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Old 29-05-2016, 18:54
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I would have liked to have seen beau 100 voices of gospel or the jazz singer guy win.
I feel like he was average not as good as Jamie from last year if he hadn't been wearing an army uniform and turned up in regular clothes would he have won?.
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Old 29-05-2016, 19:28
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I would have liked to have seen beau 100 voices of gospel or the jazz singer guy win.
I feel like he was average not as good as Jamie from last year if he hadn't been wearing an army uniform and turned up in regular clothes would he have won?.
Yes ... I was ready to vote for him after voting him in the semi finals( he wasn't wearing a uniform to do his tricks and still won the public vote) he was on 2 nd last night with 10 other acts to follow. and still won all Cowell's " favourites" who were given the pimp spots..
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Old 29-05-2016, 19:53
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IMO no.

The magic part of the act was average and clumsy.

He only won because of the sentimental slush in his act. ie; the war hero stuff!
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Old 29-05-2016, 20:10
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I would have liked to have seen beau 100 voices of gospel or the jazz singer guy win.
I feel like he was average not as good as Jamie from last year if he hadn't been wearing an army uniform and turned up in regular clothes would he have won?.
Yes absolutely he was a worthy winner . Very proud.
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Old 29-05-2016, 20:12
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IMO no.

The magic part of the act was average and clumsy.

He only won because of the sentimental slush in his act. ie; the war hero stuff!
The 'sentimental slush' as you rudely say IS a bloody hero and keeping you safe. And has another talent. Christ almighty!
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Old 29-05-2016, 20:20
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IMO he won the semi partly because of the VT at the beginning saying he was a soldier - and he realised this, and played up to it.

I liked his audition & semi act, but he was dire in the final - a clunky, old fashioned trick which he muffed. He won because of the patriotism.
Yes, Twinkle Toes - he is a hero, and is keeping us safe; and I respect and thank him for that. However this was not a "Britain's got Soldiers" competition. It was "Britain's got Talent".
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Old 29-05-2016, 20:21
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Yes absolutely he was a worthy winner . Very proud.
What was worthy about an average performance,
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Old 29-05-2016, 20:27
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The 'sentimental slush' as you rudely say IS a bloody hero and keeping you safe. And has another talent. Christ almighty!
What a load of utter bollocks.
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Old 29-05-2016, 20:32
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The 'sentimental slush' as you rudely say IS a bloody hero and keeping you safe. And has another talent. Christ almighty!
I think the point is that the fact he's a soldier should have no bearing on his actual act whatsoever. He should be judged on his magic performance on the night.

A good 80% of his act in the final was related to him being a soldier and not him demonstrating a great magic trick.

We only saw the final this year, so had no previous opinions on him either way. We were somewhat confused as to what his act was meant to be by the time he finished.
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Old 29-05-2016, 20:40
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Of course he deserved to win! Didn't you see his VT? He's one of our brave boys, fighting for queen and country, putting his life on the line so that we can be free. Just like the old chap he made magically appear (from behind a curtain) did 70 years ago. Makes you proud to be British. Rule Britannia, god save the queen and boo sucks to the hairy Hun!!

(OK, so his actual act was a load of pants but what's that got to do with anything...)
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Old 29-05-2016, 20:41
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Not in my opinion. I found his presentation rather amateurish and his tricks were certainly unoriginal. He surely did play on his military connections to gain votes, too.
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Old 29-05-2016, 22:03
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Not in my opinion. I found his presentation rather amateurish and his tricks were certainly unoriginal. He surely did play on his military connections to gain votes, too.
And didn't any of the other contestants use hard luck stories to win votes? I saw plenty of that.I thought he was a really nice unassuming young man .
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Old 30-05-2016, 09:31
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im glad that a dog act/dancegroup/child singer didnt win for a change i voted for him ,,about time we had something different.im sure the queen will enjoy his act,
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Old 30-05-2016, 09:34
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The 'sentimental slush' as you rudely say IS a bloody hero and keeping you safe.
You are off topic but i will reply.

he is NOT a hero, and he is NOT keeping me safe

it is the opposite, the actions of the UK army is actually making us a target.

Voluntary/ enscripted soldiers in WW2 fighting in trenches against a powerful german army, THEY are heroes.
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Old 30-05-2016, 09:40
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based only on the cheap card trick of the final, no he didn't. but considering all his performances it's not a scandal that he won against that Wayne and the stormtroopers
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Old 30-05-2016, 09:50
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based only on the cheap card trick of the final, no he didn't. but considering all his performances it's not a scandal that he won against that Wayne and the stormtroopers
including the other performance he copied from americas got talent?

its like a commedian coming on and using the same jokes as jack carroll, that wouldnt be allowed so why did this so caled magician get away with it?
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Old 30-05-2016, 09:58
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based only on the cheap card trick of the final, no he didn't. but considering all his performances it's not a scandal that he won against that Wayne and the stormtroopers
have to disagree didnt think the storm troopers were very good at all
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Old 30-05-2016, 10:06
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I wanted Jasmine to win (because she is daughter's friend), also liked Alex (he would do anything to win - loved that attitude), but Richard told a great story. I'm not English, but proud be someone living here for several decades (and British!)
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Old 30-05-2016, 10:12
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The 'sentimental slush' as you rudely say IS a bloody hero and keeping you safe. And has another talent. Christ almighty!
No one forces anyone in to the services now and they get well paid and most aren't in any danger. I don't get this over sentimentality for our armed forces members. His audition and semi were much better.
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Old 30-05-2016, 10:42
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And didn't any of the other contestants use hard luck stories to win votes? I saw plenty of that.I thought he was a really nice unassuming young man .
I'm sure most of them did in their VT's, but I don't remember any of them basing the entire act around it.
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Old 30-05-2016, 11:10
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have to disagree didnt think the storm troopers were very good at all
it's what i said, if they are on the podium it's not a scandal that richard won. If diversity were on that would be different of course, he was lucky to be in a very average series
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Old 30-05-2016, 11:41
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I'm surprised how many people I've seen that are conveniently forgetting he was fave to win before the final.
Barring any mishaps or someone else stealing the show, I thought he was a pretty obvious winner. This fallout is making the result more entertaining than it was.

including the other performance he copied from americas got talent?

its like a commedian coming on and using the same jokes as jack carroll, that wouldnt be allowed so why did this so caled magician get away with it?
Not a great comparison as it just highlights the fact that he brought these tricks to people who likely hadn't seen them before.
I think someone would have noticed if he'd done the same routine as someone else on BGT.

The other magician should have copyrighted them or something if they are his.
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Old 30-05-2016, 11:47
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I think someone would have noticed if he'd done the same routine as someone else on BGT.
and yet the facts and youtube videos show it

its the same routine
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Old 30-05-2016, 13:02
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Loved the audition and the semi-final, but his final performance didn't appeal to me.

It probably appealed more to a certain generation, as my mum thought he was great. As soon as she watched his performance, she was SURE that he would win. There were other acts she liked (like Jasmine and Wayne), but she was SURE that the magician would win the show. I'd much rather have seen more magic tricks, TBH.
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Old 30-05-2016, 13:14
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He wouldn't have been my choice - but I can't say that means he didn't deserve to win. I don't like more speciality acts& prefer singers, but looking through this forum, a lot of people have the opinion that the musical acts should be on X Factor rather than BGT. Nobody's right or wrong just different views
However, I don't think Richard's win should mean the forces as a whole are slated (which seems to be how this thread is going). I don't like magicians - nothing more than that.
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