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Jay McGuiness and Aliona Vilani appreciation thread - Part 6
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nelliek
23-10-2016
I know this is a double post, but I need to ask while I remember.

Someone mentioned a couple of pages back that they had got/were getting tickets for the Strictly 2017 Tour.
I know Jaliona won't be dancing, but I'm happy to start a list for the Tour if you'd like.
jayfan
23-10-2016
Nelliek
Can you bump up the KD and Big tour list please?
Thank you.
Toasted Toad
23-10-2016
Something else occurred to me, actually. Everyone keeps going on about how fast the Samba music was and how it was too fast for Claudia, but I checked last night and I don't think that it was any faster than the music Georgia copied with so well. Joe just choreographed better.
fatskia
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“No, not posted yet.

Pleased to see J gripping onto his phone. ”



One of those kids looks really BIG!
StrictlyRed
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by nelliek:
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I know about the firework display, which is why I'm staying at the Travelodge next to the theatre. But as I don't know Plymouth and you're obviously fairly familiar with it, how likely is it that the road between the station and the theatre will be closed after 4pm as I will have to get a taxi?”

As it happens, I was on the road between the theatre and the station today, and there were no notices indicating closure.

I think it would be highly unlikely - the station is north of the theatre, and there is a main traffic route. The seafront and approach roads which look as though they will be closed are less busy, and are south of the theatre as you look at it on a map.
fatskia
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by BionicBard:
“I'm talking about artistry. Aliona's choreography looks fresh and exciting because it is fresh and exciting. It's not about steps, but interpretation, and if you take the artistry out of it you have what we've seen tonight. She and Artem are both brilliant choreographers, and a huge loss to the show.”

I agree!

When you look at the Paso for Jay - so many proper Paso steps, but all interwoven to the music and lyrics, use the floor fully, and appeal to the TV audience, the studio audience and the judges.

Jaliona Week 5 Paso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra0uvOSg6Ak
nelliek
23-10-2016
As per jayfan's request.

Done in chronological order, so Big Dublin is after Keep Dancing Edinburgh.

As always, please check I have your details correct. PM me with any additions or corrections.

BIG - Plymouth
Saturday 5 November – evening (7.30pm)

Fridgesoup
jnb_7
nelliek
Rosedroplet
speedtrap

Monday 7 November – evening (7.30pm)
Cat09Tales + plus one

Friday 11 November - evening (7.30pm)
nelliek

Saturday 12 November – matinee (2.30pm)
nelliek

Saturday 12 November – evening (7.30pm)
Dufnut + Teen Dufnut
nelliek


Keep Dancing - Edinburgh
Edinburgh 16 November Wednesday matinee (2.30pm)

Ronny 7

Edinburgh 17 November Thursday evening (7.30pm)
danceagogo

speedtrap

Edinburgh 18 November Friday evening (7.30pm)
celloplayer + plus one
nelliek
Polly-T
speedtrap

Edinburgh 19 November Saturday matinee (2.30pm)
Agrion + plus two
jayfan
jnb_7
nelliek
Snookey
speedtrap

Edinburgh 19 November Saturday evening (7.30pm)
jackybob + plus one
jayfan
Jelly_L
jnb_7
nelliek
SeasideLady
Snookey
speedtrap


BIG - Dublin
Thursday 8 December – evening (7.30pm)

Polly-T + plus one

Saturday 10 December – evening (7.30pm)
DeiseDays + plus two

Saturday 7 January – matinee (2.30pm)
DeiseDays
jayfan
jnb_7
Polly-T
speedtrap

Saturday 7 January – evening (7.30pm)
DeiseDays
jayfan
jnb_7
speedtrap

I have to add ahouch and KLTKD to Dublin on the 7 Jan, but I don't know which performance(s).
nelliek
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“As it happens, I was on the road between the theatre and the station today, and there were no notices indicating closure.

I think it would be highly unlikely - the station is north of the theatre, and there is a main traffic route. The seafront and approach roads which look as though they will be closed are less busy, and are south of the theatre as you look at it on a map.”

Thanks, Strictly.
I'd looked at the map and thought closure would be unlikely, but thought I'd asked.

(With apologies to everyone for a second double post.)
Sine_M
23-10-2016
Just caught up with last night's Strictly. Kind of galling to see fudges, especially Craig, treating Ore as if he's the Second Coming, compared to the way Jay was treated last year. I take Fatskia's point that TPTB need to ramp up tension by creating a close contest, and I wonder if having seen the backlash last year, rather than dissing the early male front-runner, they're trying the opposite tactic of bigging up the closest contender. And call me cynical, but I think Ore's 'tears' are as faky as Kevin's fake tan. I'm so un-enamoured of Strictly this year - and not entirely because Jay and Aliona aren't there.
Sabbatical
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Sine_M:
“ And call me cynical, but I think Ore's 'tears' are as faky as Kevin's fake tan. .”

I don't think he's fake - probably genuinely nice, but drifting slightly to the Peter Andres if he's not careful. I never thought he was fake either, but to be honest, I'm not that keen on 'sugary nice complimentary of others shocked and humbled' people in real life. I like a little edge, just a touch of darkness, or at least the potential for it ...
Toasted Toad
23-10-2016
OT, but remember when the VTs were like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg8neixzZtU

You got invested in the people as you saw them on their journey (sorry!) and how difficult it all was.

ETA1: And I don't think Ore's fake either (or at least, not on the night), he just gets over-emotional. I think he does need to rein it in, though. We wouldn't be very sympathetic if it was a woman (or at least, not if she did it more than once). Other than that, he is just not very interesting at the moment. I wonder if Ore/Jo might be one of those pairings where they bring out the worst in each other?

ETA2: And I'm still waiting for one of those partnerships to go 'click'. It's one of the reasons we all loved Jaliona so much last year. It wasn't just Jay and it wasn't just Aliona. It was the pair of them. It's no coincidence that people were already speculating about their relationship after the waltz - it was because they had so much dancefloor chemistry, and some people can't distinguish between that and real-life romantic chemistry.

We've had it before - Zoe and Ian, Aliona and Matt, Kara and Artem, Matt and Flavia, and many more. Not always the best couples, but always the most entertaining to watch. This is partner dancing.

Both the top 2 couples this year are very glamorous, but so far, dancing very separately (do I need to add the caveat IMO every now and again?) If couples don't click at first, how likely is it that they will do so later? Are there people who have better memories than me?

ETA3: Perhaps that's why I liked Louise for the first time last night. I felt that she and Kevin were genuinely dancing together. I know others didn't feel the same, but i saw glimmers for the first time. And I like the relationship between Daisy and Aljaz, although didn't really see it on the floor as much last night.
ahouch
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by nelliek:
“As per jayfan's request.

Done in chronological order, so Big Dublin is after Keep Dancing Edinburgh.

As always, please check I have your details correct. PM me with any additions or corrections.

BIG - Plymouth
Saturday 5 November – evening (7.30pm)

Fridgesoup
jnb_7
nelliek
Rosedroplet
speedtrap

Monday 7 November – evening (7.30pm)
Cat09Tales + plus one

Friday 11 November - evening (7.30pm)
nelliek

Saturday 12 November – matinee (2.30pm)
nelliek

Saturday 12 November – evening (7.30pm)
Dufnut + Teen Dufnut
nelliek


Keep Dancing - Edinburgh
Edinburgh 16 November Wednesday matinee (2.30pm)

Ronny 7

Edinburgh 17 November Thursday evening (7.30pm)
danceagogo

speedtrap

Edinburgh 18 November Friday evening (7.30pm)
celloplayer + plus one
nelliek
Polly-T
speedtrap

Edinburgh 19 November Saturday matinee (2.30pm)
Agrion + plus two
jayfan
jnb_7
nelliek
Snookey
speedtrap

Edinburgh 19 November Saturday evening (7.30pm)
jackybob + plus one
jayfan
Jelly_L
jnb_7
nelliek
SeasideLady
Snookey
speedtrap


BIG - Dublin
Thursday 8 December – evening (7.30pm)

Polly-T + plus one

Saturday 10 December – evening (7.30pm)
DeiseDays + plus two

Saturday 7 January – matinee (2.30pm)
DeiseDays
jayfan
jnb_7
Polly-T
speedtrap

Saturday 7 January – evening (7.30pm)
DeiseDays
jayfan
jnb_7
speedtrap

I have to add ahouch and KLTKD to Dublin on the 7 Jan, but I don't know which performance(s).”

Thanks for the list NellieK. KLTKD & I are going to both performances, as is Polly so you need to add her to the evening performance too.

Sorry you can't make Dublin, it would have been lovely to catch up again. At least you have Plymouth and Edinburgh to look forward to!

Btw Lola, I got the impression from one of your posts a day or so ago that you may be going to Dublin as well? If so that's great news too.

Not seen all of last night's show yet. Not feeling particularly engaged so far. I'm just struggling to find someone to root for. Little Miss ahouch is of a similar mind set. Yesterday she told me that she didn't think it was as good as last year as there seemed to be too many problems and it wasn't as much fun. 😔 On the funnier side she likes to say contestant's names when they give out the number to vote, but when it got to Lesley's turn she said 'It's Lesley Joseph & Anton Baguette'. Made me laugh😂
hannah 01.
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Lola the cat:
“Yep, they are always like that She "takes agin" (her spelling) both celebs and pros and is very vocal about it. Although she has a thing about Pasha, she also "takes agin" his partners, last year she was very much Team Glita until they got knocked out and then wanted K&K to win, I don't think she ever got J. She seems to like jazz hands and more "in yer face" dancing usually but it can be random.

As with you I agree with James Jordan, a sentence I never thought I would write Although as Jayfan has said, from the comments I've seen on social media and the media, it seems pretty universal that the judges manipulations, over-marking and over-praising of a couple of the celebs seem to be more pronounced this year and not going down too well. I have a feeling it is going to back fire spectacularly if they are not careful and their chosen 2 will end up together in the bottom 2 if they are not careful, be interesting who they would choose to keep.

ETA - but isn't there only the one and only original Hannah, all others are just pale imitations of you ”

Thank you so much young Lola.
Whiffle_09
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“OT, but remember when the VTs were like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg8neixzZtU

You got invested in the people as you saw them on their journey (sorry!) and how difficult it all was.

Spoiler
ETA1: And I don't think Ore's fake either (or at least, not on the night), he just gets over-emotional. I think he does need to rein it in, though. We wouldn't be very sympathetic if it was a woman (or at least, not if she did it more than once). Other than that, he is just not very interesting at the moment. I wonder if Ore/Jo might be one of those pairings where they bring out the worst in each other?

ETA2: And I'm still waiting for one of those partnerships to go 'click'. It's one of the reasons we all loved Jaliona so much last year. It wasn't just Jay and it wasn't just Aliona. It was the pair of them. It's no coincidence that people were already speculating about their relationship after the waltz - it was because they had so much dancefloor chemistry, and some people can't distinguish between that and real-life romantic chemistry.

We've had it before - Zoe and Ian, Aliona and Matt, Kara and Artem, Matt and Flavia, and many more. Not always the best couples, but always the most entertaining to watch. This is partner dancing.

Both the top 2 couples this year are very glamorous, but so far, dancing very separately (do I need to add the caveat IMO every now and again?) If couples don't click at first, how likely is it that they will do so later? Are there people who have better memories than me?

ETA3: Perhaps that's why I liked Louise for the first time last night. I felt that she and Kevin were genuinely dancing together. I know others didn't feel the same, but i saw glimmers for the first time. And I like the relationship between Daisy and Aljaz, although didn't really see it on the floor as much last night
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A lovely trip down memory lane. Doesn't Zoe look young here??

Thank you for your brilliant review Toad. And also BB, Rafferty, Agrion ( Hope I haven't missed anyone).
Still waiting for a couple to grab me - maybe a vain hope - but I did enjoy Rob/Oksana ( bit messy but seemed like plenty of content) & surprisingly Anastacia/Gorka.. He did a great job as sub ( looked ok in the suit too!)

Originally Posted by ahouch:
“Not seen all of last night's show yet. Not feeling particularly engaged so far. I'm just struggling to find someone to root for. Little Miss ahouch is of a similar mind set. Yesterday she told me that she didn't think it was as good as last year as there seemed to be too many problems and it wasn't as much fun. 😔 On the funnier side she likes to say contestant's names when they give out the number to vote, but when it got to Lesley's turn she said 'It's Lesley Joseph & Anton Baguette'. Made me laugh😂”

How adorable!
Dfer
23-10-2016
Haven't watched last nights show yet as OH and I went to the theatre locally and then have been baby-sitting the two little granddaughters today. So will be catching up when OH returns from walking the dog. Might have to do some fast forwarding to fit it in before the results show, but going by what I have read on this thread and others, that won't be too hard. If this was last year I would have itching to see the prog but this year, not so much. Will report back tomorrow.
Love Monkseal, so funny.
BTW not only are there 2 Hannahs, but 2 Janfans😕
KLTKD
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by ahouch:
“Thanks for the list NellieK. KLTKD & I are going to both performances, as is Polly so you need to add her to the evening performance too.

Sorry you can't make Dublin, it would have been lovely to catch up again. At least you have Plymouth and Edinburgh to look forward to!

Btw Lola, I got the impression from one of your posts a day or so ago that you may be going to Dublin as well? If so that's great news too.

Not seen all of last night's show yet. Not feeling particularly engaged so far. I'm just struggling to find someone to root for. Little Miss ahouch is of a similar mind set. Yesterday she told me that she didn't think it was as good as last year as there seemed to be too many problems and it wasn't as much fun. 😔 On the funnier side she likes to say contestant's names when they give out the number to vote, but when it got to Lesley's turn she said 'It's Lesley Joseph & Anton Baguette'. Made me laugh😂”

Thanks Ahouch beat me to it! Looking at nelliek's list there are lots of people going to have a fabulous November with Keep Dancing and Big shows! 😊 Big in Jan will be a great way to to chase away any post Xmas blues too😊
I also agree with lots of people's comments/observations about Strictly this year. I'm finding I'm not warming to any of the couples in particular. There seem to have been so many dramas and injuries too. Last night the Clauditorium seemed really quiet at times.
Toasted Toad
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by KLTKD:
“Thanks Ahouch beat me to it! Looking at nelliek's list there are lots of people going to have a fabulous November with Keep Dancing and Big shows! 😊 Big in Jan will be a great way to to chase away any post Xmas blues too😊
I also agree with lots of people's comments/observations about Strictly this year. I'm finding I'm not warming to any of the couples in particular. There seem to have been so many dramas and injuries too. Last night the Clauditorium seemed really quiet at times.”

I think it's also not helped by the feeling that they are not supportive of each other but are very competitive. Particularly at this end of the competition, that's not the atmosphere I want to see..
BMLisa
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by fatskia:
“I agree!

When you look at the Paso for Jay - so many proper Paso steps, but all interwoven to the music and lyrics, use the floor fully, and appeal to the TV audience, the studio audience and the judges.

Jaliona Week 5 Paso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra0uvOSg6Ak”

Totally agree! It's dull dull dull this year.

I've not watched last nights yet and don't know if I can be bothered.
hannah 01.
23-10-2016
Of the folk who have seen the dances can I just ask if any mention was made about Greg's face.

He looked like thunder.

Was he just concentrating cos he did look as if he forgot a bit of the routine or at least had a few missed steps
KorkyTheCat
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Whiffle_09:
“...but I did enjoy Rob/Oksana (bit messy but seemed like plenty of content)”

Rob and Ed (along with their partners) are who I'm preferring this year. They are taking it seriously but with humour (as J did) which is the manner that most appeals to me. Can't abide false humility.

I have a feeling, corroborated by reading around, that Ore isn't too popular with the public and is being kept in by the judges' overmarking tactic, perhaps as competition for Danny. Ditto to a large extent Louise. Spot the link?
Sine_M
23-10-2016
Watching results show. I take your points 're Ore , TT and Sab, but still think he's a big ol' cheese. And I miss Aliona in the pro dances, she didn't feel the need to treat you to a constant view of her uvula - yes I'm looking at you Janette!
Toasted Toad
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by hannah 01.:
“Of the folk who have seen the dances can I just ask if any mention was made about Greg's face.

He looked like thunder.

Was he just concentrating cos he did look as if he forgot a bit of the routine or at least had a few missed steps”

I thought he looked wonderful.
Beth_19
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Sine_M:
“Watching results show. I take your points 're Ore , TT and Sab, but still think he's a big ol' cheese. And I miss Aliona in the pro dances, she didn't feel the need to treat you to a constant view of her uvula - yes I'm looking at you Janette!”

Must say I agree, now Aliona has gone there's no one who I'm drawn to watching in the group (hope that maks sense), which makes it uninteresting for me no matter how good the dancing is makes me miss many the pros from years gone by.
Also agree re Ore- used to quite like him but the cheese is getting on my nerves am warming to Judge Rinder, thought his comments about Oksana were very nice
KorkyTheCat
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Beth_19:
“Must say I agree, now Aliona has gone there's no one who I'm drawn to watching in the group (hope that maks sense), which makes it uninteresting for me no matter how good the dancing is makes me miss many the pros from years gone by.
Also agree re Ore- used to quite like him but the cheese is getting on my nerves am warming to Judge Rinder, thought his comments about Oksana were very nice ”

Glad you're warming to Robert, Beth. To me it helps too that he has a beautiful speaking voice and is very intelligent. I think he's sincere too. His is the only dance I've re-watched and I see more content in his jive than in many others' jives.
hannah 01.
23-10-2016
Opening pro dance was a helluva boost for Jo Clifton new show in the new year. Thoroughly Modern Millie.

And if we wanted a little bit of Aliona at least her dress appeared. I am sure Jeanette wore Ali's cha cha dress😂😂
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