Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“And if J said so himself, that makes me appreciate him all the more for his honesty, self-awareness, and desire to do better. I don't know where this is coming from suddenly. All through SCD we merrily discussed the ups and downs, the pluses and mignuses. Now suddenly that's become a problem. I don't understand TBH.”
Originally Posted by speedtrap:
“Which is one of the reasons why, at the time, I thought it relevant to recount. What I didn't expect or intend is that it should be used against him...especially here.”
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“I don't think it was used against him at all. We simply didn't immediately go "oh no, that's not true at all" On this occasion, he didn't pick up his performance level at the point it was at the end of SCD (I would have been surprised if he had, TBH). So he has to work at it - I see absolutely nothing wrong with that, and nothing about that is incompatible with appreciation.
I thought his modesty charming, as is the time he is prepared to spend with his fans, and the way he appreciates their support.
Like I said before, there are no haters here. We all want J to be the best he can be. But to me, that means we have to allow that he is not always 100% perfect - as with SCD, we look for and admire his improvement, and hope it will be as quick as possible.”
Originally Posted by
Lindy_Loue:
“TT, I have to say I am with you on this. And I also really enjoyed everyone's reports, including every point of view.
I really don't understand how or why this has come up. I can only think that something has happened off thread (via pm, or on Twitter). Anyway I find it all very difficult 
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I'll try to say it simply because I don't know what is hard to understand here. Speedy has tried and tried to explain but for some reason it appears it's difficult to grasp.
West End shows and musicals, often have Preview Weeks (like MK last week, before Press Nights) which allow hiccups, to be ironed out and technical changes to be made before facing the Press for critique.
The press have an unwritten rule, that critical reviews are not made before the Press Night. There are many examples, however, of AMATEUR, ONLINE, OR DIGITAL REVIEWS THAT ARE NOT FLATTERING OR CRITICAL, APPEARING IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN BEFORE THE PRESS NIGHT THEREFORE AFFECTING THE SHOWS RECEPTION AND ULTIMATELY LEADING TO THEIR CANCELLATION OR FAILURE TO MAKE IT TO THE WEST END.
Speedy (and I, to some extent, plus others) are attempting to make clear to those who will seek to give negative or critical views, that this can and WILL affect BIG if this type of review appears online, especially here where it is a well known source for lazy hack journalism.
Now - I appreciate it is a free world and all that but.....PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, all egos aside can we really, truly THINK before anyone posts critical stuff about these shows IN PUBLIC??
This is J's life, J's career, it's not a game of one-upmanship or of who has the last word. I couldn't care less about anything but J's career and J himself.
My conscience is clear - I would never post anything to damage him or his career, we agreed not to discuss on here in PUBLIC any of Jays relationships either real or speculative in case it damaged his career.
Is it really that difficult to think about this, seriously?
