Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“Oh yes . The results show is on. I'll see that later”
“Oh yes . The results show is on. I'll see that later”
Just watched it again with the right glasses on
and actually they were a bit gurny 
Jay McGuiness and Aliona Vilani appreciation thread - Part 6
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Originally Posted by Lola the cat:
“Danny's dance for next week
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“Danny's dance for next week
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I'm gonna vote Jay just for giggles! 😂
Originally Posted by Whiffle_09:
“*Refers to finalists stats spreadsheet - I knew it would come in handy one day*
KK only scored 32 with their Charleston 4 less than Claudia & AJ
ETA Spree beat me to it
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“*Refers to finalists stats spreadsheet - I knew it would come in handy one day*
KK only scored 32 with their Charleston 4 less than Claudia & AJ
ETA Spree beat me to it
”
Thanks both
Wasn't it considered a mega dance though? They repeated the charleston in the final (I think?)
Are the higher scores for Claudia deserved or is it a sign of 'scoring' / grade inflation?
Originally Posted by RaffertyCat:
“Great Lola. I'll dig out the GLARE (Garment Location And Retrieval Expediter). It hasn't been used for a while, but I'm sure it will help us to find him more quickly. Less chance of being caught.......Tee-hee.
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“Great Lola. I'll dig out the GLARE (Garment Location And Retrieval Expediter). It hasn't been used for a while, but I'm sure it will help us to find him more quickly. Less chance of being caught.......Tee-hee.
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I haven't heard of one of them, but it sounds good. Dust it off and fire it up - don't you love it when a plan starts to come to fruition
We are going to have to decide what to do with him when we do rescue him - do we deliver him to Spree first to pat her on the back when she is coughing? Decisions, decisions 
Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“Just to say, Rafferty, that I agree with you and BB that J's imperfections in any of his dances did not detract one iota from my enjoyment. I've said that from the beginning. I was lost in each dance. He created a mood, an atmosphere, an aura, which is often hard for me to climb out of when watching his dancing.”
“Just to say, Rafferty, that I agree with you and BB that J's imperfections in any of his dances did not detract one iota from my enjoyment. I've said that from the beginning. I was lost in each dance. He created a mood, an atmosphere, an aura, which is often hard for me to climb out of when watching his dancing.”
Agreed - if it weren't for the worry about the fudges!
Originally Posted by Lola the cat:
“Bailiffs - pah, and double pah
What we have to do is think BIG! No, not that BIG, I'm thinking tunnel boring machine;
http://www.arup.com/~/media/Images/P...?mh=800mw=1000
Ok, it's a bit "boys toys" but we could get together an International Rescue Party, bit like Thunderbirds and have a go at tunnelling to Chez Korks. Steal into her abode whilst she is in the bath for 2 hours (see I do read posts) and liberate the Jay.
Is this a plan, or is this a plan?
I really hope Isih's son and dil never do try to analyse us, or me - I am sane - honestly”
“Bailiffs - pah, and double pah
What we have to do is think BIG! No, not that BIG, I'm thinking tunnel boring machine;
http://www.arup.com/~/media/Images/P...?mh=800mw=1000
Ok, it's a bit "boys toys" but we could get together an International Rescue Party, bit like Thunderbirds and have a go at tunnelling to Chez Korks. Steal into her abode whilst she is in the bath for 2 hours (see I do read posts
) and liberate the Jay.Is this a plan, or is this a plan?
I really hope Isih's son and dil never do try to analyse us, or me - I am sane - honestly
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That is a wowser of an idea, Lola.
And don't worry about the analysing - remember he's had 40 years of me to contend with. (I shall be seeing them week after next
)
Originally Posted by Whiffle_09:
“*Refers to finalists stats spreadsheet - I knew it would come in handy one day*
KK only scored 32 with their Charleston 4 less than Claudia & AJ
ETA Spree beat me to it”
“*Refers to finalists stats spreadsheet - I knew it would come in handy one day*
KK only scored 32 with their Charleston 4 less than Claudia & AJ
ETA Spree beat me to it
”
Korky - behave yourself and get the Doctor over to Spree, Rafferty and other sufferers AT ONCE
Sneezes travel very quickly, I believe!
At this point, I was still enjoying KK's dances for what they were. How little did I know!
And hannah (and others) reverting to Dancing on Ice - Mathew is NEVER mentioned in the pantheon of winners, that I know of, despite Katarina Witt eulogising him. This seems to be happening with our boy, except if the Beeb can make some publicity out of it
Or am I just bitter and twisted?
Don't answer that!
Originally Posted by CatO9Tales:
“Just watched it again with the right glasses on and actually they were a bit gurny ”
“Just watched it again with the right glasses on
and actually they were a bit gurny ”
I'm not sure I'd want to do a rumba with him if he pulled that face, if that's his loving face...er yuck!
Originally Posted by Lola the cat:
“I'm not sure I'd want to do a rumba with him if he pulled that face, if that's his loving face...er yuck!”
“I'm not sure I'd want to do a rumba with him if he pulled that face, if that's his loving face...er yuck!
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That made me LOL.😂😂
Originally Posted by RaffertyCat:
“
BIB. Oh, TT. I have a feeling of deja vu coming on. I can remember rearing up, in mildly inappropriate high dudgeon, when you used the word, 'nightmare', at the time. I thought that Jay's QuickStep was a delight, and I only noticed one slight oopsie: when he slid a bit, at the end of a run. I thought it was exuberant, and very clever. I marvelled at all the intricate footwork: learned so quickly, and executed so beautifully. It was miles and miles ahead of any of the other contestants, imo. In fact way beyond their reach, ever (and that goes for this lot, too, imo). I came away on a high. So I was really disappointed to learn, that the dance which had given me such joy, had, in fact been riddled with mistakes: the majority of which I hadn't noticed. Really came down to earth with a bump. Then I marvelled at Jay's ingenuity in being able to cover so brilliantly: to carry on, and bring the dance to a satisfactory end. I then concluded that the video of his QuickStep should be included in a Masterclass "What to do When Things Go Wrong". I have a special place in my heart for Jay's QuickStep: it tried, so very hard, to be good.”
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BIB. Oh, TT. I have a feeling of deja vu coming on. I can remember rearing up, in mildly inappropriate high dudgeon, when you used the word, 'nightmare', at the time. I thought that Jay's QuickStep was a delight, and I only noticed one slight oopsie: when he slid a bit, at the end of a run. I thought it was exuberant, and very clever. I marvelled at all the intricate footwork: learned so quickly, and executed so beautifully. It was miles and miles ahead of any of the other contestants, imo. In fact way beyond their reach, ever (and that goes for this lot, too, imo). I came away on a high. So I was really disappointed to learn, that the dance which had given me such joy, had, in fact been riddled with mistakes: the majority of which I hadn't noticed. Really came down to earth with a bump. Then I marvelled at Jay's ingenuity in being able to cover so brilliantly: to carry on, and bring the dance to a satisfactory end. I then concluded that the video of his QuickStep should be included in a Masterclass "What to do When Things Go Wrong". I have a special place in my heart for Jay's QuickStep: it tried, so very hard, to be good.”
Well, all I can say now is what I (seem to) remember saying back then - it's really nice that the dance gave pleasure to some people. I was behind the sofa! But I won't call bad good just because it's J. I love his dancing and take endless pleasure from re-watching his good dances, and even his average dances because there are always glimpses of loveliness in them. It was a model example of how not to stop when it all goes pear shaped, and you can see them starting to laugh about it about 2/3 of the way through, but that's about it. Gritting my teeth and plunging in - these are the real biggies (putting it in a spoiler to save space):
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Originally Posted by Isih:
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And hannah (and others) reverting to Dancing on Ice - Mathew is NEVER mentioned in the pantheon of winners, that I know of, despite Katarina Witt eulogising him. This seems to be happening with our boy, except if the Beeb can make some publicity out of it
Or am I just bitter and twisted?
Don't answer that!”
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And hannah (and others) reverting to Dancing on Ice - Mathew is NEVER mentioned in the pantheon of winners, that I know of, despite Katarina Witt eulogising him. This seems to be happening with our boy, except if the Beeb can make some publicity out of it
Or am I just bitter and twisted?
Don't answer that!”
Matt Lapinskas seemed to disappear into obscurity as he split with his girlfriend Shona to go out with Brianne Delcourte and then dumped her for his co-star in his stage show.
What a nice chap!!!!
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“But he's still a little tentative and it's not 100%.”
“But he's still a little tentative and it's not 100%.”
I'm not surprised he was ruddy well tentative! He was first on the floor, dancing a routine that went spectacularly wrong first time round and he was quite obviously bricking it. He danced brilliantly under the circumstances
Originally Posted by CatO9Tales:
“I'm not surprised he was ruddy well tentative! He was first on the floor, dancing a routine that went spectacularly wrong first time round and he was quite obviously bricking it. He danced brilliantly under the circumstances”
“I'm not surprised he was ruddy well tentative! He was first on the floor, dancing a routine that went spectacularly wrong first time round and he was quite obviously bricking it. He danced brilliantly under the circumstances”
Oh, I wasn't meaning to criticize - under the circs, his performance in the final was a marvel. I was so proud of him.
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“Well, all I can say now is what I (seem to) remember saying back then - it's really nice that the dance gave pleasure to some people. I was behind the sofa! But I won't call bad good just because it's J. I love his dancing and take endless pleasure from re-watching his good dances, and even his average dances because there are always glimpses of loveliness in them. It was a model example of how not to stop when it all goes pear shaped, and you can see them starting to laugh about it about 2/3 of the way through, but that's about it. Gritting my teeth and plunging in - these are the real biggies (putting it in a spoiler to save space):
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“Well, all I can say now is what I (seem to) remember saying back then - it's really nice that the dance gave pleasure to some people. I was behind the sofa! But I won't call bad good just because it's J. I love his dancing and take endless pleasure from re-watching his good dances, and even his average dances because there are always glimpses of loveliness in them. It was a model example of how not to stop when it all goes pear shaped, and you can see them starting to laugh about it about 2/3 of the way through, but that's about it. Gritting my teeth and plunging in - these are the real biggies (putting it in a spoiler to save space):
Spoiler
Just re: your spoiler, I think the theme and music was foisted on them as a Handicap after the Jive. I always watch the way Jay takes the cape off in the final and hurls it in disgust at the floor as a sign of his feelings about that part, and he'd never have done that if Aliona had wanted it done that original week 4 way- he had far too much respect for her. Watch the beginning of both versions. Jays attitude on the final is "let it be known I think this is bollox" 😂😂
I know people thought I was a bit of a conspiracy theorist about the final but I still think the way they played it (jay's actions in the final QS the way they danced the Paso with emphasis on MY life, their speech about doing it on their own terms, the red Paso lights with blue highlights, pretty much the Jive lighting on their paso, the judges attitudes) all lead me to believe there were definitely let's say disagreements between J&A and production.
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“Just re: your spoiler, I think the theme and music was foisted on them as a Handicap after the Jive. I always watch the way Jay takes the cape off in the final and hurls it in disgust at the floor as a sign of his feelings about that part, and he'd never have done that if Aliona had wanted it done that original week 4 way- he had far too much respect for her. Watch the beginning of both versions. Jays attitude on the final is "let it be known I think this is bollox" 😂😂”
“Just re: your spoiler, I think the theme and music was foisted on them as a Handicap after the Jive. I always watch the way Jay takes the cape off in the final and hurls it in disgust at the floor as a sign of his feelings about that part, and he'd never have done that if Aliona had wanted it done that original week 4 way- he had far too much respect for her. Watch the beginning of both versions. Jays attitude on the final is "let it be known I think this is bollox" 😂😂”
I'm inclined to agree that the music was foisted on them as revenge / deliberate attempt to cut him down. Costume would likewise have been foisted on them. Not sure about the choreography - I think Aliona has a free hand in that. Generally speaking, we know she won't tolerate interference. But I always thought he hated that part of the dance and couldn't get rid of the gown fast enough!
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“I'm inclined to agree that the music was foisted on them as revenge / deliberate attempt to cut him down. Costume would likewise have been foisted on them. Not sure about the choreography - I think Aliona has a free hand in that. Generally speaking, we know she won't tolerate interference. But I always thought he hated that part of the dance and couldn't get rid of the gown fast enough!”
“I'm inclined to agree that the music was foisted on them as revenge / deliberate attempt to cut him down. Costume would likewise have been foisted on them. Not sure about the choreography - I think Aliona has a free hand in that. Generally speaking, we know she won't tolerate interference. But I always thought he hated that part of the dance and couldn't get rid of the gown fast enough!”
I seriously doubt Aliona would want to do the selfie, I think they were given the gowns and selfie part and Aliona would have choreographed the moves up to where he removes the gown, but QS is one dance where Aliona has never faffed before.
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“I seriously doubt Aliona would want to do the selfie, I think they were given the gowns and selfie part and Aliona would have choreographed the moves up to where he removes the gown, but QS is one dance where Aliona has never faffed before.”
“I seriously doubt Aliona would want to do the selfie, I think they were given the gowns and selfie part and Aliona would have choreographed the moves up to where he removes the gown, but QS is one dance where Aliona has never faffed before.”
Just compared to the final again, and the second crash landing was even more of a disaster than I had thought, as it caused them to miss a whole section of really nice choreography which he performed in the final (don't know what to call it - it's a sort of rotating Charleston-ish thing also contained in Harry's routine - I'm sure someone out there will be able to better describe the step!) Considering what had happened in the original, the mental strength he exhibited with his performance in the Final is really astonishing.
ETA: I thought Claudia's Charleston was far better than Kellie's. The theme for Kellie was good, but it was all just terribly neat and un-inspired (compare to Georgia and J's dancing in their Charlestons). And how could you get anything better than Bugsy Malone for a Charleston?
Originally Posted by Isih:
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Korky - behave yourself and get the Doctor over to Spree, Rafferty and other sufferers AT ONCE
Sneezes travel very quickly, I believe!”
“
Korky - behave yourself and get the Doctor over to Spree, Rafferty and other sufferers AT ONCE
Sneezes travel very quickly, I believe!”
Originally Posted by Lola the cat:
“I haven't heard of one of them, but it sounds good. Dust it off and fire it up - don't you love it when a plan starts to come to fruition We are going to have to decide what to do with him when we do rescue him - do we deliver him to Spree first to pat her on the back when she is coughing? Decisions, decisions ”
“I haven't heard of one of them, but it sounds good. Dust it off and fire it up - don't you love it when a plan starts to come to fruition
We are going to have to decide what to do with him when we do rescue him - do we deliver him to Spree first to pat her on the back when she is coughing? Decisions, decisions ”
Please!!! *said weakly and hoarsely from the couch* Can he be my life-sized pillow?
ETA: I don't think I have watched the week 4 QS completely until this day.
Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“Hi Sabbatical
Yes Greg looked anxious (well actually the word that sprang to mind was in pain) and the only thing I "saw" was the acting. Oh and sorry he looked bandy legged and still has those pigeon toes🐥
So not heresy at all.😜”
“Hi Sabbatical
Yes Greg looked anxious (well actually the word that sprang to mind was in pain) and the only thing I "saw" was the acting. Oh and sorry he looked bandy legged and still has those pigeon toes🐥
So not heresy at all.😜”
Phew! Thought it was just me! I seem to be out of step with everyone this year. Didn't love Ore either and preferred Daisy. Each to their own I guess!
Originally Posted by Sabbatical:
“Phew! Thought it was just me! I seem to be out of step with everyone this year. Didn't love Ore either and preferred Daisy. Each to their own I guess!”
“Phew! Thought it was just me! I seem to be out of step with everyone this year. Didn't love Ore either and preferred Daisy. Each to their own I guess!”
I can see from the Forum that the results are officially in, so I can talk about it.
WTF Laura in the bottom 2? But it's this sort of mid-table bunching that I think might cause shock eliminations this year.
So glad Tameka's gone. I couldn't stand her and thought she was a godawful dancer. No neck so she was never going to be elegant (and you know what I'm like about neck and shoulders), and she was just too loud without actually being funny. I wished for her elimination up-thread but never thought I'd get it so soon! Shame about Gorka but hopefully he'll be back next year. I expect Naga will go next.
Originally Posted by spreeathen:
“I expect the residual cough to stay for at least another one or two weeks. ....Unfortunately, our resident nurse has not been released by Korky to tend to his jaydical duties. ”
“I expect the residual cough to stay for at least another one or two weeks.
....Unfortunately, our resident nurse has not been released by Korky to tend to his jaydical duties. ”
Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“ I think we are going to have to arrange for the bailiffs to go and rescue Jay from Korky's clutches. She owes some dues on his electrical/plumbing work. A body could wither away waiting for the doctor....”
“ I think we are going to have to arrange for the bailiffs to go and rescue Jay from Korky's clutches. She owes some dues on his electrical/plumbing work.
A body could wither away waiting for the doctor....”
spree definitely requires nursing - hope you feel better soon.
So J needs rescuing hannah
He's obviously looking up plumbing technology in a very old book.
Originally Posted by RaffertyCat:
“....I loved Jay's Quickathon, too, BB. Any ghosts he may have had, regarding his original QS, were finally laid to rest, I think. He seemed to be really enjoying himself, and I felt swept along with him. Only thing is: it was far too short: I would have liked it to have gone on, for much longer......”
“....I loved Jay's Quickathon, too, BB. Any ghosts he may have had, regarding his original QS, were finally laid to rest, I think. He seemed to be really enjoying himself, and I felt swept along with him. Only thing is: it was far too short: I would have liked it to have gone on, for much longer......”
Oh, I loved, loved J and A's QSathon and their Final QS
Originally Posted by Lola the cat:
“....Ok, it's a bit "boys toys" but we could get together an International Rescue Party, bit like Thunderbirds and have a go at tunnelling to Chez Korks. Steal into her abode whilst she is in the bath for 2 hours (see I do read posts) and liberate the Jay. :”
“....Ok, it's a bit "boys toys" but we could get together an International Rescue Party, bit like Thunderbirds and have a go at tunnelling to Chez Korks. Steal into her abode whilst she is in the bath for 2 hours (see I do read posts
) and liberate the Jay. :”
Thunderbirds? I'm in
- and I'm a girl! (or I was many years ago)
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“.... Considering what had happened in the original, the mental strength he exhibited with his performance in the Final is really astonishing.”
“.... Considering what had happened in the original, the mental strength he exhibited with his performance in the Final is really astonishing.”
J showing 'grace under pressure' - again
and on the following week's ITT
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“Just compared to the final again, and the second crash landing was even more of a disaster than I had thought, as it caused them to miss a whole section of really nice choreography which he performed in the final (don't know what to call it - it's a sort of rotating Charleston-ish thing also contained in Harry's routine - I'm sure someone out there will be able to better describe the step!) Considering what had happened in the original, the mental strength he exhibited with his performance in the Final is really astonishing.
ETA: I thought Claudia's Charleston was far better than Kellie's. The theme for Kellie was good, but it was all just terribly neat and un-inspired (compare to Georgia and J's dancing in their Charlestons). And how could you get anything better than Bugsy Malone for a Charleston?”
“Just compared to the final again, and the second crash landing was even more of a disaster than I had thought, as it caused them to miss a whole section of really nice choreography which he performed in the final (don't know what to call it - it's a sort of rotating Charleston-ish thing also contained in Harry's routine - I'm sure someone out there will be able to better describe the step!) Considering what had happened in the original, the mental strength he exhibited with his performance in the Final is really astonishing.
ETA: I thought Claudia's Charleston was far better than Kellie's. The theme for Kellie was good, but it was all just terribly neat and un-inspired (compare to Georgia and J's dancing in their Charlestons). And how could you get anything better than Bugsy Malone for a Charleston?”
I went off conventional Charlestons (and by "conventional", I mean conventional steps, regardless of theming) a couple of years ago. In it's conventional form, the decent, fit dancers are all able to do it well and it's tailor-made for athletic types who can do cartwheels and back-flips - I'm not dissing that ability, just not keen on it on the dance floor. I loved Jay's Charleston because it was so very different, although even then I could have done without all but one of the lifts - the floorwork was so astoundingly good, they just weren't necessary.
Originally Posted by Sabbatical:
“Phew! Thought it was just me! I seem to be out of step with everyone this year. Didn't love Ore either and preferred Daisy. Each to their own I guess!”
“Phew! Thought it was just me! I seem to be out of step with everyone this year. Didn't love Ore either and preferred Daisy. Each to their own I guess!”
I didn't love Ore, either, and not overly keen on Greg's performance.
Originally Posted by CatO9Tales:
“I went off conventional Charlestons (and by "conventional", I mean conventional steps, regardless of theming) a couple of years ago. In it's conventional form, the decent, fit dancers are all able to do it well and it's tailor-made for athletic types who can do cartwheels and back-flips - I'm not dissing that ability, just not keen on it on the dance floor. I loved Jay's Charleston because it was so very different, although even then I could have done without all but one of the lifts - the floorwork was so astoundingly good, they just weren't necessary.”
“I went off conventional Charlestons (and by "conventional", I mean conventional steps, regardless of theming) a couple of years ago. In it's conventional form, the decent, fit dancers are all able to do it well and it's tailor-made for athletic types who can do cartwheels and back-flips - I'm not dissing that ability, just not keen on it on the dance floor. I loved Jay's Charleston because it was so very different, although even then I could have done without all but one of the lifts - the floorwork was so astoundingly good, they just weren't necessary.”
Interesting - so which one of the lifts would you have kept in?
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“Interesting - so which one of the lifts would you have kept in?”
“Interesting - so which one of the lifts would you have kept in?”
The second one - and then it's really just a sop to the conventional "Strictly Charlestons have lifts", to be honest.
I love the dance the Charleston has become in KD (except for the last section) - the footwork is even hotter ... and the dance even cooler ..
Originally Posted by CatO9Tales:
“The second one - and then it's really just a sop to the conventional "Strictly Charlestons have lifts", to be honest.
I love the dance the Charleston has become in KD (except for the last section) - the footwork is even hotter ... and the dance even cooler ..”
“The second one - and then it's really just a sop to the conventional "Strictly Charlestons have lifts", to be honest.
I love the dance the Charleston has become in KD (except for the last section) - the footwork is even hotter ... and the dance even cooler ..
”
*runs off to check*
Hmm. I think I'd leave both first and second one in. The rest I agree were unnecessary - the lightning footwork was doing all that was needed and was making it an exceptional Charleston. J's dancing was just amazing and by that point in the competition they were dancing so much as a team it was just brilliant to watch.
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
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Well we all know it's inevitable but if we judge the quickstep that Jay and Aliona did in the final I don't think I've seen choreography that complex Aliona really did make a quickstep as complex as that dreadful song.. however I absolutely loved the quickstep I know a lot didn't like it much but Jay and Aliona were really moving together and so bloody fast and again I didn't see anything wrong with Jays top line was as good as Harry's considering his taller than harry so Aliona did great making it look effortless, no gapping issue either.. we'll wait and see if Danny boy can do such a fast complex routine, one thing for sure I pretty much doubt he'll get such a song as 'my generation', he and Oti have been gifted with good songs since they've started.
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