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Jay McGuiness and Aliona Vilani appreciation thread - Part 6
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BionicBard
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by jayfan:
“Agree with this too.
As I have said before, I just don't think KD was very well thought through by whoever set it up.”

Absolutely with you on that, Jayfan - the whole exercise has been very messily put together. The PR is hardly what you'd call proactive. Of course, this has nothing to do with Jay or Aliona, or any of the other guest stars. The producers haven't distinguished themselves in promoting the show - it's a company that produces cruise ship shows, so maybe that's where they'll make their money. Of the publicity we have seen, most of it has been about Robin. It is his show, after all.

On the question of this latest review, the reviewer was clearly peeved and it's all to easy to jump on the 'they didn't dance the jive in the final' bandwagon. There was another rather peevish review from Wimbledon, and that one seemed to be driven by the fact that the reviewer hadn't been given a proper printed programme. So there we have two situations that wouldn't have come up if the PR machine was doing it's job properly.

The other thing that put a bit of a dampener on things was the late changes of music and costume - probably the Beeb throwing a spanner in at the last minute. People were expecting one thing, and got another. This is not saying the performances weren't superb, because they clearly were, but people expecting one thing can understandably be a bit put out because they're not seeing what they thought they'd paid for.

It may have helped to explain the situation before the show, or put a note in the programme, but maybe J&A didn't want to make a big deal of it. But in PR terms it would have helped - people are generally much happier when the situation is explained to them.

Korky - beautiful words again last night.
Drizzle1
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by dancingfosse:
“Hi everyone, I hope that you are all well? Haven't posted on here for a while although I have been lurking.


Could you all possibly vote for Jay and Aliona's Salsa on this poll please? TTF and Susanna Reid's Paso currently in the lead so can't have that!😂

https://twitter.com/scd_support/stat...98932529565700”

Just voted J&A in the lead now.
nelliek
17-11-2016
Anyone going to Edinburgh Friday evening or either of the Saturday performances want a 'meet-up' even if only for a few minutes in the lobby? Please PM me today as I will be without internet access from about 6am tomorrow until I reach the hotel sometime in the afternoon.

Also, way back in the early days of Edinburgh being announced someone (possibly Sine, but don't quote me on
that ) kindly posted details of the whereabouts of the stage door at the Playhouse. All I can remember is that it's down an alley and down some steps. Can anyone give more precise details please?

OT for this post, but yes, I have voted for J&A's salsa.
Dfer
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by dancingfosse:
“Hi everyone, I hope that you are all well? Haven't posted on here for a while although I have been lurking.

Could you all possibly vote for Jay and Aliona's Salsa on this poll please? TTF and Susanna Reid's Paso currently in the lead so can't have that!😂

https://twitter.com/scd_support/stat...98932529565700”

Just voted. Only let's you vote once. Jay is in the lead at the mo
jayfan
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by nelliek:
“Anyone going to Edinburgh Friday evening or either of the Saturday performances want a 'meet-up' even if only for a few minutes in the lobby? Please PM me today as I will be without internet access from about 6am tomorrow until I reach the hotel sometime in the afternoon.

Also, way back in the early days of Edinburgh being announced someone (possibly Sine, but don't quote me on
that ) kindly posted details of the whereabouts of the stage door at the Playhouse. All I can remember is that it's down an alley and down some steps. Can anyone give more precise details please?

OT for this post, but yes, I have voted for J&A's salsa. ”

Hi Nelliek

I will text you.
See you Saturday.

Waves to Dancingfosse
fatskia
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by Lola the cat:
“Re the review for KD, I actually think if you put yourself in the average viewer’s shoes it’s pretty fair. If you liked J & A on Strictly, saw that they were apparently headlining in a dance show and booked tickets, wouldn’t you be a little disappointed if you then only saw 2 short dances which weren’t the ones you were expecting and a short, very short by the timings, Q&A session. Not everyone reads this thread or follows them avidly on twitter so wouldn’t know that it had been changed to 2 dances and a Q&A or even necessarily that Ali is pregnant. I’m not criticising anyone, it is what it is but just try to look at it through their eyes rather than a sooper fans eyes who are just pleased to see J & A dance together, however briefly. The review isn’t massively criticising them just surprise that more were not seen of them in the show which is a fair point if you have spent a lot of money to see them headline a show. If there is any fault it is in the advertising that has happened or not happened very well for the show.”

I agree.
I think the review is fair enough in the circumstances.

I was expecting Aliona would have been able to do the Jive and Paso, but maybe it wasn't predictable regarding timings, and it's better to play safe with Aliona's and the baby's health.
It would have been nice to have a long Q&A to make up for it, but it's not likely to suit KD to make such an adjustment.
nelliek
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by Lola the cat:
“Perhaps in future you could put your "extra observations" in a spoiler tag so that those of us who have not seen the play yet are not looking for whether he is wearing black or white socks or whatever. I would actually like to see and experience "those" moments for myself. Thank you.

And with that I will probably get drummed out of the thread ”

Lola, I apologise
(a) for being so slow to reply to your post - unfortunately RL has got in the way a lot the last few days and
(b) for not putting all of my comments/reviews/whatever about 'Big' in spoiler tags. In future I will wait until I'm back home on the laptop before saying anything. (Not 'techie' enough to do spoiler stuff on my tablet.)

However, I can assure you that there is still so much that I haven't commented on for you to 'immerse' yourself in when you see the show.
There is one bit which I think is pure genius and which no-one else has commented on yet. I'm waiting to see how long it will be before anyone else notices. If anyone who's seen the show thinks they know what I mean, then PM me, rather than put it a in spoiler because it's the sort of thing that is better as a complete surprise when seeing the show. .
nelliek
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by jayfan:
“Hi Nelliek

I will text you.
See you Saturday.

Waves to Dancingfosse”

Would rather you initially PM me today. I'm not very good at texting. Takes me about half an hour to write one sentence. And then I usually mess up the number I'm supposed to be sending the message to.

ETA: Unless you mean, you'll text me on Saturday when you've arrived.
jayfan
17-11-2016
You have intrigued me now Nelliek!
Yes I will text you or ring you when I arrive on Saturday.
Will probably go straight to the theatre as arriving midday ish.
Dfer
17-11-2016
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Toasted Toad
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by jayfan:
“I thought we had already worked out that they were only doing two dances at KD because of Aliona's pregnancy?”

Even I, someone constantly lurking or posting here, hadn't worked that one out, so I can imagine how much of a surprise it must have been for people who don't hang out here. I had thought the waltz and rumba would be substituted for two of the dances, and the other 2 would be danced as before. I didn't think that they would do only 2 dances in total. I am surprised that Aliona would think a jive beyond her at this point, but every pregnancy is different and she alone knows what she can and can't do.

Voted in the poll (although I have to say that, if offered the choice, I would probably have gone for Harry and Aliona's QS as well)
Toasted Toad
17-11-2016
Just realised that I left something out of my review of last week which I had particularly wanted to point out. More because it adds to my J review than anything else.

The Judge's FT gave me a perfect opportunity to demonstrate what I was talking about when I was trying to explain why I melted into goo at J's FT. In Roberts routine at 1:24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uOBSc-fO5U he does the same type of move as J does at 1:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RHv6RxiNco. However, Rob does the more usual waft - i.e. left hand lead, then bringing both arms down before changing to right arm lead. That's where J was so unusual - instead of bringing his hands down when changing from left to right, he brought them up so that when he led with left hand, the hand was being raised, and when he led with the right it was being lowered - much more difficult to do smoothly and beautifully (not to mention difficult to still look masculine). Gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous.
Toasted Toad
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by Drizzle1:
“Are the DVDs Rachael's Jalionas compileation DVDs, I wasn't on the thread at that time, and I would very much like a copy if possible please.”

PM me - I need an email to send you the link
nelliek
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by jayfan:
“You have intrigued me now Nelliek!
Yes I will text you or ring you when I arrive on Saturday.
Will probably go straight to the theatre as arriving midday ish.”

As you're my friend I might be persuaded to tell you on Saturday.

For food (though you've probably already checked this out) there's a Slug and Lettuce and a Frankie and Benny's next door-but-one in the Omni Centre.
From what I can see the Cafe Habana is only a bar, and probably best avoided.
KorkyTheCat
17-11-2016
J last night. 💕

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxdUbh1XcAARAOM.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxdXf2yW8AA3abW.jpg
nelliek
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“J last night. 💕

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxdUbh1XcAARAOM.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxdXf2yW8AA3abW.jpg”

Re the second pic - Jay, sweetheart, it's no use wearing two scarves if you then leave your jacket/coat undone so the cold can get to your chest.

Korky, you are getting very lackadaisical in your jobs, so I hereby apply for the job of Jay coat/jacket fasten-upper.
jayfan
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by KorkyTheCat:
“J last night. 💕

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxdUbh1XcAARAOM.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxdXf2yW8AA3abW.jpg”

Just look at those curls!
He looks very happy.
Thanks Korky
janetshep
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by nelliek:
“Lola, I apologise
(a) for being so slow to reply to your post - unfortunately RL has got in the way a lot the last few days and
(b) for not putting all of my comments/reviews/whatever about 'Big' in spoiler tags. In future I will wait until I'm back home on the laptop before saying anything. (Not 'techie' enough to do spoiler stuff on my tablet.)

However, I can assure you that there is still so much that I haven't commented on for you to 'immerse' yourself in when you see the show.
There is one bit which I think is pure genius and which no-one else has commented on yet. I'm waiting to see how long it will be before anyone else notices. If anyone who's seen the show thinks they know what I mean, then PM me, rather than put it a in spoiler because it's the sort of thing that is better as a complete surprise when seeing the show. . ”


I've PMd you, Nelliek
janetshep
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by Drizzle1:
“Are the DVDs Rachael's Jalionas compileation DVDs, I wasn't on the thread at that time, and I would very much like a copy if possible please.”

Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“PM me - I need an email to send you the link”

Hi Drizzle.
Yes, they are Rachel's compilations. It will be easiest for everyone to use TT's upload, but if for any reason it doesn't work, I'm happy to send people copies on DVD.
Janet

ETA - voted in the poll. Jay and Aliona's salsa now well in the lead, with Harry and Aliona's AT second.
Drizzle1
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by janetshep:
“Hi Drizzle.
Yes, they are Rachel's compilations. It will be easiest for everyone to use TT's upload, but if for any reason it doesn't work, I'm happy to send people copies on DVD.
Janet

ETA - voted in the poll. Jay and Aliona's salsa now well in the lead, with Harry and Aliona's AT second. ”

Thankyou Janet
If it dosent work I will pm you, with my e- mail if that's okay. X
janetshep
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by Drizzle1:
“Thankyou Janet
If it dosent work I will pm you, with my e- mail if that's okay. X”

That's fine
Dfer
17-11-2016
Totally random, but on Viva channel just a minute ago they had " the biggest boy bands of the decade " no 20 to no 1. The Wanted with " Glad you came " came in at no 2! Only beaten by, yep you guess it, 1D can't remember the song. Nice surprise in the afternoon. And no its not a regular tv channel of mine
Whiffle_09
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by Drizzle1:
“Are the DVDs Rachael's Jalionas compileation DVDs, I wasn't on the thread at that time, and I would very much like a copy if possible please.”

Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“PM me - I need an email to send you the link”

I just missed them too & would love a copy. Would you be able to send me a link as well TT if I PM you ? No worries if not.

ETA voted in the Blackpool poll. J & A had 49% of votes
Toasted Toad
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by Whiffle_09:
“I just missed them too & would love a copy. Would you be able to send me a link as well TT if I PM you ? No worries if not.

ETA voted in the Blackpool poll. J & A had 49% of votes”

No probs
StrictlyRed
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by dancingfosse:
“Hi everyone, I hope that you are all well? Haven't posted on here for a while although I have been lurking.

Could you all possibly vote for Jay and Aliona's Salsa on this poll please? TTF and Susanna Reid's Paso currently in the lead so can't have that!😂

https://twitter.com/scd_support/stat...98932529565700”

Just voted!
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