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Jay McGuiness and Aliona Vilani appreciation thread - Part 6
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Lola the cat
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“As Lola said what goes viral is pretty unquantifiable. It just does!

I guess when someone shares it with the comment "omfg this is hilarious" people will watch it, but if you don't watch strictly and you see a post about Jays Jive "omfg this is the most phenomenal dance I've ever seen" you'd probably scroll on by as it won't interest you.”

This Buzzfeed article from 2014 published in The Guardian explains how and why things go viral, basically people like to share and they like to share things they have had an emotional response to, be it awe-inspiring, emotional, positive or surprising.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-tips-buzzfeed
StrictlyRed
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“Conceivably on FB, but not on YT.

TBH, I'm scratching my head a bit. I hope it doesn't put me off JR - I like him. Difference is that I liked J for his dancing first (only as the season went on, for his delightful personality - although I was always charmed by his shyness and terror!). Having said that, I really like JR's personality as well, but in a very different way. He's an intelligent TV personality and quick to be able to assert himself on the main show. Maybe JR is just a lot more well known in the Strictly demographic. *scratches head again*. Popular yes, viral no.”

I like him too, and I think I would only be put off if they pulled the same kind of stunt week after week. But I don't think they will. As you said, he is an intelligent man, and I believe (hope) this will be an intelligent partnership which will surprise us next time with some lovely ballroom.


Originally Posted by Polly-T:
“

Would that be FB views??
on Youtube it says 137,000 for the BBC video”

Yes, I think it is. FB views for the performance are quite extraordinary! You have to remember that FB may play the video automatically though, adding to the count, unless you adjust settings. This was pointed out to us last year when we noticed the amount of FB views the jive got. Still very very impressive though.

The last time I looked, the jive was ahead for the equivalent time period last year on YouTube, but as Lola said this could be explained by the different demographic.

I don't mind - as others have pointed out Jay's dances were the most popular by far last year, and as I am not heavily invested in anyone this year, it's just another interesting point of discussion.
BMLisa
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“I like him too, and I think I would only be put off if they pulled the same kind of stunt week after week. But I don't think they will. As you said, he is an intelligent man, and I believe (hope) this will be an intelligent partnership which will surprise us next time with some lovely ballroom.




Yes, I think it is. FB views for the performance are quite extraordinary! You have to remember that FB may play the video automatically though, adding to the count, unless you adjust settings. This was pointed out to us last year when we noticed the amount of FB views the jive got. Still very very impressive though.

The last time I looked, the jive was ahead for the equivalent time period last year on YouTube, but as Lola said this could be explained by the different demographic.

I don't mind - as others have pointed out Jay's dances were the most popular by far last year, and as I am not heavily invested in anyone this year, it's just another interesting point of discussion.”

Exactly. There's no point in worrying if someone gets more views. It's bound to happen at points.

Jay won (probably by an absolute landslide) Aliona won for the second time, they went on to win almost every tour date. And even this year he smashed the likes of all this years contestants. They are extremely popular as past strictly couples go and by a very long way the most popular of last year.

Also other couples have a couple of dances maybe 3 that do well. The vast majority of Jays dances are in the top 20 on the Strictly channel.
jayfan
25-09-2016
Whiffle - could you post the link to your Strictly Journey video again. I have not looked at it for a while.
Many thanks
Lola the cat
25-09-2016
Has anyone seen this tweet from Neil Jones - I think he just be right is his assertion that some might disagree with the bit about kick ball changes No idea what sugar push it, perhaps someone can explain.

Neil Jones ‏@Mr_NJones 3h3 hours ago
I know a lot of people will disagree but technically @LouiseRedknapp just pulled off the highest level of kick ball changes and sugar push
jayfan
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by Lola the cat:
“Has anyone seen this tweet from Neil Jones - I think he just be right is his assertion that some might disagree with the bit about kick ball changes No idea what sugar push it, perhaps someone can explain.

Neil Jones ‏@Mr_NJones 3h3 hours ago
I know a lot of people will disagree but technically @LouiseRedknapp just pulled off the highest level of kick ball changes and sugar push
”

Videos on YouTube of a sugar push if anyone can link.
BMLisa
25-09-2016
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JX19YXHIABI

Don't think J&A did them.
Lola the cat
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by jayfan:
“Videos on YouTube of a sugar push if anyone can link.”

Ahhh, now I get which step it is - yeah still don't agree with him

https://youtu.be/KJGrzuTPj2o
BMLisa
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“Maybe the very fact that J's jive went viral has made so many more people aware of the Strictly phenomenon. But no other dance went viral last year. Not even close as far as I'm aware.

He wasn't even top of the leaderboard, or the most exceptional dance of the opening shows (certainly the funniest, though). He's also way ahead on You Tube views (156k just 2 days later!!!)

ETA: so sorry to hear your news, fridgesoup - hope you get better quickly”

Just delved into the archives and found this:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...4&postcount=60

So Jay was at 140k after 24 hours
Judge Rinder was at 118k this morning so roughly 36 hours.

Also Rinders 36 hour stat above (118k) was taken at 10:00am on Sunday.
Jays stat from Monday following his Jive was after about 40 hours at 1:00pm but it was 393k
CatO9Tales
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“Just delved into the archives and found this:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...4&postcount=60

So Jay was at 140k after 24 hours
Judge Rinder was at 118k this morning so roughly 36 hours.”

And not reflected in the figure (because, as we know, YouTube doesn't count repeat viewings) is the number of times people kept rewatching the jive - I remember many people posting that they viewed it over and over again.
jayfan
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by Lola the cat:
“Ahhh, now I get which step it is - yeah still don't agree with him

https://youtu.be/KJGrzuTPj2o”

I also don't think Jaliona did this step in the jive.

Jill Halfpenny might have.
Isih
25-09-2016
I am well impressed with all this statistical stuff (bows down to all those involved).

So, is J ahead still or not? I am even more confused. If so, this means Strictly tell FIBS - I am shocked and horrified.
janetshep
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by Isih:
“I am well impressed with all this statistical stuff (bows down to all those involved).

So, is J ahead still or not? I am even more confused. If so, this means Strictly tell FIBS - I am shocked and horrified.”


I think it means that Jay is ahead on you-tube (ie people who had to go and look for it) but Rinder is ahead on SCD facebook (where anyone who logs on is presented with it )


ETA - Fridgesoup. Really sorry to hear that you are in hospital - hope you are on something stronger than jelly soon!
BionicBard
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“Connection

Only last year
Came a dancer so rare
Whose presence is still
So heavy on the air

One year ago
It was so clear
That his lyrical dancing
Was entering another sphere

The clocks in two hearts
Ticked in perfect sync
It was their time
For the perfect link

Invisible heartstrings
Joined together
Tugged at emotions
Birds of one feather

When two lives touch
Connect and meet
Forge a network of ties
Dance to the same beat

True art is created
So moving and pure
And poetical dancing
Will always endure”

Yes it will. You tell their story so well.

No contest between Judge R and J&A's jive. Different reasons to watch - The Judge for his chutzpah, and J&A for their sensational dancing.

Fridgesoup that doesn't sound very nice at all, hope you feel much better soon
Sarahfi
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by fridgesoup:
“Hello peeps. Just wanted to pop in quickly to explain being MIA since Wimbledon. Been really poorly, though in my less feverish moments have read and enjoyed the reports. Wasn't actually well on the morning of KD but stuffed myself with over the counter meds and made sure I enjoyed myself (and had rallied by later in the day). I won't bore you with the deets, but what I assumed was a tummy upset that refused to die, turned out to be something else and I ended up in hospital last night. They've been stuffing me with fluids and IV antibiotics and am feeling miles better. Not seen Strictly yet (that shows you how rotten I felt 😜 ). Not eaten since last Sunday and on 'clear fluids' only. Apparently that includes jelly, so that's what I'm getting for tea. Yum 🤒”

Bless you! Hope you feel better soon! Sorry not to see you at Wimbledon, but myself and the sister went on Friday.
janetshep
25-09-2016
I meant to post this the other week, but forgot. It's a prediction from a Guardian journalist of the finishing order for SCD 2016. Having seen week 1, it looks like he is badly wrong!! And I really hope he is wrong about Tameka.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...estants-ranked
Tsuntsu bird
25-09-2016
fridgesoup I hope you will soon be at home and feeling better. It sounds horrendous. Perhaps they will let you have some custard with your jelly. After all in Aliona we trust!!

Whiffle I have some Sky CDs as well and listen to them occasionally with a feeling of nostalgia. Always loved John Williams.
BMLisa
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by janetshep:
“I meant to post this the other week, but forgot. It's a prediction from a Guardian journalist of the finishing order for SCD 2016. Having seen week 1, it looks like he is badly wrong!! And I really hope he is wrong about Tameka.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...estants-ranked”

Ha ha I'd love to see the 2015 version
StrictlyRed
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by Lola the cat:
“Has anyone seen this tweet from Neil Jones - I think he just be right is his assertion that some might disagree with the bit about kick ball changes No idea what sugar push it, perhaps someone can explain.

Neil Jones ‏@Mr_NJones 3h3 hours ago
I know a lot of people will disagree but technically @LouiseRedknapp just pulled off the highest level of kick ball changes and sugar push
”

I have no idea whether or not these steps were technically perfect, BUT - just because someone managed to perfect a particular step - doesn't make the whole dance the best jive evah!!
BionicBard
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“I have no idea whether or not these steps were technically perfect, BUT - just because someone managed to perfect a particular step - doesn't make the whole dance the best jive evah!!”

I thought Luoise danced like she had lead weights in her shoes.
KorkyTheCat
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“I have no idea whether or not these steps were technically perfect, BUT - just because someone managed to perfect a particular step - doesn't make the whole dance the best jive evah!!”

Isn't Neil pals with Kevin?
Isih
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by janetshep:
“I meant to post this the other week, but forgot. It's a prediction from a Guardian journalist of the finishing order for SCD 2016. Having seen week 1, it looks like he is badly wrong!! And I really hope he is wrong about Tameka.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...estants-ranked”

I was assuming he was doing it in reverse order of leaving, but now I'm not sure
Whiffle_09
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by jayfan:
“Whiffle - could you post the link to your Strictly Journey video again. I have not looked at it for a while.
Many thanks”

Here you are Jayfan
https://youtu.be/qe2-Om4lOoY
Thanks to all who have watched it
I'm off now - brain & laptop are VERY tired after working on collating your KD reviews - half way there. You were all certainly inspired by what you saw
BMLisa
25-09-2016
Right to simplify it, it's now more or less 48 hours since JR danced.

Judge Rinder 48 hour figure: 186k
Jay 42 hour figure: 394k
StrictlyRed
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by janetshep:
“I meant to post this the other week, but forgot. It's a prediction from a Guardian journalist of the finishing order for SCD 2016. Having seen week 1, it looks like he is badly wrong!! And I really hope he is wrong about Tameka.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...estants-ranked”

So Danny Mac out first according to that!

No Mystic Meg is he?

😂😂😂
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