Jay McGuiness and Aliona Vilani appreciation thread - Part 6

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hannah 01.

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by jayfan:
“I don't think I am just looking at it through Jay coloured glasses but the technique was just not as good. Athletic yes. Joanne out of breath at the end yes. I thought Louise's was better than Ore's in terms of technique.

Just all so scripted and staged to grab the viewers.”

Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“My theory: Len hates Ore.

If there is one thing he could have said guaranteed to get Jay's fans to give their votes anywhere but at him, it was that.”

I also was going to discuss teknik in the flicks and kicks which was pretty poor to be honest. He lost count and forgot to point his toes on more than one or two occasions. But, again to be honest, after that debacle of marking and commentary I can't be bothered. If the so called ballroom judge cannot or will not comment on the footwork in a jive then why should I care.

The comment re Jay was completely unnecessary and, yes, was a ploy of some sort.

Anyhoo apparently this is not a competition for just this year's celebs. Next week Darcy will say Daisy danced a better Tango than Abbey.

So I'm out of here. Byeeee

jayfan

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by dancing-girl:
“Jay and Aliona jive was mesmerising. Edge seat I need to watch that again and again.

Ore'sE version is good and it's different. I won't be rewatching, once is enough and my votes went to Ed and Katya.”

I didn't vote but if I had it would have been for Ed or Lesley. Haven't seen all the dances yet though.
What was Claudia like?

KorkyTheCat

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by Whiffle_09:
“Unfortunately the manipulation is now so obvious, especially after last year. Maybe TPTB thought that as there was such an overwhelmingly positive response to Jalionas' jive they would try to artificially replicate it. But lightning doesn't strike twice & it could all backfire. Spotted more than one or two bits of copying too Korky.”

Unfortunately if some viewers are told by "experts" that something is good/better they will believe it. I am just so thankful, dear Whiffle, that we have J's beautiful dances on YouTube and here to wallow in.

Isih

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by BionicBard:
“It had none of the smooth, cool, easy style, vibe and grace of Jay's jive. And Aliona's brilliant partnering and innovative choreography.

But I'm not surprised by the comments from the judges - they'll want a Clifton win this year and the odds have now been lengthened with Will's departure. I was going to spread my votes tonight, but they all went to Danny and Oti - he's a far better dancer than Ore could ever hope to be.”

Picked BB's comment to reply to because of BIB- BigSis calls it the vague, gentle anarchy that Jay (and Aliona) brought to all their dances!

Thought Lesley was brill, love Anton's delight
Love Daisy but thought she was a bit careful in the rumba
Wish they would give JRR a chance, he does have signs of being able to move his legs properly

Still not got a want to win

I liked Ore's jive, but he doesn't have the legs that Jay has (or other bits, but lets me mildly technical about this). I don't think Jo pinched Aliona's choreography so much as payed homage to it, and I think Ore was genuinely moved by the reaction to it. Darcey's week four 10 - pah! Bruno the only honest one amongst them - or the only one with a working memory!

I think unless he goes all cocky about it next week, I will prefer Ore to Danny as being less polished.

Ano

15-10-2016

I know we all have our subjective opinions but really some people really think ores jive is better than THAT jive... it's actually not surprising at the least that people who are saying ores routine tonight was better than jays are actually people who detested Jay from the get go.. makes me laugh actually reading some of these remarks.. did Ore's jive actually get the same spontaneous reaction as Jays?? I couldn't watch until the end I had enough at that point where comments were starting to be made.

Whiffle_09

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“Unfortunately if some viewers are told by "experts" that something is good/better they will believe it. I am just so thankful, dear Whiffle, that we have J's beautiful dances on YouTube and here to wallow in. ”

Just been for a quick wallow. Looks like a lot of people are going to YouTube to rewatch Jalionas' jive

jayfan

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by Ano:
“I know we all have our subjective opinions but really some people really think ores mumbo jumbo of a jive is better than THAT jive... it's actually not surprising at the least that people who are saying ores routine tonight was better than jays are actually people who detested Jay from the get go.. makes me laugh actually reading some of these remarks.. did Ore's jive actually get the same spontaneous reaction as Jays?? I couldn't watch until the end I had enough at that point where comments where starting to be made.”

They tried very hard to suggest that it had. Tess said we have not a reaction like this since.. I thought she was going to say since Jay but didn't go quite that far. I didn't think the reaction was the same but I knew then it was going to get tens because the story line was obvious.
In fact I said to a friend when I heard about Ore's interview on ITT, that I thought he would get tens tonight. When I read that Danny had not got tens and realised Ore was on last, the only question was how many tens.

CatO9Tales

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by Isih:
“Picked BB's comment to reply to because of BIB- BigSis calls it the vague, gentle anarchy that Jay (and Aliona) brought to all their dances!

Thought Lesley was brill, love Anton's delight
Love Daisy but thought she was a bit careful in the rumba
Wish they would give JRR a chance, he does have signs of being able to move his legs properly

Still not got a want to win

I liked Ore's jive, but he doesn't have the legs that Jay has (or other bits, but lets me mildly technical about this). I don't think Jo pinched Aliona's choreography so much as payed homage to it, and I think Ore was genuinely moved by the reaction to it. Darcey's week four 10 - pah! Bruno the only honest one amongst them - or the only one with a working memory!

I think unless he goes all cocky about it next week, I will prefer Ore to Danny as being less polished.”

BIB Oh, so true and so brilliantly put! I loved that gentle anarchy.

Haven't watched Ore's jive yet. I switched off as they were about to dance because I had a suspicion something like this was going to happen. Might watch it tomorrow, might decide to give the whole flaming shemozzle a miss for the rest of the year.

ETA - Jayfan I think we're on the same wavelength this evening ....

KorkyTheCat

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by jayfan:
“I don't think I am going to stray to any other threads apart from a peak at the spoiler thread. I know it is not really rational but it will make me too cross.
Len didn't need to say that tonight.
Can't stand the game playing. Just like XFactor. Enjoyed the show more when I didn't realise that.
Will stick to watching the dance clips without the judges.”

I'm just so grateful that J has no connection with this farcical programme now and is on to far better things.

KorkyTheCat

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by Whiffle_09:
“Just been for a quick wallow. Looks like a lot of people are going to YouTube to rewatch Jalionas' jive”

I watch his Viennese Waltz a lot and his American Smooth and Foxtrot too. Pure beauty and grace...

sky_lark

15-10-2016

Hi everyone,

Not been for a while RL and lack of tablet due to hacking... argh oh weel

loved danny and oti though I cant get out of the habit of thinking of him as a professional

I love claudia and Aj and I really enjoed their quickstep I want them to win.

Laura and Daisy are also very good.

Ore and Joanne 3 x 10 for a jive on week 4 you are kidding me!!!!! And on a par with Jay you are aving a larf

KorkyTheCat

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by sky_lark:
“...Ore and Joanne 3 x 10 for a jive on week 4 you are kidding me!!!!! And on a par with Jay you are aving a larf”

Hello again!

Yes, I think the best thing to do tonight is laugh!

jayfan

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by sky_lark:
“Hi everyone,

Not been for a while RL and lack of tablet due to hacking... argh oh weel

loved danny and oti though I cant get out of the habit of thinking of him as a professional

I love claudia and Aj and I really enjoed their quickstep I want them to win.

Laura and Daisy are also very good.

Ore and Joanne 3 x 10 for a jive on week 4 you are kidding me!!!!! And on a par with Jay you are aving a larf”

Welcome back skylark

Glad to hear Claudia was good. I will wander off and have a look.

Drizzle1

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by fridgesoup:
“I thought Ore's jive was really good, but didn't like it nearly as much as Jay's. I really don't think it's worth getting het up over though. Comparing scores one week to the next is pointless, so from one year to another is utterly futile. Of course they have to create a bit of drama, and end up saying some numpty-ish things along the way, but whatevs. I just feel very 'shruggy' about that stuff .

My favourite dances tonight were Danny's QS (and I thought Laura's pretty decent, too), and Louise's foxtrot (albeit a touch polite). Judge Rinder's VW engaged me too. Claudia and AJ did a nice job.

Was a little disappointed in Lesley's charleston - though she did well with it. Thought the routine was a bit dull. Naga came out of her shell a little, which was nice to see. Neither rumba really lit my fire and Greg is being over praised. I admire his effort, but don't see the dancer yet.

Poor Ed. That didn't go to plan. Campy arms again, though the cape work was good. Threw him a couple of votes .”

Agree.

JuliePB

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by jayfan:
“They tried very hard to suggest that it had. Tess said we have not a reaction like this since.. I thought she was going to say since Jay but didn't go quite that far. I didn't think the reaction was the same but I knew then it was going to get tens because the story line was obvious.
In fact I said to a friend when I heard about Ore's interview on ITT, that I thought he would get tens tonight. When I read that Danny had not got tens and realised Ore was on last, the only question was how many tens.”

I said to MrB that if Danny's dance had been last in the running order, he would have got the 10s - a much cleaner and polished routine I think.

danceagogo

15-10-2016

Re jive and me moaning.....cos nothing will ever top that jive. Fact.
Forgot - it was week 3. 😂😂 That was the curse- not the content. If only Jay had got week 4........😱

OH - who listens, but doesn't participate...😭 and thinks I'm mental😎

What are you on about. Jay has made his own way and is an obvious success.
Thought there was something nice about that 🤗

Whiffle_09

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“I watch his Viennese Waltz a lot and his American Smooth and Foxtrot too. Pure beauty and grace...”

Hooked on the Charleston ATM - if I have a couple of mins to spare before going out. Though this morning it also led to salsa & jive

Ano

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by JuliePB:
“I said to MrB that if Danny's dance had been last in the running order, he would have got the 10s - a much cleaner and polished routine I think.”

Haven't been a fan of Danny his quick step was charming however his hold was peculiarly better than Oti's lol.. he just isn't very engaging but if the judges were going to dish out those 10's I would rather it have been for Danny much much much better than Ore's routine

Fairytootoo

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by Huph:
“Wait for the poll tomorrow on the main forum....Jay's or Ore's jive, what was your favourite??”

It's up already!

KorkyTheCat

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by Ano:
“Haven't been a fan of Danny his quick step was charming however his hold was peculiarly better than Oti's lol.. he just isn't very engaging but if the judges were going to dish out those 10's I would rather it have been for Danny much much much better than Ore's routine ”

I agree, but then that wouldn't have fitted the producers' script...

danceagogo

15-10-2016

Agree Soupy.

They're just trying to drum up interest, but did think Len's comnent was pointed and uncalled for, considering the good opinion he has of himself.

Hope you are well on to the way to recovery now.
Have been off the thread for a while. RL etc, etc😋

Huph

15-10-2016

Originally Posted by Fairytootoo:
“It's up already!”

I noticed

not even going to look.

jtnorth

15-10-2016

Hello. Just popping up here to admit I'm not enjoying this series. I miss J&A. I think I may have loved them so much, they might have ruined the show for me.

jayfan

15-10-2016

Just watched Claudia.
I really like watching her but have to look away from AJ.
She has a lot of grace and strength as you might expect from a gymnast I suppose. I didn't like the cheesiness of the routine though and didn't immediately recognise it as a foxtrot. I think with some more modern or interesting choreography she could be really, really good. I called her out as a finalist after the first week and would like to see her stay in.

jayfan

15-10-2016

[quote=jtnorth;84237092]Hello. Just popping up here to admit I'm not enjoying this series. I miss J&A. I think I may have loved them so much, they might have ruined the show for me.

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I don't think you are alone in that jnorth!

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