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Jay McGuiness and Aliona Vilani appreciation thread - Part 6
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BionicBard
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“I made him a scarf
With blue shaded wool
The better to blend
With the tint of his soul

I knitted it long
To wrap round his heart
An intricate pattern
State of the art

The scarf was so thick
To warm up his throat
It encircled his psyche
Kept his spirit afloat

I knitted a scarf
To keep out the chill
A blanket of love
And he wears it still”

Gorgeous, Korky
RaffertyCat
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“If you PM me, I'll take you through it off thread”

Thank you, TT. I'm a bit tired now, so hope you don't mind if I PM you tomorrow, when, hopefully, I feel a bit more sparkly. It would be really embarrassing if I couldn't get to grips, with even the basics. Not that I'm not embarrassed already. I must be the only person who hasn't investigated the Wonders of 'Word'. And it's been languishing on my laptop for six years! Now it's nagging me to update it, to the new version. Hope I haven't missed the boat with the 2010 model.
janetshep
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by jayfan:
“Hi Cato.
Sorry was not clear. The point I was making was that story seems to have shifted over the week.
Last week the party line was that they got on etc but some one or something has stirred it all up again, this time blaming Will.”

The Mirror seems to have got hold of a story that Will made Karen travel to Cornwall to rehearse but then didn't turn up. The timing seems a bit suspect, as they say it was the day before he withdrew, but I thought that happened on a Tuesday and they usually had pro group dance rehearsals on Mondays (I seem to remember a tweet from Jay last year that he had turned up to train on a Monday and Aliona wasn't there).

Link to article attached if you want to read it.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/s...artner-9074670

The Telegraph is running the same thing, but with some quotes from Brendan saying that Karen and Will seemed to get on fine.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/1...n-to-travel-t/
Toasted Toad
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by RaffertyCat:
“Thank you, TT. I'm a bit tired now, so hope you don't mind if I PM you tomorrow, when, hopefully, I feel a bit more sparkly. It would be really embarrassing if I couldn't get to grips, with even the basics. Not that I'm not embarrassed already. I must be the only person who hasn't investigated the Wonders of 'Word'. And it's been languishing on my laptop for six years! Now it's nagging me to update it, to the new version. Hope I haven't missed the boat with the 2010 model.”

Not at all. PM me when convenient.
BionicBard
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“I certainly think the producers (through the judges) are endeavouring to manufacture a 'bigger and better' contest this year by inflating scores, heaping praise where it's not entirely due, creating rivalry, hiring more slebs with dance experience, assisting some with appropriate music and costumes, hampering others with daft themes and clothes, etc.

It seems to me too that they were trying to create almost mass hysteria with their reaction to the O jive.”

I think this is very true. The impact of J&A on Strictly last year was massive, and as far as the Beeb goes, completely unforeseen. They really didn't have a clue what to do about it - and it looks like they still don't!

Nasty if they're stirring it up for Will, I wonder what idiocy we'll see from the judges this week.
KorkyTheCat
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by BionicBard:
“I think this is very true. The impact of J&A on Strictly last year was massive, and as far as the Beeb goes, completely unforeseen. They really didn't have a clue what to do about it - and it looks like they still don't!

Nasty if they're stirring it up for Will, I wonder what idiocy we'll see from the judges this week.”

Exactly, and they can't have an anticlimactic show this year so they're having to force things by wildly lauding the unworthy.
BMLisa
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by janetshep:
“The Mirror seems to have got hold of a story that Will made Karen travel to Cornwall to rehearse but then didn't turn up. The timing seems a bit suspect, as they say it was the day before he withdrew, but I thought that happened on a Tuesday and they usually had pro group dance rehearsals on Mondays (I seem to remember a tweet from Jay last year that he had turned up to train on a Monday and Aliona wasn't there).

Link to article attached if you want to read it.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/s...artner-9074670

The Telegraph is running the same thing, but with some quotes from Brendan saying that Karen and Will seemed to get on fine.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/1...n-to-travel-t/”

The pros rehearse Monday morning I believe, so those being interviewed on ITT on Monday wouldn't get to rehearse very much, but some rehearse Monday afternoon and evening after pro rehearsal.

However that would also include travelling time to wherever as pro rehearsal is at Elstree.

The tweet from Jay was when Aliona was running a bit late and iirc Jay was pisstaking and Aliona slayed him with a comeback about how if she was late he should get extra practice in 😂😂


ETA: https://twitter.com/alionavilani/status/644934819726651392
Polly-T
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by ahouch:
“Shytown interview

Let's Talk Music with Shytown - Mixcloud https://www.mixcloud.com/KateCzylok/...-with-shytown/”

Thanks for posting the link Ahouch - Personally, I enjoyed the interview and found it was interesting to hear how the connection was made between them, the process and of course to hear Jay speaking at the end of the interview.
I was impressed with Kates interviewing skills - asking appropriate questions, listening to the answers and not interrupting - something which a lot of more experienced
radio presenters are often inclined to do.
The more i hear 'Best You had' the more I like it and lovely to hear Jays singing voice again too.
Been away for a few days (back last night) so only catching up now - have yet to hear Jays interview on BBC Devon - hope his cold is better - lots of tweets emanating from the cast which is making the upcoming Big production all the more exciting
CatO9Tales
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by Polly-T:
“Thanks for posting the link Ahouch - Personally, I enjoyed the interview and found it was interesting to hear how the connection was made between them, the process and of course to hear Jay speaking at the end of the interview.
I was impressed with Kates interviewing skills - asking appropriate questions, listening to the answers and not interrupting - something which a lot of more experienced
radio presenters are often inclined to do.
The more i hear 'Best You had' the more I like it and lovely to hear Jays singing voice again too.
Been away for a few days (back last night) so only catching up now - have yet to hear Jays interview on BBC Devon - hope his cold is better - lots of tweets emanating from the cast which is making the upcoming Big production all the more exciting”

BIB - me too - thought she did a great job.
jayfan
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by Polly-T:
“Thanks for posting the link Ahouch - Personally, I enjoyed the interview and found it was interesting to hear how the connection was made between them, the process and of course to hear Jay speaking at the end of the interview.
I was impressed with Kates interviewing skills - asking appropriate questions, listening to the answers and not interrupting - something which a lot of more experienced
radio presenters are often inclined to do.
The more i hear 'Best You had' the more I like it and lovely to hear Jays singing voice again too.
Been away for a few days (back last night) so only catching up now - have yet to hear Jays interview on BBC Devon - hope his cold is better - lots of tweets emanating from the cast which is making the upcoming Big production all the more exciting”

Thanks for posting the link Ahouch.
I enjoyed the interview and agree with Polly's points about Kate's interviewing style. Nice to hear the little clip from Jay too.

I have not been following the other Big cast members on Twitter but might do now.
Polly-T
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by CatO9Tales:
“Jay, as one would expect, doesn't give a flying banana about last night's shenanigans:

https://twitter.com/amagoo13/status/787751604497879041”

Yes Cat09, Of course he doesn't - YT figures for Jaliona JIVE speak for themselves
and despite Len's best efforts Jay and Aliona are the reigning champions
I looked at Ores Jive this evening - yes its good - am sure I saw some moves 'borrowed' from Jays Jive in there. The kicks and flicks were fast but not as sharp - so for me not a 39 dance.
For me the dance of the night was Danny and Otis.
I hope SCD don't continue the comparison with Jays dances and instead concentrate on the celebrities competing in 2016
hannah 01.
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“The pros rehearse Monday morning I believe, so those being interviewed on ITT on Monday wouldn't get to rehearse very much, but some rehearse Monday afternoon and evening after pro rehearsal.

However that would also include travelling time to wherever as pro rehearsal is at Elstree.

The tweet from Jay was when Aliona was running a bit late and iirc Jay was pisstaking and Aliona slayed him with a comeback about how if she was late he should get extra practice in 😂😂


ETA: https://twitter.com/alionavilani/sta...34819726651392”

Which tweet BMLisa?. It hasn't attached so I can't open it

Is it the one that natches this from Birds instagram- the pic of him "waiting for his pro dancer"😜
https://www.instagram.com/p/7x_E-qte0_/?hl=en

ETA my bad. Sorry Lisa. It's attached to the quote so I can read it now
Polly-T
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by jayfan:
“Thanks for posting the link Ahouch.
I enjoyed the interview and agree with Polly's points about Kate's interviewing style. Nice to hear the little clip from Jay too.

I have not been following the other Big cast members on Twitter but might do now.”

Jessica Martin has been tweeting some lovely pics for Ink October and it appears some of the Cast, including Jay, attended 'The Wind in the Willows' last night
Gill P
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“Pretty sure Karen tweeted a couple of times after Will left, but it was all positive about him and also mentioned how it was a shame certain press soured it.”

This is true. And she has been interviewed at the premier of Burn the Floor today saying the same thing.

On Will's website there is a picture of the studio in Cornwall where they rehearsed the salsa. They went there because the woman helping them with the dance lives in Cornwall! Why on earth would they go again when the next dance was the VW!
Toasted Toad
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by Polly-T:
“Yes Cat09, Of course he doesn't - YT figures for Jaliona JIVE speak for themselves
and despite Len's best efforts Jay and Aliona are the reigning champions
I looked at Ores Jive this evening - yes its good - am sure I saw some moves 'borrowed' from Jays Jive in there. The kicks and flicks were fast but not as sharp - so for me not a 39 dance.
For me the dance of the night was Danny and Otis.
I hope SCD don't continue the comparison with Jays dances and instead concentrate on the celebrities competing in 2016”

I don't think they borrowed moves - there are a number of moves that were not specific to Jay's jive - they were just jive moves. If anything, Kevin/Louise's jive was more derivative. I could almost hear Kevin's thoughts when watching that routine, "see, anything J can do, my celeb can do too" including those rotating travelling kick ball changes (which Louise fell off of at the end).
RaffertyCat
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“I certainly think the producers (through the judges) are endeavouring to manufacture a 'bigger and better' contest this year by inflating scores, heaping praise where it's not entirely due, creating rivalry, hiring more slebs with dance experience, assisting some with appropriate music and costumes, hampering others with daft themes and clothes, etc.

It seems to me too that they were trying to create almost mass hysteria with their reaction to the O jive.”

Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“Exactly, and they can't have an anticlimactic show this year so they're having to force things by wildly lauding the unworthy.”

Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“Oh, so do I!

It all just goes to show how the fudges are manipulative falsifiers.

How I wish we could have a totally honest programme.”

Sorry to bring my post forward (see below). But this is what I meant when I posted the text, and the link to the video. However, having listened to Jay, in his interviews, I think that he would totally disagree with me. I can accept that. After all, he should know: he did a whole series of SCD: and walked off with the Glitterball.

Originally Posted by RaffertyCat:
“
What I do have a problem with, is TPTB. The callous manipulation, with no regard for 'collateral damage'. It's all a bit disappointing, and, well..........grubby, really.
Puts me in mind of:- https://youtu.be/kx6aRCa8lrE
”

On reflection, I think I, for one, am going to have to lighten up about this: go with the flow: see it for what it is: and enjoy the show. After all, if they listened to us, we might end up with getting "Come Dancing" back. Then we'd really have something to grumble about.

Here's a reminder of some of what Jay had to say in his interview. Thanks jtnorth.

Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“That the judges were all lovely backstage and there was an element of panto in their comments which he thought was great. That he loves it when people come up to him, when they remember particularly details of the dances, like 'I loved your fleckle in week seven,' and that the show was great family viewing and had got him known to a much bigger audience and much wider age range than the Wanted. Those are the bits I remember, other people may have better memories. He liked Naga and was sorry she'd gone (but I wasn't sure if he'd watched it or not.) Mainly talking about the musical.”

StrictlyRed
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“This is true. And she has been interviewed at the premier of Burn the Floor today saying the same thing.

On Will's website there is a picture of the studio in Cornwall where they rehearsed the salsa. They went there because the woman helping them with the dance lives in Cornwall! Why on earth would they go again when the next dance was the VW!”

It would be nice if the tabloids reported the positives like this, instead of making a "story" out of nothing but rubbish.

Originally Posted by Polly-T:
“Jessica Martin has been tweeting some lovely pics for Ink October and it appears some of the Cast, including Jay, attended 'The Wind in the Willows' last night”

Yes, I think they did. There was a picture on Twitter with a cast member from Willows, who it seems was at MADD with Jay, and it looks as though the photo was taken in the Theatre foyer.
KorkyTheCat
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by RaffertyCat:
“...On reflection, I think I, for one, am going to have to lighten up about this: go with the flow: see it for what it is: and enjoy the show. After all, if they listened to us, we might end up with getting "Come Dancing" back. Then we'd really have something to grumble about. ”

I take your point Raffy. There's no anger, resentment or cynicism coming from J. However, I dislike injustice and manipulative words and deeds and being taken for a suggestible fool. Certain 'stuff' will always rankle.

Glad you're back.
hannah 01.
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“It would be nice if the tabloids reported the positives like this, instead of making a "story" out of nothing but rubbish.



Yes, I think they did. There was a picture on Twitter with a cast member from Willows, who it seems was at MADD with Jay, and it looks as though the photo was taken in the Theatre foyer.”

https://mobile.twitter.com/BrasilThe...1436522496?p=v
KorkyTheCat
19-10-2016
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvKOsacWIAI32yx.jpg

(Cropped by someone)
hannah 01.
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvKOsacWIAI32yx.jpg

(Cropped by someone)”

Poor Rakesh. Being cropped just like that
KorkyTheCat
20-10-2016
Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“Poor Rakesh. Being cropped just like that”

Such is life...
hannah 01.
20-10-2016
Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvKOsacWIAI32yx.jpg

(Cropped by someone)”

Very nice up close and personal picture of the scarf wot you knitted him there.
As for the hair Jay. Can we have the curls back please. Short or long curls will do for me.
https://45.media.tumblr.com/d0e90284...etzvo1_400.gif
Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“Such is life... ”

But if a photo needs cropping then it just has to be done
ahouch
20-10-2016
Ali's a bit miffed:

https://twitter.com/alionavilani/sta...76856091529217
jayfan
20-10-2016
Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“I take your point Raffy. There's no anger, resentment or cynicism coming from J. However, I dislike injustice and manipulative words and deeds and being taken for a suggestible fool. Certain 'stuff' will always rankle.

Glad you're back. ”

That is how I feel Korky.

Hope you are ok Rafferty
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