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Jay McGuiness and Aliona Vilani appreciation thread - Part 6
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Toasted Toad
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by speedtrap:
“BIB Speaking of which, I am intrigued to discover what these major changes are for the upcoming series...any lessons learned I wonder.

I suspect Ali's disappointment was compounded by her feeling that she may have let Jay down but, as a professional, those remarks must have been more than cuttng.”

Sounds to me like the big changes are just new pros - after all, they've lost Kristina, Aliona, Ola and Tristan.

I do hope the show doesn't follow in the wake of Dancing with the Stars, making it increasingly irrelevant to its original premise (i.e. celebs learning ballroom and latin).

ETA: Do you think there might be new fudges? I seem to remember hearing a lot of whispers about some of them wanting to resign as not getting on behind the scenes. But one never knows how reliable gossip is - it can be completely without foundation.
Toasted Toad
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by Lindy_Loue:
“Hi TT
When I open it, it says 93 views, if that's any help. It looks absolutely fantastic, but as usual I can't get it all to appear on my iPad, so will have to wait to look on the laptop tomorrow.....
Looks brilliant , thank you so much xx”

Thanks! Just opened it again, and it's finally showing some views for the album (141), although each individual photo still reads zero!
hannah 01.
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“Thanks! Just opened it again, and it's finally showing some views for the album (141), although each individual photo still reads zero!”

I think I may have missed you TT.

But your Flickr pics are great. I am one of the 141 BUT I have looked at each individual pic as well so I can't say why it says zero. Vagaries of technology
Toasted Toad
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“I think I may have missed you TT.

But your Flickr pics are great. I am one of the 141 BUT I have looked at each individual pic as well so I can't say why it says zero. Vagaries of technology”

Now up to 229 views but the most any individual photo has had is one (and that's only just now!). Maybe it had a problem with a 100 photo album? But that's not exactly huge. I'm sure others have much larger ones.
hannah 01.
02-06-2016
For DD

There once was a fudge called the Grinch
Who couldn't be nice in a pinch
He hums and he haws
While he sharpens his claws
He couldn't be trusted an inch


crh playing the part in panto. Don't know what year though.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...23_634x961.jpg

http://balletnews.co.uk/wp-content/u...-2-700x466.jpg
hannah 01.
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“Now up to 229 views but the most any individual photo has had is one (and that's only just now!). Maybe it had a problem with a 100 photo album? But that's not exactly huge. I'm sure others have much larger ones.”

I've just looked again and pics I know I have looked at more than once are only saying 1 view or the first pic that I hadn't looked at separately says two viewings. So I am completely confused.

Anyway I must away to my bed as I've just realised I've got to be up at 6.00am. Oops
Toasted Toad
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“I've just looked again and pics I know I have looked at more than once are only saying 1 view or the first pic that I hadn't looked at separately says two viewings. So I am completely confused.”

I've got no idea how this sort of thing is counted anyway. Do they only count one view per user, or does it get counted each time someone looks at the picture again, or whatever. Anyway, it just gives me a general idea that someone is looking at the album!
hannah 01.
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“I've got no idea how this sort of thing is counted anyway. Do they only count one view per user, or does it get counted each time someone looks at the picture again, or whatever. Anyway, it just gives me a general idea that someone is looking at the album!”

Oh yes we are definitely looking. They recall such vivid memories.

Night for now

PS I've bookmarked mine. Does that make a difference? ?
Toasted Toad
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“Oh yes we are definitely looking. They recall such vivid memories.

Night for now

PS I've bookmarked mine. Does that make a difference? ?”

Not a clue! But I'm glad you're enjoying the memories anyway.
RaffertyCat
02-06-2016
It has to be said, that the words on this thread
Are just great, be they verse or review.
I'm very impressed,
And just feel so blessed
To have found it, and joined in with you.

But there's more we can view, to give it it's due,
That adds to the infinite variety.
There are vids, links and pics,
And gifs of Jay's licks,
That's 'goodbye' to all sense of propriety.

To be fair, there is more than dry lips to explore,
The gifs offer moments that move.
They are pictures to treasure,
Or fun beyond measure.
Such pleasure. Who could fail to approve?

Still more, I might add, and it's happy and sad,
That's the news that our sistas may bring.
Of course all the bro's
Who may wish to disclose,
Are most welcome, this thread's great for sharing.

It's more often the case, that the news we embrace
Is Jaynews, that's, of course, if there is some.
But it's often a crawl
More so, nothing at all,
Then a BIG one may drop, and that's awesome.

Opinions may flow, back and forth, on the go,
The life-blood of the thread, you might say.
They're so lovely to see,
And they're how you and me
Can keep it all going.....Interplay.

By using the net, we can trawl and we get
Some Jaygems from way back in the day.
They may be historic,
Or his rise meteoric
On Strictly, or up to today.

I expect you can see, what my difficulty
Would be in attempting a tweet.
The limit, you see,
Would simply floor me.
Use one-forty letters? How sweet!

"That's too short!", I would wail, I simply would fail.
How does everyone manage? I wonder.
Though I like a good read
And get through them at speed,
If I tried to write one, I'd blunder.

Still, back to this thread, while it's still in my head,
I will bring this ode to a close.
With appreciation
And admiration,
To all who contribute..........* a rose.*
Amelia_Manon
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“Hey Speedy - they were so unsure, weren't they? It's not the final final announcement as it were. This is the elimination after the showdance. Their expressions before the final result were so similar though that I didn't post a second screencap!

Does anyone know why Flickr might not be showing me a viewcount for this album? It's all showing zero, so unless everyone is merely pretending they've looked at it, I'm guessing at least one person has visited!”

Just to let you know that I have visited the album in question and enjoyed it very much. Thank you for putting it together. I appreciate all of your work, TT.

I appreciate everyone's work on this thread. Thank you all so much!
RaffertyCat
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“Hey Speedy - they were so unsure, weren't they? It's not the final final announcement as it were. This is the elimination after the showdance. Their expressions before the final result were so similar though that I didn't post a second screencap!

Does anyone know why Flickr might not be showing me a viewcount for this album? It's all showing zero, so unless everyone is merely pretending they've looked at it, I'm guessing at least one person has visited!”

BIB Hi TT. Thought I'd let you know that I've viewed every picture in your brilliant album. Thank you. I don't know how to 'bookmark' it, so I've 'Saved to Favourites', as usual. My elastic-sided Favourites bag is getting really unwieldy. Do you think it might burst at some point? I hope not. This thread's in it.
nelliek
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by fridgesoup:
“
Just to s[w]erve briefly back on topic , jnb - can't wait to hear who'll be appearing with Jay in BIG. Anyone fancy a guess?

Ticket sales for the first night still looking slow 😬 (but midweek much healthier).”

Originally Posted by Lindy_Loue:
“Remind me, when is the BIG first night??

ETA Found it 5 Nov....maybe it's the fact it's Guy Fawkes that's slowed things up? Dates after that look good, considering there's not a huge lot of publicity surrounding it, as far as I know, anyway.....”

Not only is it just Guy Fawkes night, but Plymouth has a big (sorry ) firework show on the Hoe, and one site I saw warns people that parking will be difficult.
I don't think this is the website I originally saw but it gives you an idea of what's going on for one night only as opposed to six nights.
http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/homepage/...nightevent.htm
As someone else said perhaps ticket sales for the 5th are also slow-ish because it's the first night and people are hedging their bets in case things don't go smoothly that night. On the other hand how exciting to be there on opening night.
speedtrap
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“Sounds to me like the big changes are just new pros - after all, they've lost Kristina, Aliona, Ola and Tristan.

I do hope the show doesn't follow in the wake of Dancing with the Stars, making it increasingly irrelevant to its original premise (i.e. celebs learning ballroom and latin).

ETA: Do you think there might be new fudges? I seem to remember hearing a lot of whispers about some of them wanting to resign as not getting on behind the scenes. But one never knows how reliable gossip is - it can be completely without foundation.”

Hope it doesn't go the way of DWTS.
Different Pros will inevitably bring a different flavour but regarding the fudges, I have wondered why it is crh that has been taking a leading role during the break...up there to receive awards and the one in the press dropping hints. Where's Uncle Len??? Fingers crossed for a different selection of fudge...my favourite is rum n raisin
Toasted Toad
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by speedtrap:
“Hope it doesn't go the way of DWTS.
Different Pros will inevitably bring a different flavour but regarding the fudges, I have wondered why it is crh that has been taking a leading role during the break...up there to receive awards and the one in the press dropping hints. Where's Uncle Len??? Fingers crossed for a different selection of fudge...my favourite is rum n raisin ”

Can anyone remember when we first started doing reviews? I'd quite like to go back to see some of the early ones
fridgesoup
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“Can anyone remember when we first started doing reviews? I'd quite like to go back to see some of the early ones”

Early January (launch/week1/week2) and then the reviews went on hiatus to make time for tour talk.

Great photo album TT
nelliek
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“Can anyone remember when we first started doing reviews? I'd quite like to go back to see some of the early ones”

I'm not sure if we started them just before or just after the SCD Tour.
Fred probably has all our homework detailed, so we should perhaps wait for her.
Though I do have some of the posts bookmarked.
(Frantically scrabbles through about 100 bookmarks in the Jay and Aliona folder. )

Well, call me a liar! Review week for the pairing and the cha-cha began 8 January (in part3!!), so way before the tour began.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=4237
and three posts later
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=4240

Waltz - no links to Fred's post
TT's (belated) screencaps/review for the waltz
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=2415

Jive (in part 4 of the thread) (26 February)
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=9052
TT's screencaps/review for the jive
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=2743

Quickstep (4 March)
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...ostcount=10328

Paso (part 5) (11 March)
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...&postcount=727

American Smooth - No link from Fred bookmarked (hangs head in shame!)

Argentine tango (25 March)
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=3176
TT's screencaps/review for the AT
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=3418

Foxtrot (1 April)
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=4618
TT's screencaps/review for the foxtrot
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=4633

Salsa (8 April)
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=5720
TT's screencaps for the salsa
https://www.flickr.com/photos/138930...7666785908982/

Tango (15 April)
only have a link to TT's photos - don't even have the review to go with it.

Rumba (22 April)
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=7580

VW (29 April)
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=8605

I need to spend the rest of the morning sorting my bookmarks into (alpha) order.

Just remembered that Fred posted the review links on a Friday, so I've put the relevant dates besides the links.
Lola the cat
02-06-2016
Just found this video - it's TW singing For The First Time from the R1 Live Lounge performance but set to pictures of J so if you don't like the scary make-up of the LL performance you can watch J instead

https://youtu.be/Ln4jiuJNy88
Toasted Toad
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by nelliek:
“Well, call me a liar! Review week for the pairing and the cha-cha began 8 January (in part3!!), so way before the tour began.”

You're a star! Thanks for all the links - I'm sure it'll be easy to root around them to find the rest of the reviews. I'm thinking of doing a collation (not sure I'll have the time, but if I do, I'll prepare a first draft then perhaps people can chip in if I've left them out)
StrictlyRed
02-06-2016
Morning all!

Wow, a lot happening overnight with poems, reviews and Speedy's mega-update post!

danceagogo - Your review was a lovely read with my early morning Earl Grey!

I quite like KFG, but I'm with you in not feeling sorry that he hasn't won despite being in 3 finals, because.....he's been in 3 finals......he's been on the show for 3 years and made the final every time. It took Anton 13 series to get there, and some of them don't get there at all!

hannah and RaffertyCat - more terrific poetry. Thank you.

Speedy - Good points made on why it was a good thing that we didn't get a final jive. Some of those hadn't really registered with me before. Hair and make up had all day to get the look right for week 3 with hair extensions, but in a busy final?

I wonder if the judges would have been kinder with their comments though, knowing that the jive was coming up?

TT - I've just had another look at your 100 pics, and it's showing a view count of 260 now. I don't know about the individual pics though, because on my iPad they all come up as one continuous roll which I scroll down through, and I can't see any numbers or labels, which I think you mentioned before?
jayfan
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“Danceagogo and Speedy

Wonderful posts and reviews. Thank you for such lovely reading

😉”

Seconded- great way to start the day reading them

Hannah - great poems, no stopping you now

Rafferty - another great poem

Korky - thanks for posting the waltz gifs

Waves to Amelia

Have a good day everyone
hannah 01.
02-06-2016
Good morning all

Thanks jayfan but my brain exploded doing those so.........

https://calicointransition.files.wor...dumb.jpg?w=656
Fred.
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“Can anyone remember when we first started doing reviews? I'd quite like to go back to see some of the early ones”

Have them all saved for the 'Amnesty Week' homework so will post the links to them all :

Amnesty Week homework Idea is to put a few weeks together plus any Group dances and interviews for those weeks.
So can submit new homework if missed it first time, or late homework, or to add a bit more or say something different. All if people want to - it's a free thread


3 June Pairing Up, Week 1 to Week 4 - plus group dances

10 June Week 5 to to Week 9 Salsa - plus group dances

17 June Week 10 to Final and Red Button - plus any interviews from after the Final.

24 June, 1 July will re-post the Strictly Tour clips - courtesy of spreeathen - and any interviews from the Tour onward


If J and hopefully A aren't popping up to promote Keep Dancing, new Strictly and Big the Musical by then, I'll eat my hat - metaphorically speaking - I'm not Gary Linekar


Thanks for the links nelliek

TT collection sounds good

BB hope the muse returns

*Waves* to Amelia and others who have popped in

Thanks for the updates and poems and links overnight
Isih
02-06-2016
Sorry for random methods of replying/appreciating, hope it's not too annoying

Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“As I've have been refused my latest Jayjob applications and am consequently running a bit low on them I am wondering if I may be Curator of the Jayewellery. I would look after his bracelets and other wrist thingies and earrings and any more body jewellery which may lurk underneath his clothes. ”

I can't think offhand of any clashes there, so could be! New word, too. And should this be a subdivision of dresser or would you like it to be separate?

Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“?????”

more phrases for the phudge? BTW, everyone, I started collecting the phrases that describe Jay (slinky mcsupple etc, mostly, I think BB and Korky) but can't find them now. Anyone remember them?

Originally Posted by DeiseDays:
“Oh, so that's where he stuck his thumb ...”

I suddenly thought of Buffy and the finger in the duck

Originally Posted by danceagogo:
“Final Review - or maybe that should say Review of Final!!

Have missed a few weeks, so thought I'd do it as an overview - probably more of a reflective rambling one as opposed to a technical analysis, but I'll try for coherency.😊

AFTERMATH THOUGHTS

Waiting for the actual announcement was murder.
The last time I was as invested in a result was Mattiona.
Loved Matt and Aliona as much, although Jay is a better dancer.
Thought they also got on very well as a couple. He was happily married, with a great work ethic, same as Aliona this year with Vincent.
No conflict.
Voted like mad.
I was so disappointed Matt lost, but not disappointed that Kara won.
Whereas I would have been very disappointed if either of the the 2 double initials had won.

I don't feel the same sorrow about Kevin's missed finals' triumphs.
He's been in 3 finals because he's had 3 good partners.
Who else has had 3 in a row?

Aliona was quite honest and straightforward about her success (although it also was her excellent instruction which triumphed)
In some ways now, I could almost welcome the 'calibre' of her last 3 partners as she would never have been partnered with Jay otherwise, and think what we would have missed!!

Probably wittered enough.

If I did have other thoughts, they will be left for posterity.

This series and that partnership was definitely the best too much ever.

TT - accessed Flick'r at last. Great job💃

FRED - My thanks also for all your work👏
”

Agree with your afterthoughts (among other things, of course)



Originally Posted by speedtrap:
“
Been absent for a few days, trying to catch up, apologies for not acknowledging every post but here are some of my responses...sorry, this may take a while...by which time a good few of you will be tucked up in bed.

Ah well, cue tumbleweed.

In no particular order but...
First... a discussion between TT and Cat mainly, re Jive/no Jive final.
I said at the time that I completely trusted Jay and Aliona's decision to leave out the Jive from the final.
. Can you imagine That Jive with godawful singing, poor camera work and, I don't know, a laughable wig (tour version)?? Poof, and the magic of the week 3 night is, well, besmirched.
I think that was a bullet well dodged.

A very good point


For those who appreciate literary prowess and a healthy interest in reading I thought you might like a glimpse into Jay's library and a small example of his own creative writing from way back when.
First, a clip including some of Jay's reading from when he had to pack for leaving (be quick...):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2T7-mHLmT4 01:45 ...and yeah, he can read sheet music!!
Next, another glimpse of his bookcase via pics incorporated in a little piece written by Jay in the voice of Neytiri:
http://www.sugarscape.com/celebs/new...jay-mcguiness/
Then, a lovely clip of Jay relating to youngsters... he'd make a great educator:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HDkaMKU_RY 02:59

And in the packing video we got to learn that sometimes the old phones do turn up!

Jnb I don't think there was really a reason for Jay's emotional outpouring other than the situation. Heart Vacancy girls were always such a random choice, on this occasion they were rather weepy emotional beings and I think Jay got caught up in the moment. Lovely to see other HV girls wanting a JayHug after the song finished...who in their right mind wouldn't

He's such an empath, isn't he? thanks for this
”

Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“Four of them sat on the panel
The public vote they tried to channel
Away from our true dancing pair
Until they got the Paddington Stare
To show he wasn't taking any flannel

The Grinch and the Grump
The Dancer and the Chump
The fudging 4 were not averse
To make their comments rude and terse
But t'was to no avail as their plan went bump”

Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“For DD

There once was a fudge called the Grinch
Who couldn't be nice in a pinch
He hums and he haws
While he sharpens his claws
He couldn't be trusted an inch


crh playing the part in panto. Don't know what year though.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...23_634x961.jpg

http://balletnews.co.uk/wp-content/u...-2-700x466.jpg”

Hannah - you cracked!

Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“Good morning all

Thanks jayfan but my brain exploded doing those so.........

https://calicointransition.files.wor...dumb.jpg?w=656”

BigSis and I in hysterics over this one. I might even try to print it out as it so beautifully expresses how we often feel
speedtrap
02-06-2016
Some thoughts I missed out last night.

Re rebellion...that's always been an attraction for me and the signs were there in Strictly from the get go. TT, so glad you included 'stay back spray tan' in your compilation, for me that was a healthy sign that Jay was going to be his own man and also reminded me of a TW rebellion. Back when the band went to the US their new American management team placed a ban on alcohol, caffeine and all dairy, including cheese. So the boys promptly ordered a crate of beer, multiple cheese pizzas and coffees/teas to their dressing room and demolished the lot

Back to SCD, I'd have loved to be a fly on the wall in wardrobe each week...I wonder how long it took for the penny to drop that Jay was in charge and no amount of cajoling would tempt him towards chesticle exposure, or dayglo sparkles. If anything, he went the opposite way with buttoned up shirts and multiple layers of shirts, waistcoats and jackets

Oh, that also reminds me...and forgive me if this has been said but I'm not a Whovian and have skipped posts relating to Dr Who. Anyway, did you know Jay once said he felt like a time travelling Time Lord, named 'Upsilon'?

Finally, I won't be sharing details here, but I had my first Jay dream last night. Today's going to be a good day...the smile hasn't left my face.

Enjoy your day everyone
X

ETA FYI...we've already had 12k views on this part of the thread....
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