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Old 01-06-2016, 12:03
tony le mesmer
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Got a letter this morning directing me to bt.com/legalstuff

Seems tied up with them launching plans that include a phone, but I get the impression that I can leave without penalty.

They're also dropping restrictions on tethering, Android first with iOS to follow.
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Old 01-06-2016, 13:07
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BT Business offer phone plans, it may refer to that. Although hopefully they offer them on residential, too, because I need a new phone really lol
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Old 01-06-2016, 13:22
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http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/mobile/phones/
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Old 01-06-2016, 17:29
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Is that new today? I hadn't seen that page before..
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Old 01-06-2016, 19:15
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Have they dropped the 20GB plan and changed it to 15GB?
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Old 01-06-2016, 19:28
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Have they dropped the 20GB plan and changed it to 15GB?
Looks like it yeah. I signed up yesterday and it came today so just made it. And qualified for the £80 Amazon voucher lol
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Old 01-06-2016, 20:07
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They're also dropping restrictions on tethering, Android first with iOS to follow.
Is that stated anywhere officially? I can't see it in the terms and conditions, though I've only skim-read.
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Old 01-06-2016, 20:20
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Is that stated anywhere officially? I can't see it in the terms and conditions, though I've only skim-read.
Found it In a press release here http://www.btplc.com/news/#/pressrel...brands-1425649

All BT Mobile SIMs now allow tethering for Android users and it will soon be enabled for Apple users
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Old 01-06-2016, 20:26
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Excellent news, though I'm slightly p'd as I recently cancelled a 20GB SIM only contract in the cooling off period as there was no tethering.

I may have to sign back up again, though I'd have preferred 20GB instead of 15
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Old 02-06-2016, 09:27
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Im guess Android is ready to go for tethering as its never been blocked and that they need to get Apple to change the BT carrier profile.

This is excellent news for me as ive always had to switch my sim to my backup android phone for tethering.
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Old 02-06-2016, 10:24
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What about Windows phones? Are they good to go or do the also rely on BT changing something their end to allow tethering?
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Old 02-06-2016, 13:46
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What about Windows phones? Are they good to go or do the also rely on BT changing something their end to allow tethering?
Windows phones should be good to go. There is no restriction unless your device has carrier specific firmware. BT does not have specific firmware for Windows phones though.
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Old 02-06-2016, 14:32
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Ta. Also had this confirmed over on the BT Forums.
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Old 02-06-2016, 15:09
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Glad they've kept the £5 a month plan for BT Broadband users!

Sod the Phone plans, I'll continue to get last year's model every few years, at half the price!
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Old 02-06-2016, 22:55
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so does this mean those of us on 20gb plans will be downgraded to 15gb? Not that it matters too much to me. I barely manage to use 3 or 4gb after trying really hard to stream a lot when I can easily do without lol.

I was thinking of cancelling my contract (£16 per month ) and taking out an EE SIM which allows tethering but not so sure now lol
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Old 03-06-2016, 13:18
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so does this mean those of us on 20gb plans will be downgraded to 15gb? Not that it matters too much to me. I barely manage to use 3 or 4gb after trying really hard to stream a lot when I can easily do without lol.

I was thinking of cancelling my contract (£16 per month ) and taking out an EE SIM which allows tethering but not so sure now lol
It seems that if you have 20GB you'll keep it (which is really annoying for me as I could have kept mine, if I knew that they were about to change the rules)

Looks like the only real difference now is that EE has VoLTE and wifi calling whereas BT does not - but I can't imagine they're far behind. IMO BT seems to have better customer services - when I cancelled the SIM I had before, it was done in less than 5 minutes using a UK call centre. I remember having to cancel an EE SIM on behalf of my dad and it was a huge ordeal.

I wonder if the ban on tethering was something EE (as an independent company) imposed on BT. That contract has possibly been renewed (I think BT mobile launched this time a year or two ago), and since BT owns EE, it can now obtain better terms including allowing tethering?
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Old 03-06-2016, 16:28
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EE also have double speed, which is an add on with bt mobile.
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Old 03-06-2016, 16:34
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At EE's current prices you'll be paying more anyway though - unless you got a special deal like the 16GB for £20 a while back

£34 per month for 16GB with EE, or £21 per month for 15GB with BT (with a further discount if you have BT broadband). Even if you pay for BT's double speed addon, you're paying £9 more for EE for 1GB extra. Plus BT has the £60 gift card, which knocks it down further.

And you don't get double speed on EE unless you get a higher priced plan anyway
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Old 03-06-2016, 16:34
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EE also have double speed, which is an add on with bt mobile.
It's kind of an add-on on EE as well. You need an EE Extra or Complete plan to get it.
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Old 03-06-2016, 18:52
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It seems that if you have 20GB you'll keep it (which is really annoying for me as I could have kept mine, if I knew that they were about to change the rules)

Looks like the only real difference now is that EE has VoLTE and wifi calling whereas BT does not - but I can't imagine they're far behind. IMO BT seems to have better customer services - when I cancelled the SIM I had before, it was done in less than 5 minutes using a UK call centre. I remember having to cancel an EE SIM on behalf of my dad and it was a huge ordeal.

I wonder if the ban on tethering was something EE (as an independent company) imposed on BT. That contract has possibly been renewed (I think BT mobile launched this time a year or two ago), and since BT owns EE, it can now obtain better terms including allowing tethering?

I think the 'ban' in tethering was possibly because tetherers tend to use a lot more data and it's really difficult to use 20gb without tethering. Therefore it's a false sense of value for the customer paying for data they won't use

I'm guessing bt have got on the tethering bandwagon as EE may have more data capacity and also they reduced new plans to 15gb so it should be manageable.

I'll probably stick with BT but it means I'm stuck with BT broadband if I want the discounted rate .
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Old 03-06-2016, 19:06
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It's kind of an add-on on EE as well. You need an EE Extra or Complete plan to get it.
You say double speed with BT, but is this "double-speed" still capped at 60Mbps?
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Old 03-06-2016, 21:12
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It's kind of an add-on on EE as well. You need an EE Extra or Complete plan to get it.
My plan isn't an extra or complete plan and I get double speed.
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Old 03-06-2016, 23:22
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My plan isn't an extra or complete plan and I get double speed.
When did you get your plan though?
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Old 04-06-2016, 14:54
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Around a year ago. Sim only 6GB data.
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Old 04-06-2016, 15:39
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Around a year ago. Sim only 6GB data.
6GB plans have always had double speed iirc...


http://ee.co.uk/help/add-ons-benefit...plan-brochures
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