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Old 29-05-2016, 00:28
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Hehe

I don't begrudge him his win. It's all relative and I didn't vote for anyone so can't complain. But wow, a quarter of a million for that trick.
I agree - he didn't even execute the tricks that well. When he was setting fire to the card he was sort of fumbling around the back of it like a schoolboy doing a magic trick and when he spread the cards at the end to reveal the picture of the soldier, he cocked up the middle section. Extraordinary that he won, but no more extraordinary than it would have been if Wayne had won. Jasmine was my favourite on the night.
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Old 29-05-2016, 01:23
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Jamie Raven must be so annoyed, because he was better and came so close to winning last year. But of course he doesn't have the advantage of being a soldier.
I thought that about Jamie who basically did the same trick in the 10 year thing! Although one isn't born a soldier, it is a choice you make and not usually considered an advantage.

I enjoyed it, hadn't seen magic done that way, I enjoyed the story, the telling, the magic. Yes it was a lot do with the army but the whole story and way it was played out was cute, patriotic & clever. Prehaps it's OK that his talent is not just a bit of magic, but also a little story telling.

I bought into it for a minute and it's ok with me that he won! Although the sword man was my favourite leaps and bounds above all others.
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Old 29-05-2016, 01:28
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I didn't understand it at all. And the cynic in me thinks it's just a way to get people feeling patriotic and vote for him.
Have to agree I really didn't get it, it was nowhere near as good as his semi. Bit suprised he won after that so not sure if I am missing something but the act certainly felt underwhelming to me and he had been my favourite act going into the final.
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Old 29-05-2016, 01:48
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I thought that about Jamie who basically did the same trick in the 10 year thing! Although one isn't born a soldier, it is a choice you make and not usually considered an advantage.

I enjoyed it, hadn't seen magic done that way, I enjoyed the story, the telling, the magic. Yes it was a lot do with the army but the whole story and way it was played out was cute, patriotic & clever. Prehaps it's OK that his talent is not just a bit of magic, but also a little story telling.

I bought into it for a minute and it's ok with me that he won! Although the sword man was my favourite leaps and bounds above all others.
Being a soldier doesn't make you a better magician, though, and it is, or should be, irrelevant in a talent contest.
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Old 29-05-2016, 02:00
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I thought both his audition trick and his semi truck were vastly better than tonight's.

Extremely underwhelming. I did feel like it was a bit playing on the patriotic, especially wheeling out a veteran to do nothing but stand there for a few seconds.

But hey ho, it's no different to Jules playing for the 'ah bless, three legged dog' vote last year. So well done to him.
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Old 29-05-2016, 02:15
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It was laughingly corny. The military band and WW2 veteran had nothing to do with his magic act and wearing his army uniform was rather cheesy.
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Old 29-05-2016, 03:24
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He ripped and burnt the card then made it re-appear in tact again. Pretty much the same as the guy did with the newspaper in the 10yr montage.
I was thinking this too! I like Richard but I felt that Jamie Raven did the trick better with his stage presentation and the newspaper (minus the fire).

Also I heard a few people comparing Ashleigh and Pudsey's performance in the 10 year act to Trip Hazard.

Piers Morgan also tweeted: 'Diversity vs Boogie Storm - like comparing Chateau Latour '61 with Liebfraumilch.'

Although I liked the finalists tonight, when compared to the 10 year act I noticed that this year didn't have much outstanding talent.
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Old 29-05-2016, 07:37
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My son asked why the winner didn't "do his act again - or another trick" when he was announced the winner. Does the BGT winner normally do their act again when the result is announced?
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Old 29-05-2016, 07:41
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My son asked why the winner didn't "do his act again - or another trick" when he was announced the winner. Does the BGT winner normally do their act again when the result is announced?
Somebody asked this on another thread - they have done on some occasions, I remember Paul Potts and George Sampson did... Maybe just the musical winners.
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Old 29-05-2016, 07:52
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It was laughingly corny. The military band and WW2 veteran had nothing to do with his magic act and wearing his army uniform was rather cheesy.
Yes. Was a bit 'mercenary' (if you forgive the pun) the way his military background was exploited.

I suppose it ties in with the issue of the way people who happen to be in the army are still venerated to a frankly bizarre level in modern British society. Despite the massive cynicism around our involvement in the Gulf Wars etc., they are still "Our Boys" and "heroes fighting for Queen and Country". But this 'respect' we have for those who serve in the army is often proved to be notoriously hollow on their return home. The rates of mental health problems, alcoholism and homelessness amongst ex-soldiers in the UK is a scandal.
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Old 29-05-2016, 07:57
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The whole act reminded me of Wink Martindale's 'Deck Of Cards' song, except the punchline at the end wasn't "I am that soldier" it was "Here is that soldier" ....cue Fergus.

The song was considered beyond cheesey back in the '60s.
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Old 29-05-2016, 08:03
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He ripped and burnt the card then made it re-appear in tact again. Pretty much the same as the guy did with the newspaper in the 10yr montage.
The Great Soprendo was doing the newspaper trick 35 years ago on Crackerjack
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Old 29-05-2016, 08:17
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I've just watched the final after being on nights last night. I couldn't believe he won with that act. It was boring, he messed it up, his delivery is terrible and it stunk the way he cynically used the publics strange love of all things military. He is easily the worst winner ever.
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Old 29-05-2016, 08:32
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I can remember watching Americas got talent and seeing a magician there performing exactly the same trick at first audition ( only better) think he won that year.

Also surprised how few people have commented he screwed up the last part where the guys face were on the cards he had to reposition them
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Old 29-05-2016, 08:35
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If he did feel the need to wheel out an old war veteran he could have at least incorporated him into an actual trick. Say he opened a wardrobe or box which was empty and then voila there he is.
And potentially kill the guy off at the same time one hell of a trick that ( sarcasm)
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Old 29-05-2016, 08:37
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Hes a great act and deserved his win imo. How those dreadful shambling storm troopers ever got past the auditions beats me.
Quite right. What he did he was good at. And anyone who thinks it was cheesy or was just done in that way to get sentimentality growing really ought to try doing a magic trick sometime. Magic and illusion takes much longer to master than singing and you encounter failures in a trick before doing it right far more often.

The Great Soprendo was doing the newspaper trick 35 years ago on Crackerjack
Singers on BGT perform songs that someone else does all the time. I notice nothing is said about that.
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Old 29-05-2016, 08:38
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With Brexit referendum coming up in June,

I actually thought that a lot of the show was made to make us feel very Patriotic.

Jenkins started the show off with 'Rule Britannia' and 'Land of Hope and Glory'

There were a lot of Union Jacks shown during the show.

It made me feel good.

The magician using the same theme made it feel inevitable that he was going to win.

Nothing wrong with the feel good factor.

Although I was rooting for Wayne.
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Old 29-05-2016, 08:38
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In the cold light of day, his act was terrible. Basic, almost "grade one" magic that anyone starting out would most likely be able to do, but his decision to exploit the patriotism aspect of his background and wheel out an old soldier was a masterstroke because it worked and won him £250k.
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Old 29-05-2016, 08:41
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With Brexit referendum coming up in June,

I actually thought that a lot of the show was made to make us feel very Patriotic.

Jenkins started the show off with 'Rule Britannia' and 'Land of Hope and Glory'

There were a lot of Union Jacks shown during the show.
What possible reason would ITV or Syco have for getting involved in the EU referendum?
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Old 29-05-2016, 08:42
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I agree - he didn't even execute the tricks that well. When he was setting fire to the card he was sort of fumbling around the back of it like a schoolboy doing a magic trick and when he spread the cards at the end to reveal the picture of the soldier, he cocked up the middle section. Extraordinary that he won, but no more extraordinary than it would have been if Wayne had won. Jasmine was my favourite on the night.
I couldn't believe either of these two in the top two, it blew my mind, Wayne sounded really average at best in my opinion and this was very boring to of won a major talent contest, I can bring on stage a pensioner myself I think and I'm talentless.
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Old 29-05-2016, 09:01
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To be fair I thought Richard's performances in the run up to the final were really good, and I had high hopes for what he might "pull out of the bag" for the grand final - What did we get? A very mediocre card trick disguised by a load of oversentimental tosh. The magician in the compilation of past contestants knocked his performance into a cocked hat - and that guy wasn't even a winner fgs!

Slim pickings this year to be honest...really pleased that the cheeky chappy from Surrey didn't win. If the final was down to pure talent this year then the sword swallower should have won..however, it wasn't an enjoyable watch, or one of the two girls - Preferably Jasmine, as I couldn't take to Beau at all!
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Old 29-05-2016, 09:01
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In the cold light of day, his act was terrible. Basic, almost "grade one" magic that anyone starting out would most likely be able to do, but his decision to exploit the patriotism aspect of his background and wheel out an old soldier was a masterstroke because it worked and won him £250k.
I couldn't agree more!
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Old 29-05-2016, 09:05
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frankly I don't understand this veneration for the army. There are still too many people starving on the streets,many unemployed, who fights for them? The queen? Camilla?
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Old 29-05-2016, 09:12
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I thought both his audition trick and his semi truck were vastly better than tonight's.

Extremely underwhelming. I did feel like it was a bit playing on the patriotic, especially wheeling out a veteran to do nothing but stand there for a few seconds.

But hey ho, it's no different to Jules playing for the 'ah bless, three legged dog' vote last year. So well done to him.
So Jules shouldn't have included a dog in her act because it had the misfortune of having its leg removed? I don't take pity on three legged dogs, if they're still living their lives to the full. How is that in any way the same as revolving your whole act around the fact that you USED yo be a soldier?
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Old 29-05-2016, 09:12
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frankly I don't understand this veneration for the army. There are still too many people starving on the streets,many unemployed, who fights for them? The queen? Camilla?
i dont get it neither

killing people because of what a government tells you, and fighting an enemy with hopelessly inadequate weapons its nothing to be venerated.

WW2 vets yes, current "soldiers" - heck no.
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