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Old 27-05-2016, 20:26
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That slap with Carla and the aftermath....we really did see more of the serious, greater character Gail is! Helen Worth was outstanding in those scenes and now with Callum's body uncovered, let's hope we see a lot more serious plots !!
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Old 27-05-2016, 20:59
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Such a better character when Helen Worth is given serious material.
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Old 27-05-2016, 21:01
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One of the few highlights of the week but it was over in a matter of seconds.

I'm really, really, really hoping that Gail goes MENTAL over the body in her manhole and doesn't take any crap from David or Sarah.
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Old 27-05-2016, 21:03
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100% Agree, the strong Gail of old needs to return on a permanent basis.
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Old 27-05-2016, 21:13
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I would like them to explain the drippy, brainless Gail of late as a sort of breakdown post Joe
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Old 27-05-2016, 21:21
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100% Agree, the strong Gail of old needs to return on a permanent basis.
I agree I'm hoping she defends Nick, Sarah and David to other people (like she used to do) but still being the Gail of the past to tell them off when need be which has been seriously absent in recent years.

The Gail of the late 90's and early 2000's wouldn't allow what happened last year with Sarah dating Callum, Bethany's antics and David still calling her by her first name and she wouldn't allow the bullying of Bethany to last as long as it did either she would have stopped it soon as she found out.
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Old 27-05-2016, 21:24
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One of the few highlights of the week but it was over in a matter of seconds.

I'm really, really, really hoping that Gail goes MENTAL over the body in her manhole and doesn't take any crap from David or Sarah.
Unfortunately though I can't see what they will do long term afterwards. Will Gail decide to finally move out and get her own place, or will she remain there and once the Callum thing dies down and is forgotten she will return to being the fool?
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Old 27-05-2016, 21:32
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Unfortunately though I can't see what they will do long term afterwards. Will Gail decide to finally move out and get her own place, or will she remain there and once the Callum thing dies down and is forgotten she will return to being the fool?
Well some people have mentioned on here about the possibility of No.8 being demolished, which seems to be common with homes used to conceal bodies. The reality of that is probably very slim as Corrie wouldn't want to do away with a home the size of No.8.

Anyway, I really think that Gail needs to break away from living with David so that we can see him struggle as a single dad when Kylie leaves but also see Gail adjust to living by herself in her late 50s.

Similarly, it's time that Gail got a proper job, preferably away from the street.
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Old 27-05-2016, 21:37
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This is a compendium of wall-to-wall 'Buffoon Gail' which we have been forced to endure during the past three years or so:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcZ9SRd9eAM

It is absolute, unfathomable trash, every single frame of it. I defy anyone to watch 5 minutes 27 seconds without a strong sense of embarrassment. Who on earth thinks this is better than the complex character that Helen Worth cultivated for THIRTY ODD YEARS prior to this 'development'? And all credit to the actress, but can't the team see that her considerable talents aren't necessarily in the comic field?

Please please can someone sort out this creative and tonal mess. Helen Worth, the viewers and the show itself deserve so much better.

For a quick comparison, here is the 'real' Gail circa 2007:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xs9Nf33jjg&t=3m6s
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Old 27-05-2016, 21:38
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I agree I'm hoping she defends Nick, Sarah and David to other people (like she used to do) but still being the Gail of the past to tell them off when need be which has been seriously absent in recent years.

The Gail of the late 90's and early 2000's wouldn't allow what happened last year with Sarah dating Callum, Bethany's antics and David still calling her by her first name and she wouldn't allow the bullying of Bethany to last as long as it did either she would have stopped it soon as she found out.
I agree with this. Gail had always been a strong willed character and by the time the kids started to grow up I think she fitted the role of soap matriarch very well with her own family. She would fight tooth and nail for her kids but also kept a tight reign on them and wasnt afraid to put them in their place.

I would like to see her force the truth out of David, Sarah and Kylie and demand to know what is going on rather than just find out as an afterthought. It would also be in character to see her trying to take control with Nick and supporting him even when he resented it after Carla's exit, because nobody is good enough for her little Nicky (ironically putting the foot on the other boot after her situation with Ivy and Brian.)

Sadly nine times out of ten, Corrie fails to deliver these days.
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Old 27-05-2016, 21:41
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This is a compendium of wall-to-wall 'Buffoon Gail' which we have been forced to endure during the past three years or so:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcZ9SRd9eAM

It is absolute, unfathomable trash, every single frame of it. I defy anyone to watch 5 minutes 27 seconds without a strong sense of embarrassment. Who on earth thinks this is better than the complex character that Helen Worth cultivated for the THIRTY ODD YEARS prior to this 'development'? And all credit to the actress, but can't the team see that her considerable talents aren't necessarily in the comic field?

Please please comeone sort out this creative and tonal mess. Helen Worth, the viewers and the show itself deserve so much better.

For a quick comparison, here is the 'real' Gail circa 2007:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xs9Nf33jjg&t=3m6s
I have been watching the clips from 2007, very great stuff. There was even an episode where Gail basically humiliated David by forcing him to apologise to Mel Morton next door for making up a story he had an affair with her.

Hard to believe this same character would become the jester of the family and the butt of everyone's jokes.
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Old 27-05-2016, 21:47
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This is a compendium of wall-to-wall 'Buffoon Gail' which we have been forced to endure during the past three years or so:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcZ9SRd9eAM

It is absolute, unfathomable trash, every single frame of it. I defy anyone to watch 5 minutes 27 seconds without a strong sense of embarrassment. Who on earth thinks this is better than the complex character that Helen Worth cultivated for the THIRTY ODD YEARS prior to this 'development'? And all credit to the actress, but can't the team see that her considerable talents aren't necessarily in the comic field?

Please please comeone sort out this creative and tonal mess. Helen Worth, the viewers and the show itself deserve so much better.

For a quick comparison, here is the 'real' Gail circa 2007:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xs9Nf33jjg&t=3m6s
I've just had a very brief skim through that video but from what I can see, aside from the infamous fight with Eileen at the very end, all the clips are from the last couple of years. How does that reprisent the 'highlights' of a character with a rich 40 year history on the show?

The second clip of Gail and David from 2007 is fantastic. This is the Gail that I would love to see back on our screens. I love it when she snaps at him "Dont you dare look relieved"... IIRC the scenes at the hospital were great as well.
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Old 28-05-2016, 01:44
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Really?? I prefer Helen Worth when she's being given light hearted scenes, that make the viewers laugh. I really don't think she's that much of an actress to pull of strong scenes. I just think she's too weak.
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Old 28-05-2016, 20:29
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Really?? I prefer Helen Worth when she's being given light hearted scenes, that make the viewers laugh. I really don't think she's that much of an actress to pull of strong scenes. I just think she's too weak.
It's so funny how different viewes have such divergent opinions. For myself, I can't 'see' the comedic aspects to Helen Worth's recent performances without wincing, but I think her dramatic moments are amazing.

This is the very worst example of 'Buffoon Gail', and it is really because of the tortuous, self-aware acting style:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQpYWeXrT_0
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Old 29-05-2016, 03:13
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It's so funny how different viewes have such divergent opinions. For myself, I can't 'see' the comedic aspects to Helen Worth's recent performances without wincing, but I think her dramatic moments are amazing.

This is the very worst example of 'Buffoon Gail', and it is really because of the tortuous, self-aware acting style:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQpYWeXrT_0

Remember watching the olive scene, found it hilarious,

Here's another scene that yes was a bit cringey but was overall the funniest scene ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYEG5zAHNKc
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Old 29-05-2016, 11:32
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This moment, which makes little dramatic sense and is almost superfluous to the storyline, is a metaphor for the team's derision and contempt for the character of Gail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRmXY_ScEaM
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:20
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Yes she has always been a master of hypocrisy Having a go at Carla for cheating and lying whilst she prevented a father, her husband by the way, from meeting up with his son again before he died and from attending his funeral but yeah having a one night stand and trying to keep that a secret deserves a slap. I wish Carla had called the police on her for assault. Imagine if Michael had walloped her when he found out about her lying. She would have deserved it
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:25
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It's so funny how different viewes have such divergent opinions. For myself, I can't 'see' the comedic aspects to Helen Worth's recent performances without wincing, but I think her dramatic moments are amazing.

This is the very worst example of 'Buffoon Gail', and it is really because of the tortuous, self-aware acting style:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQpYWeXrT_0
I just find that so funny but I agree it's cringey, almost as bad as when Gail sings 'Firework' and 'Black Heart' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljg8iudvnjA

I do like this though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-FurlB5q7k
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:27
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That slap with Carla and the aftermath....we really did see more of the serious, greater character Gail is! Helen Worth was outstanding in those scenes and now with Callum's body uncovered, let's hope we see a lot more serious plots !!
I would have karati kicked her crotch if she did that to me was hoping the carla woman would have

NO the gail woman was NOT outstanding.
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Old 29-05-2016, 15:38
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I can't understand why the writers and producers seem to be intent on making her a comic fool. A character with her history and an actress of Helen's dramatic talent deserve so much better. You could understand it,maybe,if like Sally she had a talent for comedy- but I don't think she does. But,give her something strong and meaty and she's always been one of the Street's finest.
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Old 29-05-2016, 15:55
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Gail is a strong character - the producers need to remember who her influences were in her early life - Audrey - who was a much more vocarious and strong-willed charachter herself back then and Elsie Tanner - a woman whose had those two in her formative years would never become the simpering wreck that Gail has recently, not to mention her mother-in-law was Ivy Tilsey. She's always been surrounding by strong-willed characters and you'd expect her to be the same. I know she played the quieter, saner girl to Susie Birchell when they were together in the show, but the producers to have watched that and decided Gail was a simpering wreck, rather a more sensible strong-women.
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