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Old 29-05-2016, 08:45
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He tried to frame his own daughter for Lucy's murder

He was also happy to let his own niece rot in jail when he knew she was innocent, just because he wanted to get it on with Stacey.

All this is sort of karma
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Old 29-05-2016, 08:51
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No Max was innocent and it did look like maybe Abi had done it, he also did not want to mention it in the trial.
The Alice thing is bad, but its Alice so who really cares. And she was gonna kill Janine.
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Old 29-05-2016, 09:04
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Stuff karma as that is all nonsense anyway.

Max may have done a lot of pretty sleazy stuff in the past, but he did not murder Lucy, for justice to be served people have to be punished for what they have done not what they haven't, So Bobby needs to be punished for killing Lucy, Jane and Ian for covering up too.
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Old 29-05-2016, 09:29
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see here ... http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2152689

I don't think many feel that sorry for him
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Old 29-05-2016, 09:31
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Because he's a sexy bald stud with a tight ass.
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Old 29-05-2016, 09:32
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He honestly believed at one point that Abi had killed Lucy, and she admitted that she wished she had. When she lied about him in court he forgave her.

Alice planned for months to drug Janine and steal her child...she was no innocent. Nor was she someone Max knew even though they were related. Stacey was more family to him than Alice was.

I'm fine with the idea of karma as long as there are no exceptions...20 years in jail for Jane, Ian, Sharon and Phil would satisfy me no end.
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Old 29-05-2016, 09:33
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I was reading a thread on here from last August yesterday and people couldn't wait to see the back of him.

I think when members see the same 4 or 5 users shouting loud all the time people start to assume this is the general consensus when in actual fact it isn't.
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Old 29-05-2016, 09:39
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He tried to frame his own daughter for Lucy's murder

He was also happy to let his own niece rot in jail when he knew she was innocent, just because he wanted to get it on with Stacey.

All this is sort of karma
IN MY OPINION, OP, the response to Max being locked up for Lucy's murder on here has been driven by 3 factors. Again this is my own opinion and other people may disagree

1 - The vocal group who want to see the Beales - especially Jane - punished. Almost since the reveal, there have been a lot of posts along the lines of Jane being a psychopath and the completely morally bankrupt/ the worst person on the square - ignoring Ronnie (the baby-snatching murderer), Ben (killed Heather, previously tried to kill Jordan, tortured Louise etc), Stacey (murderer and serial homewrecker) and Phi (bully, general criminality, responsible for the deaths of Kevin Wicks, Dennis Rickman and the tramp in the car lot) - for misguidedly trying to protect the son she adored. Max going to prison has given them something to use as another bit of evidence for Jane's evil.
2 - Bad writing. The immediate aftermath of Lucy's death and the Live Week reveals were great and gripping TV. However, Bobby being the killer has resulted in some sub-par writing with characters going against their normal morals to keep the secret and showing no concern about Max's situation. Even now Bobby's confessed, the majority of the residents don't seem to care about Max. Which brings us to
3 - Abi. Ever since Abi started dating Ben, there were been a lot of posts about how she was kidding herself that Ben loved her (despite there being more occasions on screen when Ben assured her that he loved her and was straight) and how they could not understand how Abi have implicated Max to the police and that Abi had a comeuppance due to her and the forum members were looking forward to it. My understanding was that Abi honestly thought it was Max and Max honestly thought it was Abi and each thought they were protecting the other; when Abi found out that Max thought her capable of killing it was the last straw - as she said Max (and Tanya but she's not there to blame) have really screwed up her life. Ben was never blamed for leading her on. Much like with Jane, Max is being used as another stick to beat Abi with
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Old 29-05-2016, 09:40
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Alice planned for months to drug Janine and steal her child...she was no innocent. Nor was she someone Max knew even though they were related. Stacey was more family to him than Alice was.

I'm fine with the idea of karma as long as there are no exceptions...20 years in jail for Jane, Ian, Sharon and Phil would satisfy me no end.
Not months, it was literally a matter of days. And she turned on Michael and confessed all to Janine. Alice was not innocent, but she was naive and was manipulated by a psycopathic monster. She came good in the end.

Max's motives in trying to free Stacey were driven entirely by his penis. He did not give a shit about 'justice'.

I suspect all of those involved in the Bobby cover up will face the music at some point, although there are lots of characters in the show presently that have committed crimes far worse than Ian, Sharon and Phil (Ronnie, Shirley to name just two) but I don't see anyone up in arms about the fact they remain unpunished. I really don't have a massive problem with Max being in jail precisely necause we all knew it was temporary while Jake Wood took a break from the show. They needed a dramatic exit for him so I'm happy to just go with it. He'll be out soon and shagging his way round the Square again.

I was reading a thread on here from last August yesterday and people couldn't wait to see the back of him.

I think when members see the same 4 or 5 users shouting loud all the time people start to assume this is the general consensus when in actual fact it isn't.
Exactly. The turnaround in opinion on here when it comes to Max is astounding. I found him quite entertaining last year, but I'm not really missing him. He is certainly not the martyr people are making him out to be.
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Old 29-05-2016, 09:40
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IN MY OPINION, OP, the response to Max being locked up for Lucy's murder on here has been driven by 3 factors. Again this is my own opinion and other people may disagree

1 - The vocal group who want to see the Beales - especially Jane - punished. Almost since the reveal, there have been a lot of posts along the lines of Jane being a psychopath and the completely morally bankrupt/ the worst person on the square - ignoring Ronnie (the baby-snatching murderer), Ben (killed Heather, previously tried to kill Jordan, tortured Louise etc), Stacey (murderer and serial homewrecker) and Phi (bully, general criminality, responsible for the deaths of Kevin Wicks, Dennis Rickman and the tramp in the car lot) - for misguidedly trying to protect the son she adored. Max going to prison has given them something to use as another bit of evidence for Jane's evil.
2 - Bad writing. The immediate aftermath of Lucy's death and the Live Week reveals were great and gripping TV. However, Bobby being the killer has resulted in some sub-par writing with characters going against their normal morals to keep the secret and showing no concern about Max's situation. Even now Bobby's confessed, the majority of the residents don't seem to care about Max. Which brings us to
3 - Abi. Ever since Abi started dating Ben, there have been a lot of posts about how she was kidding herself that Ben loved her (despite there being more occasions on screen when Ben assured her that he loved her and was straight) and how they could not understand how Abi have implicated Max to the police and that Abi had a comeuppance due to her and the forum members were looking forward to it. My understanding was that Abi honestly thought it was Max and Max honestly thought it was Abi and each thought they were protecting the other; when Abi found out that Max thought her capable of killing it was the last straw - as she said Max (and Tanya but she's not there to blame) have really screwed up her life. Ben was never blamed for leading her on.
Great post! totally agree with 1 in particular. I've started avoiding Beale threads as its now so tedious.
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Old 29-05-2016, 11:44
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It's only a handful of people on here who give a **** if Max ever gets out of prison. The ironic thing is I've seen some of the same people defend the criminal actions of their own favourites while harping on about sending the Beales and Mitchells to prison for framing an "an innocent man" (TM).

Max is a slimey cvnt and got exactly what he deserved for boring the knickers off me for a decade. Too bad he's coming back as I certainly have not missed him. It's actually amusing that some of the same people who used to hate Max are the ones up in arms about justice and karma. Give me a bloody break.
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:00
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two wrongs don't make a right.

Just because he did some bad things in his life, it does not merit going down for a serious crime which he had nothing to do with.
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:04
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He tried to frame his own daughter for Lucy's murder

He was also happy to let his own niece rot in jail when he knew she was innocent, just because he wanted to get it on with Stacey.

All this is sort of karma
I thought his solicitor wanted to use the fact it looked highly like Abi had done it and he was against it until he was more or less forced to as he was clearly going to be found guilty himself. I have no memory of him trying to frame her In fact he kept that he thought she had done it quiet until his hand was forced. Abi on the other

As for his niece there were others that seemed to wash their hands of her too
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:10
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two wrongs don't make a right.

Just because he did some bad things in his life, it does not merit going down for a serious crime which he had nothing to do with.
I agree but I'd sooner lose Max than all the people who framed him. Bringing back a boring played out character and getting rid of the majority of the much better characters just to satisfy a small vocal minority who demand fictional karma/justice for a fictional t-w@t who no one on the show likes or cares about will not benefit EastEnders. It would be pandering to a very small, very loud group of people on this forum. The people who aren't bothered or don't care about Max and his plight and just want to be entertained are fecking sick of listening about "an innocent man" (TM) in every thread. Max is being used primarily as a stick to beat the characters "The Justice League" don't like such as Jane, Philth, Sharon, Ian, etc.

Same shit, different day.
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:12
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I don't know why the Alice stuff is being used as a reason why max deserves to be framed..

Alice was highly involved in the Michael/Janine stuff but let's not forget that Janine couldn't in all conscience let someone who was innocent go down for murder regardless of the fact Alice had been happy to help Michael kill Janine.

Janine has a much higher moral compass than Ian or Jane.

I liked Ian Beale prior to the Bobby cover up but whatever Max has done in the past is irrelevant to this. He does not deserve to be in jail for murder

Everyone in EE has done questionable stuff. By the karma logic they should all be locked up.

I don't want Ian gone from the show so if there is justice is be happy to see him get a light sentence as Adam is great. However it still needs to happen imo.
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:17
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I don't know why the Alice stuff is being used as a reason why max deserves to be framed..

Alice was highly involved in the Michael/Janine stuff but let's not forget that Janine couldn't in all conscience let someone who was innocent go down for murder regardless of the fact Alice had been happy to help Michael kill Janine.

I liked Ian Beale prior to the Bobby cover up but whatever Max has done in the past is irrelevant to this. He does not deserve to be in jail for murder

Everyone in EE has done questionable stuff. By the karma logic they should all be locked up.
It was Alice who told Janine about Michael's plan to kill her. She couldn't have been that happy about it if she put a stop to it.

Excuses, excuses (IMO). Max had it coming. If this was a loved character on and off screen like Dot or a nice character like Alice no one would stand for it. Just look at the damage it did to Kat when she supported Janine's attempt to frame Alice. Because it's Max the characters on the show and the viewers at large don't care. I'm still waiting for that "Free The Walford One" campaign to begin
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:24
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It's only a handful of people on here who give a **** if Max ever gets out of prison. The ironic thing is I've seen some of the same people defend the criminal actions of their own favourites while harping on about sending the Beales and Mitchells to prison for framing an "an innocent man" (TM).

Max is a slimey cvnt and got exactly what he deserved for boring the knickers off me for a decade. Too bad he's coming back as I certainly have not missed him. It's actually amusing that some of the same people who used to hate Max are the ones up in arms about justice and karma. Give me a bloody break.
Ah he 'bored the knickers off you?' Well you're quite right, he deserved to be jailed for a murder he didn't commit then....
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:26
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So Max has had a few affairs so what?

You would be very hard pressed to find someone in Walford who hasn't!

At least he is not a murderer, rapist or someone whose crimes would take aeons to list like for example the Philth.

I hope he comes out of the nick like a bloody avenging angel but even if he does the poison potato will escape totally unscathed - he always does.

On that subject Mitchell looks fantastic for someone with only a few months to live - then again he did grow a new heart so anything is possible.
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:26
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Ah he 'bored the knickers off you?' Well you're quite right, he deserved to be jailed for a murder he didn't commit then....
He's not real, Paul.
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:26
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Ah he 'bored the knickers off you?' Well you're quite right, he deserved to be jailed for a murder he didn't commit then....

I don't think removing knickers with Max would be boring lol
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:30
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I don't know why the Alice stuff is being used as a reason why max deserves to be framed..

Alice was highly involved in the Michael/Janine stuff but let's not forget that Janine couldn't in all conscience let someone who was innocent go down for murder regardless of the fact Alice had been happy to help Michael kill Janine.

Janine has a much higher moral compass than Ian or Jane.

I liked Ian Beale prior to the Bobby cover up but whatever Max has done in the past is irrelevant to this. He does not deserve to be in jail for murder

Everyone in EE has done questionable stuff. By the karma logic they should all be locked up.

I don't want Ian gone from the show so if there is justice is be happy to see him get a light sentence as Adam is great. However it still needs to happen imo.
Agreed.. Some characters are coming out of the Bobby stuff very badly and are being criticised for it. So rear guard defence in play. Use karma as justification for an innocent man being in prison for murder. The whole thing is a bloody mess. Little more than a year ago Bobby Beale was an extra with a new head yet we've had long term characters being damaged in the 'save Bobby' campaign.
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:39
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He's not real, Paul.
Curiously I'm aware of that. But in the context of the storyline if the best people have got is 'Max bores the knickers off me so he deserves to rot in prison' we're on a very slippery slope....
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:40
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I have to laugh. The last time Philth was locked up Max went to the prison and gloated about how he was going to take his business from him. Personally I thought it was hilarious and I briefly enjoyed Super Bitch Max. But there were people taking the whole thing so seriously and celebrating the fact Phil finally got the karma he deserved for all his previous unpunished crimes. Now those same people are part of the vocal minority who are saying Max doesn't deserve to go to prison for a crime he didn't commit haha!
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:41
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Curiously I'm aware of that. But in the context of the storyline if the best people have got is 'Max bores the knickers off me so he deserves to rot in prison' we're on a very slippery slope....
That isn't all we've got though is it? There's another thread on here where the reasons people feel no sympathy for Max were discussed in depth. It's linked in a post above if you want to read it.
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Old 29-05-2016, 12:42
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two wrongs don't make a right.

Just because he did some bad things in his life, it does not merit going down for a serious crime which he had nothing to do with.
I fully agree - Max should never have been convicted.

However, I also don't think that the fact he has been locked up should be used as a tool to attack other characters especially as he has been involved in this sort of story before - remember when Tanya took the blame for Lauren attempting to deliberately run Max down?

At least Bobby didn't mean to kill Lucy ( what he did to Jane is a whole other matter).
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