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Thanks everyone, it shouldn't be too bad- although I'm sure I would do a lot better if the subject of the exam was Jay's time on Strictly (or to be honest, just strictly in general)
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Hi Everyone.
Blimey - I am so far behind. My laptop gave up the ghost on me - and I lost absolutely everything! All my music and dances [Jaliona, of course]. I am having to start from scratch - I didn't back anything up. My fault, of course. New Laptop now - but I am lost. I can hardly take it how fast the thread has moved. I have caught up I think with Part 6, but have missed loads of Part 5. Just a few thoughts before I go away and catch up again. I thought it was J's voice on the White Copper track too - just a slightly more mature tone. I see the poetry is still going strong - much appreciated. I am useless. The Gutter is still going strong, I see - love it. Finally, the controversy over brass. I like a bit of brass myself - but just one instrument at a time. My favourite? - trumpet! Example: [God, I hope this works!] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAVeeuwRiI Off now to play a bit of catch up. |
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Finally, the controversy over brass. I like a bit of brass myself - but just one instrument at a time. My favourite? - trumpet! Example: [God, I hope this works!]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAVeeuwRiI Off now to play a bit of catch up.
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Sorry, just going back a bit - 'official' looking tweet - does this mean that unless one is on Twitter done is not entitled to know what's going on in the world? (not you I rage at, just life)
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Hi Everyone.
Blimey - I am so far behind. My laptop gave up the ghost on me - and I lost absolutely everything! All my music and dances [Jaliona, of course]. I am having to start from scratch - I didn't back anything up. My fault, of course. New Laptop now - but I am lost. I can hardly take it how fast the thread has moved. I have caught up I think with Part 6, but have missed loads of Part 5. Just a few thoughts before I go away and catch up again. I thought it was J's voice on the White Copper track too - just a slightly more mature tone. I see the poetry is still going strong - much appreciated. I am useless. The Gutter is still going strong, I see - love it. Finally, the controversy over brass. I like a bit of brass myself - but just one instrument at a time. My favourite? - trumpet! Example: [God, I hope this works!] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAVeeuwRiI Off now to play a bit of catch up. |
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Finally, the controversy over brass. I like a bit of brass myself - but just one instrument at a time. My favourite? - trumpet! Example: [God, I hope this works!]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAVeeuwRiI I should probably admit that I was joking about the Brass Bands, hangs head in shame, I'm not sure I could listen to a whole band but that song by Elbow is lovely. |
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Hi Everyone.
Blimey - I am so far behind. My laptop gave up the ghost on me - and I lost absolutely everything! All my music and dances [Jaliona, of course]. I am having to start from scratch - I didn't back anything up. My fault, of course. New Laptop now - but I am lost. I can hardly take it how fast the thread has moved. I have caught up I think with Part 6, but have missed loads of Part 5. Just a few thoughts before I go away and catch up again. I thought it was J's voice on the White Copper track too - just a slightly more mature tone. I see the poetry is still going strong - much appreciated. I am useless. The Gutter is still going strong, I see - love it. Finally, the controversy over brass. I like a bit of brass myself - but just one instrument at a time. My favourite? - trumpet! Example: [God, I hope this works!] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAVeeuwRiI Off now to play a bit of catch up. PS. I'm playing catch-up too but must be further behind than you as I wasn't even aware of any 'brass' talk 😂🎷🎺 |
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RED PASO
From the first note when J raised his head, arched his by now beautifully toned & taut body and lunged purposefully towards Aliona it was clear this was a different animal indeed. And so it continued throughout the routine. The Jayblocking strong & powerful. Beautiful shaping & body lines. How long are those arms & how magnificent that torso. Barely contained raw masculine power yet still elegant & graceful with arms & hands (I think I am a little obsessed with his hands). And throughout the little smiles and glances between them saying so much without words. The smiles get bigger - Alionas' when they make the handhold that was missed first time. By 'Frankie says I did it my way' they are beaming at each other because they cannot help it & are dancing totally as one & for each other. J winks at Aliona then prepares for the last spin. No need for two hands this time. He raises his face & arm triumphantly, taps his chest & pulls Aliona to him. Simply majestic. And so to the announcement of the winners – Jay & Aliona!!! YESSS!! I felt so relieved that common sense had prevailed. Aliona looks astonished & J hides his face, hiding the emotions threatening to erupt. Claudia trips on her dress. Too slow Claude – Tess has already got her mitts on J. They manage a few words before emotion takes over. Then some lovely images. Aljaz & Gleb lifting J on their shoulders – how steely is that core?. Tristan enveloping Aliona in a huge bearhug. Little Georgia tapping J on the back to get his attention then being hugged & lifted with one arm while Aliona is already in the other. Giovanni hugging J & checking he is ok. Then the lovely red button interview. J & A seemed to have composed themselves. There is giggling with Anton & Katie. J laughs uproariously at Zoes' predicament then casually dismisses the showdance opening – 'It's only supporting your own body weight' like anyone could do it! And together they thank their supporters acknowledging all the ups & downs along the way. And it's over grace &integrity & being true to themselves to the last. And we loved them for it. (sorry if I have rambled a bit) ETA And to the doubters that the best couple won the scores (ignoring the manipulated Quickstep & irrelevant final ones) show that they did. Whiffle has very kindly taken a 10 minute vid from YT and reduced it to the relevant paso for me. Thank you again and kudos for your techno knowledge. I have had this vid in mind for some time and indeed it may have been seen by some. It is Aliona and Maksim Chermovskiy performing a professional paso routine on Dancing With The Stars. There is much that Aliona put into Jay's routine I DON'T want to compare Jay to a professional dancer but to look at the relationship between J&A I feel it shows the trust that Ali had in Jay that she felt comfortable giving him some choreography from a full on pro routine. (And if truth be told there are times I feel J is more on point than Maksim. I know I'm not comparing but.....) First clip to show Aliona's trust and training. 0.8 Maksim's hand at 0.8 is flat compared to J. The arm shaping M straight J held at elbow The attention to the dance on point with J Second clip 0.1 Jay's arms held better for Aliona as the cape 0.12 very similar steps to those by J&A 0.29 to 0.47 is effectively the start of J&A paso It was especially this final choreo by Maksim and Ali (which is effectively the start of J&A.) that bought this comparison to mind. With the exception of the flamenco steps I believe J does throw thecshapes that M does. The final arm raise (unfortunately not seen in its entirety here) is certainly finished off better by J. And yet Len and Bruno approve of this pro dance in America but pick holes in a similar dance here So I hope I've given the comparison I saw without anyone thinking I am expecting to much of J. Now I've got to try to attach the links. Hope these work cos Whiffle spent alot of time on em for me. Thanks again https://youtu.be/p3HMFctuW5s https://youtu.be/CiQhk0KOQuo So please remember folks this is my opinion of a dance where, in places, I think J bested the male pro. |
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Hi Hannah - the links are coming up with a message that the owner of the video has to grant access so think there must be a private setting on them?
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Oh dear, can somebody fetch Isih, Korky and Lola are at it again.....
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Hi Hannah - the links are coming up with a message that the owner of the video has to grant access so think there must be a private setting on them?
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RED PASO REVIEW (SORT OF)
Whiffle has very kindly taken a 10 minute vid from YT and reduced it to the relevant paso for me. Thank you again and kudos for your techno knowledge. I have had this vid in mind for some time and indeed it may have been seen by some. It is Aliona and Maksim Chermovskiy performing a professional paso routine on Dancing With The Stars. There is much that Aliona put into Jay's routine I DON'T want to compare Jay to a professional dancer but to look at the relationship between J&A I feel it shows the trust that Ali had in Jay that she felt comfortable giving him some choreography from a full on pro routine. (And if truth be told there are times I feel J is more on point than Maksim. I know I'm not comparing but.....) First clip to show Aliona's trust and training. 0.8 Maksim's hand at 0.8 is flat compared to J. The arm shaping M straight J held at elbow The attention to the dance on point with J Second clip 0.1 Jay's arms held better for Aliona as the cape 0.12 very similar steps to those by J&A 0.29 to 0.47 is effectively the start of J&A paso It was especially this final choreo by Maksim and Ali (which is effectively the start of J&A.) that bought this comparison to mind. With the exception of the flamenco steps I believe J does throw thecshapes that M does. The final arm raise (unfortunately not seen in its entirety here) is certainly finished off better by J. And yet Len and Bruno approve of this pro dance in America but pick holes in a similar dance here Thanks for this Hannah and whiffle So I hope I've given the comparison I saw without anyone thinking I am expecting to much of J. Now I've got to try to attach the links. Hope these work cos Whiffle spent alot of time on em for me. Thanks again https://youtu.be/p3HMFctuW5s https://youtu.be/CiQhk0KOQuo So please remember folks this is my opinion of a dance where, in places, I think J bested the male pro. Really interesting to see and compare. I think I have been bra'jay'nwashed because I so, so much prefer Jay's interpretation. I really don't like this male dancer at all. Fascinating to see how the choreography is recycled. |
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We had a lovely time this evening. The only problem is that the place is very noisy! The sound echoes all round the place.
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We had a lovely time this evening. The only problem is that the place is very noisy! The sound echoes all round the place.
Places with poor acoustics are a real pet hate of mine. Should be given more consideration when people design their restaurants. Are your celebrations finished now? |
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Are they working now Cat
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Wow Mo that is so good, and I love the video that goes with it.
I should probably admit that I was joking about the Brass Bands, hangs head in shame, I'm not sure I could listen to a whole band but that song by Elbow is lovely. https://mandawhitney.files.wordpress...d-in-shame.jpg |
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Thanks for this Hannah and Whiffle
Really interesting to see and compare. I think I have been bra'jay'nwashed because I so, so much prefer Jay's interpretation. I really don't like this male dancer at all. Fascinating to see how the choreography is recycled. Quote:
Brilliant! Thank you - that is a really great comparison and I agree 100% with your points. Also agree with Jayfan - I prefer Jay's interpretation!
It honestly is the partnership between J&A that comes through. She trusts him with her professional choreography. If I do compare it is that I can see more feeling and strength from J in a "quiet macho way." I can see more feeling in his every movement. And yes that includes facially. And there are good pro dancers and selfish pros. I know where I put this male pro |
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Remember "Jay on a Train" 3 questions for a 3 hour train journey with Jay???
This has to be a coincidence...right? Tweet from a fan who approached him at the station today: https://twitter.com/Melissa_Woodley/...798108673?s=09 ![]() ![]()
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And so you should making me listen to my fave record played by brass. Bad cat
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Remember "Jay on a Train" 3 questions for a 3 hour train journey with Jay???
This has to be a coincidence...right? Tweet from a fan who approached him at the station today: https://twitter.com/Melissa_Woodley/...798108673?s=09 ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I don't think it is a coincidence, I'm convinced he reads this, hello J
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Station picture, unfortunately with screwed-up face...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkI5LEZXAAEaqHi.jpg Doesn't J's father live in Leeds? |
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OK looks like everyone's 💤💤💤💤💤now
SO THE SUMMER EXERCISE PLAN LADIES. Warmup prior to exercise http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...65_634x477.jpg Warmup and Jogging http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uQF2urNBYH...2Bpark%2B4.jpg Warm down https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...14fff68ed7.jpg 20 mins exercise per day, 3 times per week and you too could eventually look like this 😉😉. Honest😇👿 ENJOY😆😆😆😆😆 More exercises to follow ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Station picture, unfortunately with tongue...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkI5LEZXAAEaqHi.jpg Doesn't J's father live in Leeds? |
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