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#2901 |
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If the WWE doesn't punish Lesnar the media will be all over them.
They need positive PR and Vince loves his PR. |
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#2902 |
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Surely it's be win-win for WWE to "suspend" Lesnar? He's not appearing as it is so they're hardly punishing him but in the media's eye they've done something about it. Obviously, us fans know he hasn't exactly been punished but it looks like they've done something about it to everybody else.
The only way to really punish him is to make his opponent dominate the match and destroy him in the ring. Mind you Lesnar looked like a total jobber in the Rumble when the Wyatt's did one or two moves and he was looking like a enhancement talent. All that pushing him as a beast and then the Rumble match and they just made him look weak. |
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Lesnar doesn't care if he loses. As long as he's paid, that's all that matters.
As for fining him, WWE agreed to the contract that made him exempt from testing, so I don't think WWE could fine him without getting into a potential contract dispute. |
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If a wrestler is exempt from testing then what happens if that wrestler dies because he was taking some dodgy drug?
Wouldn't that make the WWE look real bad or would they just fob it off and say it's the wrestlers own fault? All wrestlers should be tested and treated fairly but it is the WWE so no chance. |
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I see Eric Bischoff is making his way to Glasgow in a few weeks. I didn't go to the Paul Heyman one either. I think if they did this 5 years ago I would have went, so many times wrestlers come here and the only one I ever went to was Jim Ross. I think it's also because I know the fans there wouldn't ask the kind of questions I would, they wont want to challenge him, nor would they challenge anyone and any question I have wanted to ask has already been asked in shoot interview dvds.
I watched the full length video of the Paul Heyman one and it seemed like a fun crowd. I think back to what ECW was and then the Smackdown show in the mid 2000s and I think no no, that's not the kind of wrestling I like lol. Not saying the man himself isn't a nice person though. I think if they are testing for dodgy drugs then everyone should be tested. Unfortunately with wrestling, the way it used to be was everything was image, how you looked, it's changed now, there's a lot of average sized men in the ring now and so when you see a Brock Lesnar you can really see the difference. I think wrestlers should be able to enhance their body if it's done in a safe way. I don't think that should be against any rules because they're not enhancing their performance in any way, wrestling is a work, they know who's gonna win and lose and even forget wrestling for a minute, just TV in general, you need to pass the TV test. And that goes for the people you see on X Factor to Big Brother to gameshows to wrestling. People that look good or unique tend to end up on TV. I think that goes for many shows on TV. I think many people would say if they saw WWE, many of those guys don't look like wrestlers, i say that all the time, I don't think i'm alone in that. I think if you asked the average man or woman in the street they would tell you the same because when people think of wrestling, they think a certain way, they EXPECT a certain way so I think wrestlers should be allowed to enhance their bodies because ultimately it is a show. It really is just for show, there's no real competition happening in the ring, no one wrestler is better than the other. |
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If a wrestler is exempt from testing then what happens if that wrestler dies because he was taking some dodgy drug?
Wouldn't that make the WWE look real bad or would they just fob it off and say it's the wrestlers own fault? All wrestlers should be tested and treated fairly but it is the WWE so no chance. As for being treated equally, The people not tested are the people WWE thinks are too big to risk upsetting so that is how they justify it to themselves |
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So much for the new email, that didn't last too long, Puff Daddy (or whatever he is calling himself these days) will be on Raw next week.
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So much for the new email, that didn't last too long, Puff Daddy (or whatever he is calling himself these days) will be on Raw next week.
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This would be a good tie-in for WWE. If it was the year 1997.
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So much for the new email, that didn't last too long, Puff Daddy (or whatever he is calling himself these days) will be on Raw next week.
And I'm now having horrible flashbacks to his WM29 performance - and WM29 in general. A Florida Georgia Line appearance can't be too far away. |
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They should get Lesnar and Orton in the ring together tonight and see if Orton is brave enough to drop some comments about his failed tests, would be interested to see what happens!
Lets hope with a new Raw we get a new Lesnar/Heymay act, not the usual Heyman standing in a ring talking with Lesnar staring in to a abyss and going on about Suplex City. Suplex City needs dropping for ever..maybe replace it with PED city or something. |
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I'll be watching Raw live tonight. Not excited for it though. Got the week off from work, so thought might as well. Heyman (who apparently HAS signed a new contract) and Lesnar should be interesting. Don't have much hope for the rest of the show.
Could we be treated to another good show two weeks in a row? Or will Raw go back to it's usual standard and make us waiting another few years for a good episode? We'll find out tonight at *Insert whatever time Raw airs*! |
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I really don't care for Diddy/Puffy/P. Diddy but a guest star doesn't make a bad show.
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I really don't care for Diddy/Puffy/P. Diddy but a guest star doesn't make a bad show.
And at this point, appearances by any of the crew of Diddy, Flo Rida or FGL are associated with terrible Raws and segments. Except for that Flo Rida concert where afterwards Steph got arrested. For slapping Brie Bella instead of the far more serious crime of allowing Flo Rida to perform. |
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... and if it was WCW, hell put him in a title match too.
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Lilian has sadly announced she's leaving the company to care for her father who has two forms of cancer.
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I take it JoJo will now be the main Raw announcer and Greg Hamilton the main SD Live announcer?
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I notice they don't have any Scottish wrestlers anymore.
And for those of you in Liverpool and London Vince Russo will be doing more one man shows, a Wrestler's Court Live! |
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I take it JoJo will now be the main Raw announcer and Greg Hamilton the main SD Live announcer?
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I notice they don't have any Scottish wrestlers anymore.
And for those of you in Liverpool and London Vince Russo will be doing more one man shows, a Wrestler's Court Live! Just joking, did you end up going to his one in Scotland I vaguely remember talking about? |
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Unfortunately the Scottish promoter's dont want to book him just now and he will not tell me who he met for his "dinner date" in Glasgow which literally lasted a few hours, he flew back down to England that night. Maybe he will announce more one man shows. I do know the reason he is over in October is Mickie James and Magnus (Nick Aldis) are working with him on some wrestling events over here then too, they haven't mentioned which shows though I'm sure those that know the indie scene could pin point which ones they are in England.
I think they are in sports bars so very casual for people and no pressure. |
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I'm off but good luck to anyone watching Raw live.
Last week was a fun show and frankly they more than have the roster for it to be a good watch every week so here's hoping it's even half as good as last week rather than the same old, same old. |
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I've gotten a bit bored of Lesnar especially since the Suplex City stuff. I wish they'd just let him wrestle and not shoehorn a bunch of suplexes as it's rather boring.
Heyman too just seems to talk and talk and say the same shite. Saying that Orton Vs Lesnar should hopefully be good. |
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#2925 |
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Heyman did a pretty good job of selling it at his UK show to be fair to him.
Rather annoyingly,
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I've spoilered it even though it been announced just in case |
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