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Will CS and EE bosses learn anything from the viewer's vote?
What a result on Sunday. Judging by the year's output from the golden two, I'm not too surprised by the public's opinion.
Will senior manager's heads roll, probably not - but serious axing needs to take place.. New writers are a must and better direction/production. Axe deadwood characters - complacent with their safe long-term contracts. Think outside the box - rather than panicking, bringing back old characters, often from the dead. Introduce new families with contemporary storylines. And modern relationships. Real characters not stereotypes. Perhaps new locations, do all Eastenders and Mancurians live in the local pub? Does no-one have a hobby, a sports talent. I can just imagine the comedy potential of Sally and Tim joining the badminton club or Billy and Saun taking evening classes. I feel a "SWAT" analysis coming on!
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Corrie needs a lot of changes as has been said many times on here before, and yes new writers, storyliners etc, with Kate Oates there now hopefully this can happen. Regarding EE though, I don't think Emmerdale won by default because Eastenders wasn't as good, I just think Emmerdale has been better and more consistent these past 12 months.
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The best actress was viewer voted wasn't it? Eastenders won that so I agree with Ben. I think Emmerdale probably just edged it in the final vote for best soap.
It embarrassing for Corrie to be beaten by Emmerdale. Could Emmerdale be on its way to becoming ITV1's number one soap? |
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I'm not so sure. I don't think the soaps look at the awards as the only way of judging where they are at.
These days I think social media has a far bigger impact on the soaps, you only have to see the following of robron to realise they will see what the audience want and find ways to make the most popular characters have the biggest storylines. Those people are most likely to vote because of that fact. So if anything I think it would do more damage to CS and EE if they pander to the twitter audience who want to see certain characters take all the limelight. Personally I like soaps to reflect a more normal and everyday type of life and Emmerdale is far removed from the soap it started out to be. I think its pathetic the amount of events that happen in a tiny village in the dales. They all dress like they are in tops jobs working in the city, not a little rural village! All these little things ruin the show for me, yet a large part of the audience will be vein people who want people to look really well dressed and styled. Yet if you were to go to the dales you would hardly see anyone dressed like that everyday! I'd hate for CS for example to go down the route ED has taken, but with Katie Oates at the helm I do fear for the show and what direction she may take it in. As for EE I think DTC has done a lot of damage and ruined half the cast with the sensational storylines he has done and its not exactly helped cover them in glory at the awards. So again I'd say there is proof there that the real EE fans would prefer the show to be a bit more realistic and develop the characters better. Don't just aim for big storylines and drag them out, instead get a consistent pacing to the show and give everyone a fair share of screen time. |
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I'm not so sure. I don't think the soaps look at the awards as the only way of judging where they are at.
These days I think social media has a far bigger impact on the soaps, you only have to see the following of robron to realise they will see what the audience want and find ways to make the most popular characters have the biggest storylines. Those people are most likely to vote because of that fact. So if anything I think it would do more damage to CS and EE if they pander to the twitter audience who want to see certain characters take all the limelight. Personally I like soaps to reflect a more normal and everyday type of life and Emmerdale is far removed from the soap it started out to be. think its pathetic the amount of events that happen in a tiny village in the dales. They all dress like they are in tops jobs working in the city, not a little rural village! All these little things ruin the show for me, yet a large part of the audience will be vein people who want people to look really well dressed and styled. Yet if you were to go to the dales you would hardly see anyone dressed like that everyday I'd hate for CS for example to go down the route ED has taken, but with Katie Oates at the helm I do fear for the show and what direction she may take it in. As for EE I think DTC has done a lot of damage and ruined half the cast with the sensational storylines he has done and its not exactly helped cover them in glory at the awards. So again I'd say there is proof there that the real EE fans would prefer the show to be a bit more realistic and develop the characters better. Don't just aim for big storylines and drag them out, instead get a consistent pacing to the show and give everyone a fair share of screen time. |
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EE problem is consistency and OTT storylines. Last Autumn was a real mess. Max being sent down etc / Kathy return / Mitchell and Hubbard feud. It picked up really well in New Year with Stacey / Kat / Carter wedding / Phil drunk. Then lapsed again. New Producer needs to sort out pacing. Secondly get better storylining team. Preferably not folks so arrogant that they keep piling on more and more chit to a dung heap convinced they will produce champion grade roses.
Don't watch CS. Living as I do in Emmerdale country I don't see the folks dress any different to that I see everyday. OK farmers wear overalls but so does Moira. Perhaps not her low cut tops though! |
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Its no different from all outrageous things that happen in one tiny street in Manchester or a Square in London's East End.
Corrie might not be as unrealistic in terms of sensationalist stuff, but it is in other regards. For example, everyone working on their doorstep, only having relationships with people on the street, If you have an affair it has to be with your neighbour, no one goes into town for a meal or celebration, it's the Rovers or the Bistro. But, at the end of the dya, it's a soap so some suspension of disbelief is required I suppose. |
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Its no different from all outrageous things that happen in one tiny street in Manchester or a Square in London's East End.
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The best actress was viewer voted wasn't it? Eastenders won that so I agree with Ben. I think Emmerdale probably just edged it in the final vote for best soap.
It embarrassing for Corrie to be beaten by Emmerdale. Could Emmerdale be on its way to becoming ITV1's number one soap? |
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The best actress was viewer voted wasn't it? Eastenders won that so I agree with Ben. I think Emmerdale probably just edged it in the final vote for best soap.
It embarrassing for Corrie to be beaten by Emmerdale. Could Emmerdale be on its way to becoming ITV1's number one soap? ![]()
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EE problem is consistency and OTT storylines. Last Autumn was a real mess. Max being sent down etc / Kathy return / Mitchell and Hubbard feud. It picked up really well in New Year with Stacey / Kat / Carter wedding / Phil drunk. Then lapsed again. New Producer needs to sort out pacing. Secondly get better storylining team. Preferably not folks so arrogant that they keep piling on more and more chit to a dung heap convinced they will produce champion grade roses.
Eastenders doesn't feel natural right now. Storylines pick up pace, then go dead for a few weeks, then they pick up pace again, and then go dead again. This was Eastenders biggest flaw under DTC and i really hope that stops now, it's so hard to follow when this is happening. Emmerdale has found the perfect balance in my opinion. The storylnes flow at a good pace and don't get dropped for a few weeks at vital points. I also think there is better interaction between cast members. The communication feel's more real, in Eastenders it feel's very forced. |
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I agree about Eastenders, consistency is a big problem for them. Last year was a mess in my opinion, they dragged out every storyline as long as they could and tried to make them explosive for Christmas and New Years. They rely too heavily on those dates, it needs to be good throughout the whole year, not the final week of the year.
Eastenders doesn't feel natural right now. Storylines pick up pace, then go dead for a few weeks, then they pick up pace again, and then go dead again. This was Eastenders biggest flaw under DTC and i really hope that stops now, it's so hard to follow when this is happening. Emmerdale has found the perfect balance in my opinion. The storylnes flow at a good pace and don't get dropped for a few weeks at vital points. I also think there is better interaction between cast members. The communication feel's more real, in Eastenders it feel's very forced. |
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They'll learn that Emmerdale is a great soap
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It embarrassing for Corrie to be beaten by Emmerdale. Could Emmerdale be on its way to becoming ITV1's number one soap?
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Must have been close between Enders and Emmerdale
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Maybe itv will take more notice. Emmerdale is always treated as second best to Coronation Street by the channel.Coronation Streets constantly gets pushed by itv when in reality Emmerdale is by far the stronger of the 2 soaps for some time.
The vote result i believe was very close for Emmerdale winning best soap. But lets not forget, some of the Emmerdale cast have openly admitted they plugged and plugged for votes on social media, i have no issue with this, i think every soap star should push for their own soap as much as possible. EastEnders would have been a close 2nd. Emmerdale has remained consistent not only for the last 12 months but for over 2 years or more. EastEnders has had some great moments in that time but it also hit black spots in the same period. What will be most interesting in the coming 12 months is, Corrie, EastEnders and Emmerdale all have new producers so changes will occur. I am interested to see who will be the most successful, my money is on Kate Oates but anything can happen. That said Kate Oates also has the most challenging job of the 3 as Corrie is absolutely terrible at the moment. In relation to the soap awards lets not forget Coronation Live went home empty handed, EastEnders Live in comparison cleaned up at the awards the previous year. |
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Maybe itv will take more notice. Emmerdale is always treated as second best to Coronation Street by the channel.Coronation Streets constantly gets pushed by itv when in reality Emmerdale is by far the stronger of the 2 soaps for some time.
The vote result i believe was very close for Emmerdale winning best soap. But lets not forget, some of the Emmerdale cast have openly admitted they plugged and plugged for votes on social media, i have no issue with this, i think every soap star should push for their own soap as much as possible. EastEnders would have been a close 2nd. Emmerdale has remained consistent not only for the last 12 months but for over 2 years or more. EastEnders has had some great moments in that time but it also hit black spots in the same period. What will be most interesting in the coming 12 months is, Corrie, EastEnders and Emmerdale all have new producers so changes will occur. I am interested to see who will be the most successful, my money is on Kate Oates but anything can happen. That said Kate Oates also has the most challenging job of the 3 as Corrie is absolutely terrible at the moment. In relation to the soap awards lets not forget Coronation Live went home empty handed, EastEnders Live in comparison cleaned up at the awards the previous year. |
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EastEnders has been on par with Emmerdale in terms of quality.
Patchy over the past year but with some very strong moments. Both have been way out in front of Corrie and Hollyoaks. It had to go to someone and either EastEnders or Emmerdale were deserving winners of Best Soap. Lacey Turner got best actress so EE didn't go home empty handed in the viewer-voted categories of which there were only three. Danny Miller was always a safe bet for best actor with the Robron fans on-side and after doing his party-piece: crying pretty much all year. I doubt EastEnders are that bothered. They won more awards than any other soap on the night - one of Emmerdale's was shared with Corrie and for a guy who did more work on the latter - and are the most awarded soap in general. Panel awards shouldn't be dismissed and are still a recognition of the work produced. They may still have won them under a public vote. We'll never know. |
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I don't think there's anything for them too learn to be honest. If anything, ignore Twitter and the forums and just concerntrate on making their prospective shows good!
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Once Hollyoaks won best soap it made the Soap Awards meaningless.
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I think the National Television Awards are the ones they want most, failing to win that probably has a bigger impact than these naff awards.
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LOL please. I hope not! It's the first time in 18 years Emmerdale won (heck, dire HO won before them...
) and also it won the same year boring Robron dominated... coincidence?? Lol let them have their chance xxxx
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Once Hollyoaks won best soap it made the Soap Awards meaningless.
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I don't think too much store can be set by the BSAs to be honest!!
It very much depends who has the best s/l of that particular year!! This year has been ED's seemingly largely because of the Aaron abuse s/l, a couple of years ago Corrie cleaned up with the Roy/Hayley s/l!! That said I was more than happy to see Emmerdale have it's success this year!! It is good for the awards to be spread around & I fullly admit it would have been a gross injustice if my soap, Corrie had won it this year as it's had a largely dire year!! |
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All times are GMT. The time now is 12:45.




) and also it won the same year boring Robron dominated... coincidence?? Lol let them have their chance xxxx