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Advice for a dog harness
threecheeses
26-05-2016
Popped on here over a year ago for advice about getting my second dog, took it and got a lovely Jack Russell boy who gets on very well with my little girl Pom/Bichon

Hoping for some advice for his harness. He was fine with a regular harness at first but it seems to be since his 'big boy op' he pulls back on his harness on his walks.
I can find lots of suitable harnesses for dogs that pull forward on the lead but I need one to stop the Houdini Act of pulling back and pulling it all off.

I have most recently tried a non-pull harness but he can pull this back off.
I have also tried a Collar & Harness with a carabiner connecting the two, nope he pulled the harness off and even pulled out of the collar as well, the collar just having the 'two finger' space when tightening.

I have found what looks ideal 'Ruffwear - Webmaster Harness' and this looks absolutely perfect and has many reviews referring to 'Houdini Dogs' saying they can't escape.

This for me would be the last resort for one reason only.....the cost !! £64.95 !!

He is only just over 18 months and not sure if there may be a bit of growing to do, he is a long-legged JR, not the little JR, very stream-limed (I think there may be a bit of whippet somewhere down his family line).

If anyone has had experience of a dog similar to this and found a perfect harness at maybe half the price of the one above (or less) I would really appreciate a recommendation.

Thanks, apologies for long post !
Wolfsheadish
26-05-2016
Must it be a harness? I'm just wondering if a collar would be more effective.
riversmum
26-05-2016
All 3 of our dogs have ruffwear webmaster harnesses and they are brilliant, wouldn't use anything else. They last forever and are worth every penny. I've never known of a dog escaping from one. One of my dogs is very reactive to other dogs and it's worth its weight in gold to know he can't get out of it. The handle on the top is designed to lift them if necessary and it's really useful for our 3 legged greyhound if we need to carry her over a rocks or over a stile etc. It's also really helpful when they get older if they get a bit wobbly and need a hand but of course mine are big enough for me to be able to do that without bending down. Muddy paws often have money off them and if you google the harness you do find them on offer sometimes. I hate walking ours on just a collar now and they walk better on the harness, no pulling.

There is masses of adjustment on them so I wouldn't worry about him growing. My whippet x has a small and the greyhound girls have med and they can wear the others sizes ok in an emergency although his looks a little short on them and theirs is long on him. They're easy to adjust and in winter I just let the straps out a bit and put it on top of their coats.
riversmum
26-05-2016
They're a bit cheaper here with free delivery
https://www.activehound.co.uk/collec...master-harness
Wolfsheadish
27-05-2016
Oh, I see, that kind of harness. I get it now. Those look really good (if expensive) but worth it if it helps your dog.
molliepops
27-05-2016
We have an escaper too, we find this one is best for her http://www.sheilaharper.co.uk/produc...d-harness.aspx it isn't completely escape proof but it takes her a lot longer to wiggle backwards out if it giving us time to stop her doing it, acts as a nice handle on top too if she needs a hand up into the car or out of it.
flashfiction
27-05-2016
Our very experienced dog trainer says not to attempt heel training with a harness. Apparently it just doesn't work.

So at her classes she brings extra leads for owners who have harnessed dogs.
molliepops
27-05-2016
Originally Posted by flashfiction:
“Our very experienced dog trainer says not to attempt heel training with a harness. Apparently it just doesn't work.

So at her classes she brings extra leads for owners who have harnessed dogs.”

I would suggest she has not got the right training regime, Elsie and Betty have never used collars for walking only harnesses and both walk to heal if I ask them to. We did it with treats for Elsie and toys for Betty. I am not a great trainer either so I would worry if a trainer couldn't do it.
riversmum
27-05-2016
Harnesses are actually much better for dogs than collars especially for long necked dogs like mine. Of course you can train in a harness! I don't know why some people don't like them, they are so much better for their necks.
molliepops
27-05-2016
Originally Posted by riversmum:
“Harnesses are actually much better for dogs than collars especially for long necked dogs like mine. Of course you can train in a harness! I don't know why some people don't like them, they are so much better for their necks.”

Completely agree and a good trainer should be able to train without a lead I have seen that done too. I think it's a bit like automatic cars some people refuse to even try one but are actively against them should they be asked.
Armi
27-05-2016
I use an Ezydog harness on my staffie

Easy to put on and take off. Secure. Comfortable.

http://www.ezydog.co.uk/harnesses/
molliepops
27-05-2016
Elsie got out of one of those in no time at all, her backwards wiggle is legendary.
riversmum
27-05-2016
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“Elsie got out of one of those in no time at all, her backwards wiggle is legendary.”

Real escapologists know exactly what to do to get out! Ruffwears are the only one I know are escape proof. Our Sapphy had a lovely figure of 8 fleece lined one which was so easy to get on but she never tried to get out of it, the others would back out of it in seconds!
molliepops
27-05-2016
Originally Posted by riversmum:
“Real escapologists know exactly what to do to get out! Ruffwears are the only one I know are escape proof. Our Sapphy had a lovely figure of 8 fleece lined one which was so easy to get on but she never tried to get out of it, the others would back out of it in seconds!”

We went through many before we found one she can't easily get out of, never realised Labradors could be so lithe and sneaky
threecheeses
28-05-2016
Originally Posted by riversmum:
“They're a bit cheaper here with free delivery
https://www.activehound.co.uk/collec...master-harness”

Thank you for all the replies and suggestions

Thank you riversmum for finding this cheaper as well, I think I will take the plunge then as you also have very similar shaped dogs and I just had a very lucky win on Britain's got talent picking the winning act and won about £40 (I won't mention the winner for those avoiding it) but maybe it was a sign!

Just one more question as he is only 18 months and the measurements are XS up to 22 inches and the small starts at 22 inches which should I get do you think?
He would of course be 22 inches (56cm) exactly !!
riversmum
29-05-2016
My Whippet x is slightly thicker set than pure whippet and is around 21" from base of his neck to the base of his tail and his chest is 24" round the deepest part. He has a small and there is plenty of adjustment both smaller and larger. He weighs around 17 kilos.

The girls, greyhounds both have med and are 26" long, 30" chest and 29 kilos but his will fit them but looks short.

Congratulations on a win! I'd post a pic so you could see how it fits but I don't know how to
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