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Old 01-06-2016, 12:47
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I just don't understand it at all. Yes Steven caused them a lot of problems but bobby killed their daughter.
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:53
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She has raised Bobby since he was a baby. She didn't know who Steven was until two weeks before he shot her so I suppose she has more of a maternal connection to Bobby.
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Old 01-06-2016, 13:00
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Funnily enough I just remembered something.

Ian protected Steven and even paid for him to have treatment in a private clinic in the exact same way Jane has protected Bobby. Role reversal if you like so it will be interesting to see if Jane eventually snaps like Ian did with Steven and ends up disowning Bobby.
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Old 01-06-2016, 13:20
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When Steven left, Ian disowned him and said if he returned, he'd kill him. But why was Ian fine with Peter and Lauren going to stay with Steven in New Zealand?
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Old 01-06-2016, 13:24
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I just don't understand it at all. Yes Steven caused them a lot of problems but bobby killed their daughter.
Careful! I raised this point on another thread and was told that what Steven had done to them was far worse than bobby! but for the record, I agree with you. Although to be fair, Jane didn't really know Steven and we know how blinkered she is when it comes to Bobby.
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Old 01-06-2016, 13:31
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Ian stood by Steven until he walked in on him trying to kill Pat. I think that was the turning point wasn't it?
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Old 01-06-2016, 13:54
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Ian stood by Steven until he walked in on him trying to kill Pat. I think that was the turning point wasn't it?
Yes, and then he found out Steven was telling Lucy that Ian wasn't bothered about her and he was trying to pack her off to France. You can totally understand why he disowned him. But then Steven never actually killed anyone, bobby had and battered Jane's head in!
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Old 01-06-2016, 13:55
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I just don't understand it at all. Yes Steven caused them a lot of problems but bobby killed their daughter.
Ian raised Steven until he was 12/13 and then he discovered Ian wasn't he father, rejected him and went to live with Simon, this was around the time Laura discovered she was pregnant with Bobby etc, Jane come in afterwards 2004/05 after Steven had left so she never knew him like the other three and she raised Bobby since he was a baby,

Steven returned and terrorised Ian and Jane, held Ian hostage, shot Jane an tried to run away with Lucy and tried to murder Pat.

Steven will always been the person who stopped her having a child, as after he shot her she had her womb removed.

I think it different because Bobby is Ian's and he was just a child barely 10, he tried with Steven but ultimately it was thrown back in his face as Steven held a grudge.

It a warped sense of loyalty but that how I've intepreted it with them.

When Steven left, Ian disowned him and said if he returned, he'd kill him. But why was Ian fine with Peter and Lauren going to stay with Steven in New Zealand?

It's not like Ian could stop him, Peter is still Steven's brother and how they left things it's not like could argue about it.
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Old 01-06-2016, 13:58
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Ian raised Steven until he was 12/13 and then he discovered Ian wasn't he father, rejected him and went to live with Simon, this was around the time Laura discovered she was pregnant with Bobby etc, Jane come in afterwards 2004/05 after Steven had left so she never knew him like the other three and she raised Bobby since he was a baby,

Steven returned and terrorised Ian and Jane, held Ian hostage, shot Jane an tried to run away with Lucy and tried to murder Pat.

Steven will always been the person who stopped her having a child, as after he shot her she had her womb removed.

I think it different because Bobby is Ian's and he was just a child barely 10, he tried with Steven but ultimately it was thrown back in his face as Steven held a grudge.

It a warped sense of loyalty but that how I've intepreted it with them.




It's not like Ian could stop him, Peter is still Steven's brother and how they left things it's not like could argue about it.
I like your take on the situation, especially the bit in bold!
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Old 01-06-2016, 14:56
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Bobby's actions were him lashing out in anger mainly, although giving Jane three of the best kind of denies that. Steven's were calculated in that he deliberately set out to cause trouble by brainwashing Lucy over weeks to assist him.
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Old 01-06-2016, 15:45
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Because Stephen isn't their child.
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Old 01-06-2016, 17:09
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Steven went off the rails at about the same sort of age as Bobby but just not murderously.

Steven seems to have been very badly affected by the various father/mother figures who passed through his life (Ian, Cindy, Simon, Ian again, Nick, Mel and Laura) and when he found out about Ian using Janine's services he told Laura and sided with her, forcing Ian out of the family home. He was caught writing poison pen letters and in the ensuing confrontation, Ian revealed that he was not Steven's biological father. This is when Steven went off to live with Simon in New Zealand.

As well as making a pass at Jane, kidnaping Ian, accidently shooting Jane and accusing Christian of trying to seduce him, Steven helped a run-away Lucy hide from Jane and Ian - while making out he was trying to help to their faces - and even bought her a Eurostar ticket to France. He tried to kill Pat too.

Jane has never really gotten on well with Steven and Ian washed his hands of him.

I suppose Ian and Jane have been looking at Bobby as having lashed out in anger, but Steven planned what he did.
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Old 01-06-2016, 17:26
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This place beggars belief!

Stephen indulged in a lot of psychopathic pre-meditated activities, trying to kill Pat, shot Jane (with a gun he obviously had for a reason) He was a teenager too.

Bobby is a little boy, who lost his temper with unfortunate consequences. It wasn't pre meditated.

The real question is, why are we suddenly loving Stephen and Ben? What Bobby did was no different to what Ben did to Heather.
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Old 01-06-2016, 19:04
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When Steven left, Ian disowned him and said if he returned, he'd kill him. But why was Ian fine with Peter and Lauren going to stay with Steven in New Zealand?
He couldn't stop the twins from having contact with Steven as he is their half brother. That would be unethical and would have hurt Peter and Lucy. He does however have the right to insist that Steven keep away from him, Jane and Walford.
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Old 01-06-2016, 19:08
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This place beggars belief!

Stephen indulged in a lot of psychopathic pre-meditated activities, trying to kill Pat, shot Jane (with a gun he obviously had for a reason) He was a teenager too.

Bobby is a little boy, who lost his temper with unfortunate consequences. It wasn't pre meditated.

The real question is, why are we suddenly loving Stephen and Ben? What Bobby did was no different to what Ben did to Heather.
Attempting to kill Pat was premediated but the shooting of Jane was an accident. When Steven was trying to kill himself, Ian, Jane and lucy tried to stop him. The gun accidentally went off in the struggle and wounded Jane. Also the gun did not belong to Steven. When Lucy's boyfriend was arrested he left it in Lucy's possession. Lucy asked Steven to hand it in to the police but the policeman thought he was there in connection with Ian's disappearance so Steven ended up keeping the gun. However the stalking and kidnapping was premeditated though at the time Steven was clearly unhinged or else ian wouldn't have paid for him to get psychiatric treatment in a hospital.
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Old 01-06-2016, 19:11
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Steven isn't blood related to either Jane or Ian, and Jane didn't raise him as a boy. He was also an adult when he shot Jane- not a ten year old.
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Old 01-06-2016, 19:14
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The Beale kids are a confusing bunch. So basically Stephen is no relation to Bobby, but is half brother to Cindy Jr (who is no relation to Ian), and to Lucy and Peter. Cindy Jr is also no blood relation to Bobby but Half-sister to the other three. Peter and Lucy are of course full siblings and twins, and ARE related to their half-brother Bobby. eeesh!
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Old 01-06-2016, 19:18
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King Bobby is a modern day Macauley Culkin with murderous tendencies. I defy anyone to look at that face and stay mad. All I can think of when I see him is Care Bears, rainbows, unicorns and cotton candy. No wonder Jane let him beat the living shit out of her. You can't stay mad at that little guy. It was probably an honour for her.
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