round last season will get knocked out or Eastleigh will beat a league team.
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Old 17-10-2016, 20:16
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Are there any TV Saturday games? Merstham only have a capacity of 2000, we took over 1300 to Bolton. So it's going to be hard to get a ticket!
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Old 17-10-2016, 20:19
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Agreed on both counts - especially the latter: how could they win something 14 years before they existed?

(PS - MK Dons don't consider themselves to be the 1988 FA Cup winners; in fact, they now consider themselves to have been founded in 2004.)
You have partial knowledge; the bit you don't know is that they also returned trophies to Wimbledon, so Wimbledon actually has the replica of the 1988 FA Cup - would hardly be the case if they hadn't won it.
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Old 17-10-2016, 20:20
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Are there any TV Saturday games? Merstham only have a capacity of 2000, we took over 1300 to Bolton. So it's going to be hard to get a ticket!
There is normally a 3pm game for international viewers; and there has been extended highlights of that game on BT in the past two seasons.
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Old 17-10-2016, 20:21
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(PS - MK Dons don't consider themselves to be the 1988 FA Cup winners; in fact, they now consider themselves to have been founded in 2004.)
They used to though - and only reconsidered after the Football Supporters Federation urged its members to boycott away trips to MK Dons.
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Old 17-10-2016, 21:13
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BBC hosted the Olympic parade
MOTD2 also on tonight
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Old 18-10-2016, 00:31
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I predict the live TV ties will be the following:

Merstham v Oxford (BBC, Friday 7.55pm)
Eastleigh v Swindon (BT, Saturday 5.30pm or Monday 7.45pm)
Maidstone v Rochdale (ditto)
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Old 18-10-2016, 08:35
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I noticed that; is that the way it's going to be for every round?
Yes, which meant the unusual sight of BT graphics on the BBC, but I wouldn't read too much into it given that, as mentioned...

BBC hosted the Olympic parade
MOTD2 also on tonight
...BBC Sport were probably a bit stretched yesterday.

Hartlepool United v Wrexham/Stanford if Wrexham win. BBC Wales/ S4C will pick it up ... if BBC or BT don't
Newport are also still in the competition, with a more attractive tie with the non-league side at home.
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Old 18-10-2016, 09:27
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You have partial knowledge; the bit you don't know is that they also returned trophies to Wimbledon, so Wimbledon actually has the replica of the 1988 FA Cup - would hardly be the case if they hadn't won it.
AFC Wimbledon aaren't the same club, they don't even play in Wimbledon and should be called AFC Kingston.
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Old 18-10-2016, 09:55
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Actually the first and second round TV picks are frequently dominated by the so-called big teams. So don't be surprised to see the like of Charlton, Portsmouth, Bolton, Sheffield United or Coventry feature irrespective of the "quality" of the opposition or potential interest of the tie in terms of a possible upset.

I seem to recall Nottingham Forest featuring in every round for TV between 1 and 3 a few years back when they were in the League 1 - for a while I thought FA might stand for Forest Again
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Old 18-10-2016, 13:06
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Surprised no ones mentioned Yeovil Vs Solihull Moors.

Yeovil struggling in League 2, Moors mid table in conference premier. Could be a good tie.
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Old 18-10-2016, 13:31
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Merstham may not have good enough floodlights ??
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Old 18-10-2016, 13:56
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The non league v league ties, with the non league teams at home, are as follows:

Southport v Fleetwood
St Albans City v Carlisle
Alfreton or Gateshead v Newport
Boreham Wood v Notts County
Eastleigh v Swindon
Maidstone United v Rochdale
Merstham v Oxford Utd

Any 3 of those 7 ties would be good for TV.

I think BBC will pick Merstham v Oxford United.

BT will pick Eastleigh v Swindon, and Boreham Wood v Notts County.
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Old 18-10-2016, 14:00
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Merstham may not have good enough floodlights ??
I would be very surprised if a club in the Isthmian Premier Division did not have good enough floodlights.
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Old 18-10-2016, 14:17
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Surprised no ones mentioned Yeovil Vs Solihull Moors.

Yeovil struggling in League 2, Moors mid table in conference premier. Could be a good tie.
Some people dont get what the TV companies are looking for, do they? Every year we have this on here
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Old 18-10-2016, 14:34
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I would be very surprised if a club in the Isthmian Premier Division did not have good enough floodlights.
Yes but floodlights for a Live TV game need to be so much better than floodlights to play a Ryman League game
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Old 18-10-2016, 14:36
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Here is one of their stands !!!!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Albury_End.jpg
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Old 18-10-2016, 20:34
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Actually the first and second round TV picks are frequently dominated by the so-called big teams. So don't be surprised to see the like of Charlton, Portsmouth, Bolton, Sheffield United or Coventry feature irrespective of the "quality" of the opposition or potential interest of the tie in terms of a possible upset.

I seem to recall Nottingham Forest featuring in every round for TV between 1 and 3 a few years back when they were in the League 1 - for a while I thought FA might stand for Forest Again
I don't think so, you can look back at the TV fixtures in previous seasons and the only time the "big" clubs have got on is genuinely when they've been playing absolute minnows, like Paulton vs Norwich or Histon vs Leeds. The only other time they've got on is when the draw has been so thin there aren't enough potential giant killings about. Indeed the only time I remember Forest being on TV in the Cup when they were in the lower leagues was in 2007 when they were on away to Chelsea in the fourth round, when there was a dreadful draw with all the big teams at home.

I don't even think Sheffield United, Charlton or Coventry are that big teams in League One, to be honest. Certainly Sheffield United who have been there for ages. If they were that big a draw Sky would be picking them all the time when they show League One but they don't. You can say, oh, they showed Leeds all the time when they were in the lower leagues, but they had a succession of attractive draws - against the tiniest minnows and then against teams like Man U and Spurs. We never had them when they were at home to a non-league team, or away to another League One team.

Merstham may not have good enough floodlights ??
Yes but floodlights for a Live TV game need to be so much better than floodlights to play a Ryman League game
In 2013, BT showed a match from Shortwood United which was supposed to be the tiniest ground that had ever hosted a live game, little more than a roped-off field, and that was an evening kick-off. If you can have evening kick-offs from there, or places like Warrington or Salford which we've had in recent seasons, you can surely do them from anywhere. I know we've had matches kicking off at 1pm for highlights shows for floodlight reasons, but live games are a much bigger production, where they can bring in additional lights.
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Old 18-10-2016, 20:38
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Haven't BBC/ITV/BT/ESPN etc, helped grounds with Floodlights etc, if needs be, or am I talking baloney
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Old 19-10-2016, 08:56
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Haven't BBC/ITV/BT/ESPN etc, helped grounds with Floodlights etc, if needs be, or am I talking baloney
That's what I just said, isn't it?
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Old 19-10-2016, 09:29
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Team from Level 9

Westfields

Teams from Level 8

Stamford
Taunton Town

Teams from Level 7 (Isthmian/Southern/Northern Premier Leagues)

Harrow Borough
Merstham
Chesham United
Spennymoor
Stourbridge

Congratulations to all of the above for making it through to Round One

Most of them had to play at least 4 qualifying rounds, some had 6 !!!
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Old 19-10-2016, 09:34
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Didn't the Westfields chairman say on Monday Night, they started there campaign on August 8, the Premier League sides were still playing pre season friendles
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Old 19-10-2016, 12:36
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I think Eastleigh v Swindon Town is probably the pick of the First Round ties. Eastleigh were the only non-league team to reach the Third Round last season and are hosting a League One side who've had a difficult start to the season on the pitch (great result last night, mind) and have experienced problems off the field recently, too.

So there's at least a fair chance of an upset, there's a two division gap between the clubs yet Eastleigh being a National League club have a ground that is almost certainly of a good enough standard broadcast-wise to stage a live game, while Swindon have one of the bigger followings in the lower leagues. This match would be my first pick.
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Old 19-10-2016, 16:51
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I don't think so, you can look back at the TV fixtures in previous seasons and the only time the "big" clubs have got on is genuinely when they've been playing absolute minnows, like Paulton vs Norwich or Histon vs Leeds. The only other time they've got on is when the draw has been so thin there aren't enough potential giant killings about. Indeed the only time I remember Forest being on TV in the Cup when they were in the lower leagues was in 2007 when they were on away to Chelsea in the fourth round, when there was a dreadful draw with all the big teams at home.
Forest's away game at Salisbury in the second round that season was live on the BBC.
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Old 20-10-2016, 01:07
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Why isn't the FA Cup first round played during the international break weekend? Maybe Sky insist on their window to show a quota of lower league games on these occasions but it's frustrating to see this great publicity opportunity missed every year.
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