Thanks everyone, it shouldn't be too bad- although I'm sure I would do a lot better if the subject of the exam was Jay's time on Strictly (or to be honest, just strictly in general) 
Jay McGuiness and Aliona Vilani appreciation thread - Part 6
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Hi Everyone.
Blimey - I am so far behind. My laptop gave up the ghost on me - and I lost absolutely everything! All my music and dances [Jaliona, of course]. I am having to start from scratch - I didn't back anything up. My fault, of course. New Laptop now - but I am lost. I can hardly take it how fast the thread has moved. I have caught up I think with Part 6, but have missed loads of Part 5. Just a few thoughts before I go away and catch up again.
I thought it was J's voice on the White Copper track too - just a slightly more mature tone.
I see the poetry is still going strong - much appreciated. I am useless.
The Gutter is still going strong, I see - love it.
Finally, the controversy over brass. I like a bit of brass myself - but just one instrument at a time. My favourite? - trumpet! Example: [God, I hope this works!]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAVeeuwRiI
Off now to play a bit of catch up.
Blimey - I am so far behind. My laptop gave up the ghost on me - and I lost absolutely everything! All my music and dances [Jaliona, of course]. I am having to start from scratch - I didn't back anything up. My fault, of course. New Laptop now - but I am lost. I can hardly take it how fast the thread has moved. I have caught up I think with Part 6, but have missed loads of Part 5. Just a few thoughts before I go away and catch up again.
I thought it was J's voice on the White Copper track too - just a slightly more mature tone.
I see the poetry is still going strong - much appreciated. I am useless.
The Gutter is still going strong, I see - love it.
Finally, the controversy over brass. I like a bit of brass myself - but just one instrument at a time. My favourite? - trumpet! Example: [God, I hope this works!]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAVeeuwRiI
Off now to play a bit of catch up.
Originally Posted by Mo_Wilson:
“Finally, the controversy over brass. I like a bit of brass myself - but just one instrument at a time. My favourite? - trumpet! Example: [God, I hope this works!]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAVeeuwRiI
Off now to play a bit of catch up.”
“Finally, the controversy over brass. I like a bit of brass myself - but just one instrument at a time. My favourite? - trumpet! Example: [God, I hope this works!]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAVeeuwRiI
Off now to play a bit of catch up.”
I wasn't expecting that, and I love all of the little dancers in that video. So poignant.
Originally Posted by Isih:
“Sorry, just going back a bit - 'official' looking tweet - does this mean that unless one is on Twitter done is not entitled to know what's going on in the world? (not you I rage at, just life)
”
“Sorry, just going back a bit - 'official' looking tweet - does this mean that unless one is on Twitter done is not entitled to know what's going on in the world? (not you I rage at, just life)
”
It wasn't the BBC or an random person. It was some TV listing organisation tweeting.
Originally Posted by Mo_Wilson:
“Hi Everyone.
Blimey - I am so far behind. My laptop gave up the ghost on me - and I lost absolutely everything! All my music and dances [Jaliona, of course]. I am having to start from scratch - I didn't back anything up. My fault, of course. New Laptop now - but I am lost. I can hardly take it how fast the thread has moved. I have caught up I think with Part 6, but have missed loads of Part 5. Just a few thoughts before I go away and catch up again.
I thought it was J's voice on the White Copper track too - just a slightly more mature tone.
I see the poetry is still going strong - much appreciated. I am useless.
The Gutter is still going strong, I see - love it.
Finally, the controversy over brass. I like a bit of brass myself - but just one instrument at a time. My favourite? - trumpet! Example: [God, I hope this works!]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAVeeuwRiI
Off now to play a bit of catch up.”
“Hi Everyone.
Blimey - I am so far behind. My laptop gave up the ghost on me - and I lost absolutely everything! All my music and dances [Jaliona, of course]. I am having to start from scratch - I didn't back anything up. My fault, of course. New Laptop now - but I am lost. I can hardly take it how fast the thread has moved. I have caught up I think with Part 6, but have missed loads of Part 5. Just a few thoughts before I go away and catch up again.
I thought it was J's voice on the White Copper track too - just a slightly more mature tone.
I see the poetry is still going strong - much appreciated. I am useless.
The Gutter is still going strong, I see - love it.
Finally, the controversy over brass. I like a bit of brass myself - but just one instrument at a time. My favourite? - trumpet! Example: [God, I hope this works!]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAVeeuwRiI
Off now to play a bit of catch up.”
This is lovely - big fan of Elbow too
Originally Posted by Mo_Wilson:
“Finally, the controversy over brass. I like a bit of brass myself - but just one instrument at a time. My favourite? - trumpet! Example: [God, I hope this works!]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAVeeuwRiI
”
“Finally, the controversy over brass. I like a bit of brass myself - but just one instrument at a time. My favourite? - trumpet! Example: [God, I hope this works!]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAVeeuwRiI
”
Wow Mo that is so good, and I love the video that goes with it.
I should probably admit that I was joking about the Brass Bands, hangs head in shame, I'm not sure I could listen to a whole band but that song by Elbow is lovely.
Originally Posted by Mo_Wilson:
“Hi Everyone.
Blimey - I am so far behind. My laptop gave up the ghost on me - and I lost absolutely everything! All my music and dances [Jaliona, of course]. I am having to start from scratch - I didn't back anything up. My fault, of course. New Laptop now - but I am lost. I can hardly take it how fast the thread has moved. I have caught up I think with Part 6, but have missed loads of Part 5. Just a few thoughts before I go away and catch up again.
I thought it was J's voice on the White Copper track too - just a slightly more mature tone.
I see the poetry is still going strong - much appreciated. I am useless.
The Gutter is still going strong, I see - love it.
Finally, the controversy over brass. I like a bit of brass myself - but just one instrument at a time. My favourite? - trumpet! Example: [God, I hope this works!]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAVeeuwRiI
Off now to play a bit of catch up.”
“Hi Everyone.
Blimey - I am so far behind. My laptop gave up the ghost on me - and I lost absolutely everything! All my music and dances [Jaliona, of course]. I am having to start from scratch - I didn't back anything up. My fault, of course. New Laptop now - but I am lost. I can hardly take it how fast the thread has moved. I have caught up I think with Part 6, but have missed loads of Part 5. Just a few thoughts before I go away and catch up again.
I thought it was J's voice on the White Copper track too - just a slightly more mature tone.
I see the poetry is still going strong - much appreciated. I am useless.
The Gutter is still going strong, I see - love it.
Finally, the controversy over brass. I like a bit of brass myself - but just one instrument at a time. My favourite? - trumpet! Example: [God, I hope this works!]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAVeeuwRiI
Off now to play a bit of catch up.”
Mo, love this track. Elbow have always seemed to be such an underrated band. Thanks for the link!
PS. I'm playing catch-up too but must be further behind than you as I wasn't even aware of any 'brass' talk 😂🎷🎺
Originally Posted by Whiffle_09:
“RED PASO
From the first note when J raised his head, arched his by now beautifully toned & taut body and lunged purposefully towards Aliona it was clear this was a different animal indeed. And so it continued throughout the routine. The Jayblocking strong & powerful. Beautiful shaping & body lines. How long are those arms & how magnificent that torso. Barely contained raw masculine power yet still elegant & graceful with arms & hands (I think I am a little obsessed with his hands).
And throughout the little smiles and glances between them saying so much without words. The smiles get bigger - Alionas' when they make the handhold that was missed first time. By 'Frankie says I did it my way' they are beaming at each other because they cannot help it & are dancing totally as one & for each other. J winks at Aliona then prepares for the last spin. No need for two hands this time. He raises his face & arm triumphantly, taps his chest & pulls Aliona to him. Simply majestic.
And so to the announcement of the winners – Jay & Aliona!!! YESSS!! I felt so relieved that common sense had prevailed. Aliona looks astonished & J hides his face, hiding the emotions threatening to erupt. Claudia trips on her dress. Too slow Claude – Tess has already got her mitts on J. They manage a few words before emotion takes over. Then some lovely images. Aljaz & Gleb lifting J on their shoulders – how steely is that core?. Tristan enveloping Aliona in a huge bearhug. Little Georgia tapping J on the back to get his attention then being hugged & lifted with one arm while Aliona is already in the other. Giovanni hugging J & checking he is ok.
Then the lovely red button interview. J & A seemed to have composed themselves. There is giggling with Anton & Katie. J laughs uproariously at Zoes' predicament then casually dismisses the showdance opening – 'It's only supporting your own body weight' like anyone could do it! And together they thank their supporters acknowledging all the ups & downs along the way. And it's over grace &integrity & being true to themselves to the last. And we loved them for it.
(sorry if I have rambled a bit)
ETA And to the doubters that the best couple won the scores (ignoring the manipulated Quickstep & irrelevant final ones) show that they did.”
“RED PASO
From the first note when J raised his head, arched his by now beautifully toned & taut body and lunged purposefully towards Aliona it was clear this was a different animal indeed. And so it continued throughout the routine. The Jayblocking strong & powerful. Beautiful shaping & body lines. How long are those arms & how magnificent that torso. Barely contained raw masculine power yet still elegant & graceful with arms & hands (I think I am a little obsessed with his hands).
And throughout the little smiles and glances between them saying so much without words. The smiles get bigger - Alionas' when they make the handhold that was missed first time. By 'Frankie says I did it my way' they are beaming at each other because they cannot help it & are dancing totally as one & for each other. J winks at Aliona then prepares for the last spin. No need for two hands this time. He raises his face & arm triumphantly, taps his chest & pulls Aliona to him. Simply majestic.
And so to the announcement of the winners – Jay & Aliona!!! YESSS!! I felt so relieved that common sense had prevailed. Aliona looks astonished & J hides his face, hiding the emotions threatening to erupt. Claudia trips on her dress. Too slow Claude – Tess has already got her mitts on J. They manage a few words before emotion takes over. Then some lovely images. Aljaz & Gleb lifting J on their shoulders – how steely is that core?. Tristan enveloping Aliona in a huge bearhug. Little Georgia tapping J on the back to get his attention then being hugged & lifted with one arm while Aliona is already in the other. Giovanni hugging J & checking he is ok.
Then the lovely red button interview. J & A seemed to have composed themselves. There is giggling with Anton & Katie. J laughs uproariously at Zoes' predicament then casually dismisses the showdance opening – 'It's only supporting your own body weight' like anyone could do it! And together they thank their supporters acknowledging all the ups & downs along the way. And it's over grace &integrity & being true to themselves to the last. And we loved them for it.
(sorry if I have rambled a bit)
ETA And to the doubters that the best couple won the scores (ignoring the manipulated Quickstep & irrelevant final ones) show that they did.”
RED PASO REVIEW (SORT OF)
Whiffle has very kindly taken a 10 minute vid from YT and reduced it to the relevant paso for me. Thank you again and kudos for your techno knowledge.
I have had this vid in mind for some time and indeed it may have been seen by some.
It is Aliona and Maksim Chermovskiy performing a professional paso routine on Dancing With The Stars. There is much that Aliona put into Jay's routine
I DON'T want to compare Jay to a professional dancer but to look at the relationship between J&A
I feel it shows the trust that Ali had in Jay that she felt comfortable giving him some choreography from a full on pro routine.
(And if truth be told there are times I feel J is more on point than Maksim. I know I'm not comparing but.....)
First clip to show Aliona's trust and training.
0.8 Maksim's hand at 0.8 is flat compared to J.
The arm shaping M straight J held at elbow
The attention to the dance on point with J
Second clip
0.1 Jay's arms held better for Aliona as the cape
0.12 very similar steps to those by J&A
0.29 to 0.47 is effectively the start of J&A paso
It was especially this final choreo by Maksim and Ali (which is effectively the start of J&A.) that bought this comparison to mind.
With the exception of the flamenco steps I believe J does throw thecshapes that M does. The final arm raise (unfortunately not seen in its entirety here) is certainly finished off better by J.
And yet Len and Bruno approve of this pro dance in America but pick holes in a similar dance here
So I hope I've given the comparison I saw without anyone thinking I am expecting to much of J.
Now I've got to try to attach the links. Hope these work cos Whiffle spent alot of time on em for me. Thanks again
https://youtu.be/p3HMFctuW5s
https://youtu.be/CiQhk0KOQuo
So please remember folks this is my opinion of a dance where, in places, I think J bested the male pro.
Hi Hannah - the links are coming up with a message that the owner of the video has to grant access so think there must be a private setting on them?
Oh dear, can somebody fetch Isih, Korky and Lola are at it again.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMngXo9B_Vg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMngXo9B_Vg
Originally Posted by CatO9Tales:
“Hi Hannah - the links are coming up with a message that the owner of the video has to grant access so think there must be a private setting on them?”
“Hi Hannah - the links are coming up with a message that the owner of the video has to grant access so think there must be a private setting on them?”
Are they working now Cat
Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“RED PASO REVIEW (SORT OF)
Whiffle has very kindly taken a 10 minute vid from YT and reduced it to the relevant paso for me. Thank you again and kudos for your techno knowledge.
I have had this vid in mind for some time and indeed it may have been seen by some.
It is Aliona and Maksim Chermovskiy performing a professional paso routine on Dancing With The Stars. There is much that Aliona put into Jay's routine
I DON'T want to compare Jay to a professional dancer but to look at the relationship between J&A
I feel it shows the trust that Ali had in Jay that she felt comfortable giving him some choreography from a full on pro routine.
(And if truth be told there are times I feel J is more on point than Maksim. I know I'm not comparing but.....)
First clip to show Aliona's trust and training.
0.8 Maksim's hand at 0.8 is flat compared to J.
The arm shaping M straight J held at elbow
The attention to the dance on point with J
Second clip
0.1 Jay's arms held better for Aliona as the cape
0.12 very similar steps to those by J&A
0.29 to 0.47 is effectively the start of J&A paso
It was especially this final choreo by Maksim and Ali (which is effectively the start of J&A.) that bought this comparison to mind.
With the exception of the flamenco steps I believe J does throw thecshapes that M does. The final arm raise (unfortunately not seen in its entirety here) is certainly finished off better by J.
And yet Len and Bruno approve of this pro dance in America but pick holes in a similar dance here
Thanks for this Hannah and whiffle
So I hope I've given the comparison I saw without anyone thinking I am expecting to much of J.
Now I've got to try to attach the links. Hope these work cos Whiffle spent alot of time on em for me. Thanks again
https://youtu.be/p3HMFctuW5s
https://youtu.be/CiQhk0KOQuo
So please remember folks this is my opinion of a dance where, in places, I think J bested the male pro.”
“RED PASO REVIEW (SORT OF)
Whiffle has very kindly taken a 10 minute vid from YT and reduced it to the relevant paso for me. Thank you again and kudos for your techno knowledge.
I have had this vid in mind for some time and indeed it may have been seen by some.
It is Aliona and Maksim Chermovskiy performing a professional paso routine on Dancing With The Stars. There is much that Aliona put into Jay's routine
I DON'T want to compare Jay to a professional dancer but to look at the relationship between J&A
I feel it shows the trust that Ali had in Jay that she felt comfortable giving him some choreography from a full on pro routine.
(And if truth be told there are times I feel J is more on point than Maksim. I know I'm not comparing but.....)
First clip to show Aliona's trust and training.
0.8 Maksim's hand at 0.8 is flat compared to J.
The arm shaping M straight J held at elbow
The attention to the dance on point with J
Second clip
0.1 Jay's arms held better for Aliona as the cape
0.12 very similar steps to those by J&A
0.29 to 0.47 is effectively the start of J&A paso
It was especially this final choreo by Maksim and Ali (which is effectively the start of J&A.) that bought this comparison to mind.
With the exception of the flamenco steps I believe J does throw thecshapes that M does. The final arm raise (unfortunately not seen in its entirety here) is certainly finished off better by J.
And yet Len and Bruno approve of this pro dance in America but pick holes in a similar dance here
Thanks for this Hannah and whiffle
So I hope I've given the comparison I saw without anyone thinking I am expecting to much of J.
Now I've got to try to attach the links. Hope these work cos Whiffle spent alot of time on em for me. Thanks again
https://youtu.be/p3HMFctuW5s
https://youtu.be/CiQhk0KOQuo
So please remember folks this is my opinion of a dance where, in places, I think J bested the male pro.”
Thanks for this Hannah and Whiffle
Really interesting to see and compare.
I think I have been bra'jay'nwashed because I so, so much prefer Jay's interpretation. I really don't like this male dancer at all.
Fascinating to see how the choreography is recycled.
We had a lovely time this evening. The only problem is that the place is very noisy! The sound echoes all round the place.
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“We had a lovely time this evening. The only problem is that the place is very noisy! The sound echoes all round the place.”
“We had a lovely time this evening. The only problem is that the place is very noisy! The sound echoes all round the place.”
Glad you had a lovely time Gil
Places with poor acoustics are a real pet hate of mine. Should be given more consideration when people design their restaurants.
Are your celebrations finished now?
Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“Are they working now Cat”
“Are they working now Cat”
Brilliant! Thank you - that is a really great comparison and I agree 100% with your points. Also agree with Jayfan - I prefer Jay's interpretation!
Originally Posted by Lola the cat:
“Wow Mo that is so good, and I love the video that goes with it.
I should probably admit that I was joking about the Brass Bands, hangs head in shame, I'm not sure I could listen to a whole band but that song by Elbow is lovely.”
“Wow Mo that is so good, and I love the video that goes with it.
I should probably admit that I was joking about the Brass Bands, hangs head in shame, I'm not sure I could listen to a whole band but that song by Elbow is lovely.”
And so you should, making me listen to my fave record played by brass. Bad cat
https://mandawhitney.files.wordpress...d-in-shame.jpg
Originally Posted by jayfan:
“Thanks for this Hannah and Whiffle
Really interesting to see and compare.
I think I have been bra'jay'nwashed because I so, so much prefer Jay's interpretation. I really don't like this male dancer at all.
Fascinating to see how the choreography is recycled.”
“Thanks for this Hannah and Whiffle
Really interesting to see and compare.
I think I have been bra'jay'nwashed because I so, so much prefer Jay's interpretation. I really don't like this male dancer at all.
Fascinating to see how the choreography is recycled.”
Originally Posted by CatO9Tales:
“Brilliant! Thank you - that is a really great comparison and I agree 100% with your points. Also agree with Jayfan - I prefer Jay's interpretation!”
“Brilliant! Thank you - that is a really great comparison and I agree 100% with your points. Also agree with Jayfan - I prefer Jay's interpretation!”
Phew. I thought I might get castigated for "comparing" J to a pro like Maksim. Not my intention per se.
It honestly is the partnership between J&A that comes through. She trusts him with her professional choreography.
If I do compare it is that I can see more feeling and strength from J in a "quiet macho way." I can see more feeling in his every movement. And yes that includes facially.
And there are good pro dancers and selfish pros. I know where I put this male pro
Remember "Jay on a Train" 3 questions for a 3 hour train journey with Jay???
This has to be a coincidence...right?
Tweet from a fan who approached him at the station today:
https://twitter.com/Melissa_Woodley/...798108673?s=09
This has to be a coincidence...right?
Tweet from a fan who approached him at the station today:
https://twitter.com/Melissa_Woodley/...798108673?s=09
Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“And so you should making me listen to my fave record played by brass. Bad cat
https://mandawhitney.files.wordpress...d-in-shame.jpg”
“And so you should making me listen to my fave record played by brass. Bad cat
https://mandawhitney.files.wordpress...d-in-shame.jpg”
Hannah - I'm sorry
BB - If Korky is willing I'll try to behave
Originally Posted by speedtrap:
“Remember "Jay on a Train" 3 questions for a 3 hour train journey with Jay???
This has to be a coincidence...right?
Tweet from a fan who approached him at the station today:
https://twitter.com/Melissa_Woodley/...798108673?s=09
”
“Remember "Jay on a Train" 3 questions for a 3 hour train journey with Jay???
This has to be a coincidence...right?
Tweet from a fan who approached him at the station today:
https://twitter.com/Melissa_Woodley/...798108673?s=09
”
I don't think it is a coincidence, I'm convinced he reads this, hello J
Originally Posted by Lola the cat:
“I don't think it is a coincidence, I'm convinced he reads this, hello J”
“I don't think it is a coincidence, I'm convinced he reads this, hello J
”
Dammit, I wish I'd been with him on that train...we'd have covered some ground... and I don't mean geographically.
Hi Mr McG
Station picture, unfortunately with screwed-up face...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkI5LEZXAAEaqHi.jpg
Doesn't J's father live in Leeds?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkI5LEZXAAEaqHi.jpg
Doesn't J's father live in Leeds?
Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“OK looks like everyone's 💤💤💤💤💤now
SO THE SUMMER EXERCISE PLAN LADIES.
Warmup prior to exercise
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...65_634x477.jpg
Warmup and Jogging
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uQF2urNBYH...2Bpark%2B4.jpg
Warm down
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...14fff68ed7.jpg
20 mins exercise per day, 3 times per week and you too could eventually look like this 😉😉. Honest😇👿
ENJOY😆😆😆😆😆
More exercises to follow”
“OK looks like everyone's 💤💤💤💤💤now
SO THE SUMMER EXERCISE PLAN LADIES.
Warmup prior to exercise
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...65_634x477.jpg
Warmup and Jogging
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uQF2urNBYH...2Bpark%2B4.jpg
Warm down
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...14fff68ed7.jpg
20 mins exercise per day, 3 times per week and you too could eventually look like this 😉😉. Honest😇👿
ENJOY😆😆😆😆😆
More exercises to follow”
Looks like they photoshopped Aliona's face on to pictures of me!
Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“Station picture, unfortunately with tongue...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkI5LEZXAAEaqHi.jpg
Doesn't J's father live in Leeds?”
“Station picture, unfortunately with tongue...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkI5LEZXAAEaqHi.jpg
Doesn't J's father live in Leeds?”
Can't see a tongue? Pulling a face though.
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