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World Wrestling Entertainment Discussion 42 (Spoilers)
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dave_windows
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“It's odd. Smackdown is the show of opportunity, Shane is the one who came back to give people who wouldn't normally get an opportunity that opportunity yet there is only one person out of five that isn't either a former World Champion or hasnt competed for it (to the best of my knowledge).

Raw however gives Balor (on his debut), Zayn, Owens, Cesaro, Rusev their first ever chance at the top title race”

That problem could be down to it being the same writers in creative who've written the show for the past 5 years. Now Shane in creative then it might change.

If it had been me personally choosing which 6 would be given the opportunity I would have chosen

AJ Styles
Apollo Crews
Shelton Benjamin (His return match what better way to return)
Baron Corbin
Kalisto
Jimmy Uso (Because of his singles action the past weeks)

The last two I probably wouldnt have chosen because I would have chosen Cesaro during the draft along with Zayn.

I still dont understand the logic in Owens & Zayn on the same show.
dave_windows
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“Dolph Ziggler. Sums up this ****ing show perfectly.”

Im glad Bray didnt win and think they did it for a shock win to suprise us, but I do wish it had been a person who wouldnt normally get a shot at the title kinda like how Finn got on Raw.
dave_windows
27-07-2016
Ok so seeing as Hollie called me out on this in a jokey kind of way going by Smackdown having 27 picks this is who Ive gone for. Id have the 6 NXT picks as a exclusive to Smackdown and alough it might not be dazzling in time it would work out great.

Aiden English
AJ Styles
Apollo Crews
Austin Aries
Baron Corbin
Big Cass
Bo Dallas
Braun Strowman
Cesaro
Chad Gable
Curtis Axel
Darren Young
Dean Ambrose
Enzo Amore
Finn Bálor
Jason Jordan
Jey Uso
Jimmy Uso
Kalisto
Karl Anderson
Konnor
Luke Gallows
Sami Zayn
Shinsuke Nakamura
Simon Gotch
Tyler Breeze
Viktor

Going by 6 Divas for Smackdown id choose

Bayley
Becky Lynch
Dana Brooke
Nia Jax
Sasha Banks
Summer Rae

So Holly who would be your dream Smackdown roster given you can only have 27 males, 6 Divas and 6 NXT picks?
dazc
27-07-2016
Smackdown was ok raw was miles better ambrose vs Ziegler should be a good match in my option Bayley has to be on smackdown there is not enough decent women on sd just becky and Naomi and natalya wrestling wise
brb
27-07-2016
Lol. Ziggler.....
FMKK
27-07-2016
Can someone tell me when Ziggler last had an actually good match?
batdude_uk1
27-07-2016
So still no update on the women and what they are fighting for on Smackdown??

Are we just going to have them basically as filler, seeing as they don't have any title to aspire to?

Surely that needs addressing pretty soon??
CardioCortez
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“So still no update on the women and what they are fighting for on Smackdown??

Are we just going to have them basically as filler, seeing as they don't have any title to aspire to?

Surely that needs addressing pretty soon??”

You clearly weren't paying attention.

They're battling for "Best Entrance 2016" in the Slammys.
PandaPawPaw
27-07-2016
First off are there any women in the WWE who are actually natural? They all look as fake as Mark Walberg's shlong from Boogie Nights. Becky is probably the only one close to looking normal.

Also what reason is there to give two shits about the women on SD!? Naffomi acting like she's hot shit when really she's just the latter.

That swaying camera was bloody irratating!

Not liking SD! graphics. Considering what they could do, it's all just meh. They should look at New Japan on how to make something look awesome.

Glad Mr 'Ain't Stoppin Me Now' is coming back. Seriously underated wrestler!

Last of all that HBK wannabe is facing Ambrose? WTF!? Eh!? Say whaaaaaat!? Exsqueeze me baking powder!?
cris182
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“So still no update on the women and what they are fighting for on Smackdown??

Are we just going to have them basically as filler, seeing as they don't have any title to aspire to?

Surely that needs addressing pretty soon??”

Give it time, It 'could' end up a storyline where one woman dominates and then says 'why am i bothering' and they go from there

Or yes they could just be filler, You just ignore that they have no title and let them be the best
Sargeant80
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by PandaPawPaw:
“First off are there any women in the WWE who are actually natural? They all look as fake as Mark Walberg's shlong from Boogie Nights. Becky is probably the only one close to looking normal.

Also what reason is there to give two shits about the women on SD!? Naffomi acting like she's hot shit when really she's just the latter.

That swaying camera was bloody irratating!

Not liking SD! graphics. Considering what they could do, it's all just meh. They should look at New Japan on how to make something look awesome.

Glad Mr 'Ain't Stoppin Me Now' is coming back. Seriously underated wrestler!

Last of all that HBK wannabe is facing Ambrose? WTF!? Eh!? Say whaaaaaat!? Exsqueeze me baking powder!?”

If by natural, you mean looking normal probably maryse and naomi. The others are too much makeup, too much fake tan and very odd hair colour choices.

If you mean boobs then becky. Its been said lots of them get boob jobs because with their high fitness and very low body fat they tend to lose what they had.
batdude_uk1
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by cris182:
“Give it time, It 'could' end up a storyline where one woman dominates and then says 'why am i bothering' and they go from there

Or yes they could just be filler, You just ignore that they have no title and let them be the best”

It is just a tad annoying, as they quickly managed to sort out the male world title situation on Raw, when they came up with that bizarre sounding name, why not do something similar on Smackdown for the women?

So much for them concentrating on the women. Typical.
dee123
27-07-2016
I still think Orton should be in Raw and Cesaro should be in Smackdown.
JMTD
27-07-2016
Raw was fantastic, Smackdown was poor (I'm talking full on clusterfu*k).

One thing I don't get what so ever is why they've changed the camera work/angles on Smackdown (more so for the matches). It's a case of trying to do something different just for the sake of it when there wasn't anything wrong with the angles and filming in the first place. I'd expect angles and camera work like that from a small independent company, it's actually bizarre and something that might not seem big to some but will certainly put me off watching.
PDS1985
27-07-2016
Smackdown Fallout video - Alexa Bliss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QrK-xQFx8o
PandaPawPaw
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by PDS1985:
“Smackdown Fallout video - Alexa Bliss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QrK-xQFx8o”

"To never bliss me off".

Oh Okay.

I hope she's blisses off.
JMTD
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by PandaPawPaw:
“"To never bliss me off".

Oh Okay.

I hope she's blisses off.”

Bliss is great, the best female heel they have right now, she's flown under the radar for the last year or so.
PandaPawPaw
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by JMTD:
“Bliss is great, the best female heel they have right now, she's flown under the radar for the last year or so.”

Do you mean on SD or out of all the women?

I just can't warm to her.

Also watching CWC ep 2 and T.J. Perkins is really good.

O/T: I still don't know whether to upgrade to Windows 10.
JMTD
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by PandaPawPaw:
“Do you mean on SD or out of all the women?

I just can't warm to her.

Also watching CWC ep 2 and T.J. Perkins is really good.

O/T: I still don't know whether to upgrade to Windows 10.”

In general. She's been flying under the radar quite a bit in NXT with the likes of Sasha, Bayley, Asuka taking the headlines while Bliss has been steadily improving her character and looking and sounding like a real heel but not getting enough credit for it. One to watch as long as they don't continue to book things like an absolute mess over on Smackdown.

Windows 7 still for me Laptop has been slow as sh*t since I stuck 10 on it, probably more down to the quality of the Laptop though in fairness.
FMKK
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by JMTD:
“Raw was fantastic, Smackdown was poor (I'm talking full on clusterfu*k).

One thing I don't get what so ever is why they've changed the camera work/angles on Smackdown (more so for the matches). It's a case of trying to do something different just for the sake of it when there wasn't anything wrong with the angles and filming in the first place. I'd expect angles and camera work like that from a small independent company, it's actually bizarre and something that might not seem big to some but will certainly put me off watching.”

Not even the case. WWE's camera work has been absolutely atrocious for a while now and is seemingly getting worse. They do all these stupid cuts and zooms to try and create motion and end up missing loads of moves and being impossible to watch. I know Vince and Kevin Dunn are obsessed with all this 'entertainment' shite but that doesn't mean that they should film their show like one of those awful reality series for people with no attention span.
FMKK
27-07-2016
I think Dolph has got to got to got to go heel on Ambrose next week to make this in any way useful. He needs a change so badly and it will even fit in with him saying that he's not going to let any opportunities slip away again etc.
Danny_Francis
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“I think Dolph has got to got to got to go heel on Ambrose next week to make this in any way useful. He needs a change so badly and it will even fit in with him saying that he's not going to let any opportunities slip away again etc.”

I'm a big fan of Dolph about time he gets a push again and a heel turn would do him the world of good. He's got far too much talent to be a jobber
Sinister2010
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“I think Dolph has got to got to got to go heel on Ambrose next week to make this in any way useful. He needs a change so badly and it will even fit in with him saying that he's not going to let any opportunities slip away again etc.”

I was just about to post something similar but you beat me to it lol. Agreed though if there is anyone that desperately needs a heel turn it's Dolph his at his best as a heel plus isn't his Twitter username @heelziggler? Also he refers himself as the Show Off which screams heel nuff said.
PDS1985
27-07-2016
Dolph Ziggler was a good heel with Vickie and AJ Lee but I hope they don't pair him up with another female valet next time he turns heel.
PandaPawPaw
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by JMTD:
“Windows 7 still for me Laptop has been slow as sh*t since I stuck 10 on it, probably more down to the quality of the Laptop though in fairness.”

I don't think I will bother as it seems CS6 may or may not work from what I've read (works for some, don't for others).

Originally Posted by FMKK:
“Not even the case. WWE's camera work has been absolutely atrocious for a while now and is seemingly getting worse. They do all these stupid cuts and zooms to try and create motion and end up missing loads of moves and being impossible to watch. I know Vince and Kevin Dunn are obsessed with all this 'entertainment' shite but that doesn't mean that they should film their show like one of those awful reality series for people with no attention span.”

America in general are shite when it comes to action. They're obsessed with quick cuts and close up shots where you can't see what's going on.

I remember watching the Expendables and that gave me a headache due to the shitty way the fights are shot (Crap film too).
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