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Jay McGuiness and Aliona Vilani appreciation thread - Part 6
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rosaportalc
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by CatO9Tales:
“That's part of the instastory I mentioned earlier - wondered if you'd get it, Rosa ..”

It's such a lovely video. Couldn't resist to post it
Lola the cat
18-10-2016
Ok, back from watching penultimate episode of Stranger Things, it is so good if you haven't seen it.

Thing is with the Shytown songs, as I said a couple of weeks ago J has never publicly acknowledged them. In his interview yesterday with Radio Local he said something like "I haven't sung for 2 or 3 years since the band broke up apart from some karaoke". It would have been the ideal opportunity to say he had sung with some friends or anything but instead he stuck to the line of not making any reference to them. I know I've been watching a spooky programme and I'm seeing conspiracy theories everywhere but there must be an explanation as to why he is keeping schtum about it.

Anyway that's my input before I go off to bedfordshire to have nightmares about dancing with Anton "no, take that hairy chest away from me....aagh!!!!!!"
BionicBard
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by rosaportalc:
“I'm sorry! I was in lunch break, away from my laptop

Well, I might be exaggerating for some people but what happened really pissed me off. Basically I told Shytown I could help with promotion of Best You Had and he didn't really seem much interested about it at first, just said "sure". Then I told him about MD and he shrugged it off. It wasn't until I told him we got over 100k visits that he got really excited about it. He asked to be featured on MD, which I agreed with.

After that, I put him in a group message with Valentina and we offered to make the promo pic for BYH. He said we could do it if we wanted to but we had to look for the pics ourselves. All while repeating us to not forget to add aaaaall their social media URLs to the page we were going to feature him in (nothing bad about it, but it was kind of annoying, the way they were interrupting to bring the subject over and over again). Valentina made the pic and we sent 6 variations of it to them. They picked the one who they're currently using. We never got a thank you back.

Earlier today, they messaged us saying they wanted a new promo pic featuring the girl who remixed the song because "they needed to send it to radio stations". They gave us directions of how they wanted it and saying we should make the original one better by changing the text a bit. All of that without a "please" anywhere.
Vale sent the pics around 4 or 5 hours ago. They saw them and have started using them but, again, not a simple thank you. I wrote them back asking if they got it. Never got a reply.

A few minutes ago, I've messaged them again privately so Vale won't get too upset, saying "hey guys, did you get the message? We never got a thank you message back so we would like to know if the pics got send or we should send them again". They just replied "yes thank you" and that's it. I had to get the words out of them, basically.

As I said, maybe some people will think I'm exaggerating but it made me really upset. We're not asking for them to tell people the pic they're using to promote the song is ours or anything. But a "please" and "thank you" would be nice. The Shytown page has also been added to MD but, as you can see, no promo of it at all from their part. It makes us not want to help them with anything anymore ”

Not being exactly constructive, are they? I wonder if this kind of attitude was why Till The Roof Falls Down never really got the chance to take off? Maybe they don't really appreciate the importance of being loyal to their fan base - something The Wanted very much appreciated and went out of their way to cultivate. Jay is endlessly courteous and interested in his fans, and that's very endearing, especially as that interest is genuine and a part of his personality.

If they're seeking a record deal, and bearing in mind that Jay's fans are very proactive and vociferous, it would surely pay them to tap into that and not cause bad feeling by the kind of boorish behaviour you were subjected to.

It sounds very much like Shytown will benefit from revising their attitude if they want Jay's very loyal fan base to help in the promotion of the excellent remix. So I really hope someone gets this message through to them.

ETA I noticed that too, Lola, and I do wonder if there's some kind of rights issue going on in the background that prevents Jay from promoting his assocaition with them. I haven't seen anythng anywhere where he's even mentioned them, which does seem odd.
CatO9Tales
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by Lola the cat:
“Ok, back from watching penultimate episode of Stranger Things, it is so good if you haven't seen it.

Thing is with the Shytown songs, as I said a couple of weeks ago J has never publicly acknowledged them. In his interview yesterday with Radio Local he said something like "I haven't sung for 2 or 3 years since the band broke up apart from some karaoke". It would have been the ideal opportunity to say he had sung with some friends or anything but instead he stuck to the line of not making any reference to them. I know I've been watching a spooky programme and I'm seeing conspiracy theories everywhere but there must be an explanation as to why he is keeping schtum about it.

Anyway that's my input before I go off to bedfordshire to have nightmares about dancing with Anton "no, take that hairy chest away from me....aagh!!!!!!"”

Yep. Have felt the same way.
Gill P
18-10-2016
I have listened to the radio interview, thanks for the link, His voice does sound a little gruff!
rosaportalc
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by BionicBard:
“Not being exactly constructive, are they? I wonder if this kind of attitude was why Till The Roof Falls Down never really got the chance to take off? Maybe they don't really appreciate the importance of being loyal to their fan base - something The Wanted very much appreciated and went out of their way to cultivate. Jay is endlessly courteous and interested in his fans, and that's very endearing, especially as that interest is genuine and a part of his personality.

If they're seeking a record deal, and bearing in mind that Jay's fans are very proactive and vociferous, it would surely pay them to tap into that and not cause bad feeling by the kind of boorish behaviour you were subjected to.

It sounds very much like Shytown will benefit from revising their attitude if they want Jay's very loyal fan base to help in the promotion of the excellent remix. So I really hope someone gets this message through to them.”

Yep. As I said, they always seem to say thanks to their fans, but other than that I feel like they're letting the fans (Jay's fans) to do the job. Which is not bad, but we're talking about people who's suppossedly already known in the industry, so I don't know what to think.
I didn't tell them we wouldn't help anymore but I did tell them that "we didn't get a 'thank you' back". If they ask for anything similar again, I'll make it clear.

Originally Posted by Lola the cat:
“Thing is with the Shytown songs, as I said a couple of weeks ago J has never publicly acknowledged them. In his interview yesterday with Radio Local he said something like "I haven't sung for 2 or 3 years since the band broke up apart from some karaoke". It would have been the ideal opportunity to say he had sung with some friends or anything but instead he stuck to the line of not making any reference to them. I know I've been watching a spooky programme and I'm seeing conspiracy theories everywhere but there must be an explanation as to why he is keeping schtum about it.”

Yep, that's what I was talking with a friend earlier. I don't want to assume things but I remember we all wondering why Jay didn't do any promo for the song. Ok, he was busy or he just wanted to hang out with friends. That's normal. But he could have retweeted something or at least liked some tweets that talked about the song? It is kind of weird he didn't even do that. It's like the song just doesn't exist for him. He doesn't deny it, he just doesn't talk about it. At all. Maybe if a journalist do their job and actually asks him about it, we could get a better explanation.

ETA: They do talk highly of Jay, though. I'll give them that. But now I wonder if they "exaggerate" a bit just because they notice his fans want to help and Jay's still in everybody's minds.
Toasted Toad
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“Now confused.
Have a picture of Kevin Clifton dressed as Hillary Clinton stuck in my head .”

oops! Predictive text on my iPad evidently jumping to conclusions!
KorkyTheCat
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by BionicBard:
“...and I do wonder if there's some kind of rights issue going on in the background that prevents Jay from promoting his assocation with them. I haven't seen anythng anywhere where he's even mentioned them, which does seem odd.”



Could it be that for some reason J is not included in receiving royalties from this collaboration?
rosaportalc
18-10-2016
Just got a DM from Shytown saying they "absolutely love the artwork" and asking if we have a website or something they can promote.

I honestly don't know what to think. Their behavious has done a 180° turn. I'm starting to think it's more than one people answering the messages. And if that's so, they should clear that up. There are probably other dedicated fans who also never got a thank you back.
KorkyTheCat
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“I have listened to the radio interview, thanks for the link, His voice does sound a little gruff!”

I'll be plying him with this before bed tonight...

http://www.herbalproduct.co.in/image...big/jaydil.jpg
Toasted Toad
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by rosaportalc:
“Just got a DM from Shytown saying they "absolutely love the artwork" and asking if we have a website or something they can promote.

I honestly don't know what to think. Their behavious has done a 180° turn. I'm starting to think it's more than one people answering the messages. And if that's so, they should clear that up. There are probably other dedicated fans who also never got a thank you back.”

Maybe someone directed them here so they got their act together?
BionicBard
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by rosaportalc:
“Just got a DM from Shytown saying they "absolutely love the artwork" and asking if we have a website or something they can promote.

I honestly don't know what to think. Their behavious has done a 180° turn. I'm starting to think it's more than one people answering the messages. And if that's so, they should clear that up. There are probably other dedicated fans who also never got a thank you back.”

Maybe someone's followed the discussion here and pointed it out to them!
rosaportalc
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by BionicBard:
“Maybe someone's followed the discussion here and pointed it out to them!”

Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“Maybe someone directed them here so they got their act together?”

It honestly felt that way. Sometimes they reply with just one word or something really bland, but this message they sent was well written. They didn't apologise for not saying thank you before (I pointed that out to them again), but they did say it now. Didn't ask them to promote MD, but did make it clear that it was Vale who made the artwork and she's the one they should be crediting it for

Thank you for your support, you two
hannah 01.
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“ oops! Predictive text on my iPad evidently jumping to conclusions!”

Still it was a very very amusing picture of Kev.

I don't know.
Trouser length problems in his Paso with Suzanne.
Len worrying about him busting a gut in his Wicked tango with Frankie.
The problematic KK costumes (and table antics) last year.
Now Hillary has joined the Clifton clan
You've gotta feel for him
rosaportalc
18-10-2016
OT, but I wanted to share this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDLuGAtWlo4

Gleb and his partner's tango at DWTS this week. It's so good!

They got a 40 and I think they totally deserved it
BionicBard
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“[/b]

Could it be that for some reason J is not included in receiving royalties from this collaboration?”

Who knows? The whole scenario seems a bit bizarre. Two great tracks that don't appear to exist for J. It sounds lke some kind of rights issue to me.
hannah 01.
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by rosaportalc:
“OT,

Gleb and his partner's tango at DWTS this week. It's so good!

They got a 40 and I think they totally deserved it ”

Very Gleb. A good argentine tango based showdance but not an AT for latin week. But there again DWTS content leans more toward the showdance in all disciplines imo.

Where was Len that week?
jayfan
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by rosaportalc:
“OT, but I wanted to share this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDLuGAtWlo4

Gleb and his partner's tango at DWTS this week. It's so good!

They got a 40 and I think they totally deserved it ”

Not my kind of thing but cleverly done.
I wonder how long before we see a shower on SCD...
ahouch
19-10-2016
Morning All,

Shytown interview up after 5pm today and Jay makes a surprise appearance so I think that clears up any speculation up thread:
https://twitter.com/kateczylok/statu...09184774049792

Another picture of Jay out and about:
https://twitter.com/brasilthewanted/...28381436522496

KD pic from Drawing girl:
https://twitter.com/thedrawinggirl/s...83145721151488

Have a good day.x
KorkyTheCat
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by ahouch:
“Morning All,

Shytown interview up after 5pm today and Jay makes a surprise appearance so I think that clears up any speculation up thread:
https://twitter.com/kateczylok/statu...09184774049792

Another picture of Jay out and about:
https://twitter.com/brasilthewanted/...28381436522496

KD pic from Drawing girl:
https://twitter.com/thedrawinggirl/s...83145721151488

Have a good day.x”

Yay! Pleased he's wearing the scarf I knitted for him to keep his *respectful pause* neck warm. 😍
StrictlyRed
19-10-2016
Morning folks!

Originally Posted by ahouch:
“Morning All,

Shytown interview up after 5pm today and Jay makes a surprise appearance so I think that clears up any speculation up thread:
https://twitter.com/kateczylok/statu...09184774049792

Another picture of Jay out and about:
https://twitter.com/brasilthewanted/...28381436522496


KD pic from Drawing girl:
https://twitter.com/thedrawinggirl/s...83145721151488

Have a good day.x”

That middle link came up on my Twitter, retweeted by jayfan.

It looks as though J knows the other person in the photo, who posted it, because the original tweet says " old skool @maddcollege reunion". Seems he is in the Wind in the Willows musical, which is currently on at the Theatre Royal Plymouth.
CatO9Tales
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by ahouch:
“Morning All,

Shytown interview up after 5pm today and Jay makes a surprise appearance so I think that clears up any speculation up thread:
https://twitter.com/kateczylok/statu...09184774049792

Another picture of Jay out and about:
https://twitter.com/brasilthewanted/...28381436522496

KD pic from Drawing girl:
https://twitter.com/thedrawinggirl/s...83145721151488

Have a good day.x”

Many thanks, Ahouch - good news about the interview.
BionicBard
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by ahouch:
“Morning All,

Shytown interview up after 5pm today and Jay makes a surprise appearance so I think that clears up any speculation up thread:
https://twitter.com/kateczylok/statu...09184774049792

Another picture of Jay out and about:
https://twitter.com/brasilthewanted/...28381436522496

KD pic from Drawing girl:
https://twitter.com/thedrawinggirl/s...83145721151488

Have a good day.x”

Thanks Ahouch - looking forward to that.

I don't think it's so much speculation as being a bit puzzled why Jay said he hadn't done any singing since TW. Glad to hear they're on good terms though.
Lola the cat
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“Still it was a very very amusing picture of Kev.

I don't know.
Trouser length problems in his Paso with Suzanne.
Len worrying about him busting a gut in his Wicked tango with Frankie.
The problematic KK costumes (and table antics) last year.
Now Hillary has joined the Clifton clan
You've gotta feel for him”

I thought it was more like a case of Kev turning into The Donald - you know day-glo orange fake tan, "that" comb-over and if you look at his twitter feed he had a grumpy five minutes yesterday (I don't think they were done at 3am like The Donald) in exchange with someone about his comments in Radio Times justifying Ore's jive scores - "it had more content" apparently!

Sorry, Kev about the hair - honestly just have it cut really short, it will look much better.
Lola the cat
19-10-2016
So, lunchtime at work and it's a bit grim out so can't be bothered to go out. What can I ramble about as it's sooo quiet??

So, when do we think J will get his hair cut and more to the point when do I have to shave his beard off? Will he leave it until just before opening night so it's a Big surprise...see what I did there?

Um...looks blankly out of the window for inspiration, I know, did anyone see the little twitter exchange between J and Siva...ahhh Jiva. Will they just be face-timing their alien costumes to each other or is Siva coming over to see J?

http://cdn01.cdn.justjaredjr.com/wp-...rformances.jpg

See J's feeling the same as me at the moment - oh god what do I say now

I better go back to doing something useful with cashbooks
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