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Old 11-06-2016, 14:20
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****ed up royally by actually publishing the video though. Gawker could have said anything they liked about Thiel or Hogan and they couldn't do anything. Without the video

It's still a narrow judgment regarding freedom of speech- they just ruled it is an invasion of privacy to upload a sex tape to the internet without the consent of those in it.
It is like when those photographers the other year decided to use a super zoom lens on a camera to take topless pictures of Kate Middleton when she was on holiday, then published then. It is a complete invasion of privacy.

Same with Hogan, the taped conversation when he was racist I am fine with, that was Hogan being stupid and stuff he should of never had said anyway. But releasing a sex tape without him consent, no way. It was sex between two consenting adults and breaking no law.
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Old 11-06-2016, 15:37
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Looks like this confirms that Roode has signed his deal:-

https://twitter.com/WWENXT/status/74...320162816?s=09
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Old 11-06-2016, 15:51
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Yeah PW Insider just confirmed Roode was at Download so looks like he's officially in NXT.

Should be good for the developing talent to have someone like Roode there to learn from, and of course should certainly have some good matches and show off his talent.

On another note Smackdown dipped below 2 million viewers this week. With the creative direction of WWE at the moment along with the fact that they won't really put the effort into Smackdown until it goes live its not really a surprise. The Brand Split and Tuesday Nights can't come soon enough for Smackdown.

Also WWE has actually put some further episodes of WCW Nitro on the Network. They're now up to May 2000 and have almost the entire run of Nitro on there.

WCW Thunder to follow soon possibly.
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Old 12-06-2016, 19:48
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Cute:
https://youtu.be/CG0Eb25VizM

Future Hall of Famer right there. This video will be in his induction package.

Amazing:
https://t.co/oA7RsEMiKn

That could be the main event of WM and have that exact finish.

Shocking:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BGifSnrwq8n/

Seth Rollins used a move banned by WWE 15 years ago.
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Old 12-06-2016, 22:38
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Jerry Lawler apparently telling folk at a signing today that the Royal Rumble/Wrestlemania/Summerslam/Survivor Series are the only mixed brand ppvs now and every other month will have one Raw and one Smackdown ppv/network special.
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Old 12-06-2016, 23:04
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Jerry Lawler apparently telling folk at a signing today that the Royal Rumble/Wrestlemania/Summerslam/Survivor Series are the only mixed brand ppvs now and every other month will have one Raw and one Smackdown ppv/network special.
Oh dear. I would be fine with brand exclusive PPVs if they mean no more gimmick PPVs but having two PPVs a month is way too much. One PPV per month similar to the 2003-06 format is fine enough and would allow for more time for the brands to build up matches for the PPVs.

With this news it's probably more likely there will be two world champions now since they'll want World Title matches to main event each PPV.
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Old 12-06-2016, 23:25
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Jerry Lawler apparently telling folk at a signing today that the Royal Rumble/Wrestlemania/Summerslam/Survivor Series are the only mixed brand ppvs now and every other month will have one Raw and one Smackdown ppv/network special.
Oh dear. I would be fine with brand exclusive PPVs if they mean no more gimmick PPVs but having two PPVs a month is way too much. One PPV per month similar to the 2003-06 format is fine enough and would allow for more time for the brands to build up matches for the PPVs.

With this news it's probably more likely there will be two world champions now since they'll want World Title matches to main event each PPV.
I'm prepared to give it a chance. Hopefully both brands will try to outdo each other, both onscreen (via the McMahons) and offscreen (With the creative teams).

And they aren't really PPV's anymore, they're network shows which all fall under the $10 a month umbrella, so more events does mean more value for money for network subscribers.

But if WWE are going to actually run 20 "PPV's" a year then they need to come up with some new and better names for them. I'm guessing the current PPV's will remain.

As I say ready to see what it can do but creative needs to step up.
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Old 13-06-2016, 00:11
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The issue I have with the brand extension is the view WWE has too big of a roster for the amount of TV hours they produce. As far as I'm concerned there are at least 15 names on the current (male) roster who are 'no hopers' in terms of star power - glorified jobber's with a very minor following at best.

Guys like Swagger, Fandango, Truth, Primo, Rowan, Axel, Slater etc. Some are more talented than others, but all of them are just card fillers. IMO they can't be repackaged at this point and have an effect on business. They're just...there and mostly iterchangeable. If the split has these acts featured more it will amount to nothing in the long term.

There aren't a massive amount of guys with an or potential upside. Those guys feature enough as it is.
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Old 13-06-2016, 00:47
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The difference between now and the old brand split was the old brand split was professional wrestling. Both shows were filled with characters and storylines. That's not what WWE do now. WWE just do matches with regular looking people with no purpose or rhyme or reason.

It's not gonna boost business. The only people watching it are the same people that already pay £10 a month for it. Same with Smackdown live, the only people that might watch it are those watching Raw the night before. It's not bringing in new fans or old fans.

Smackdown did less than 2 million viewers last week. Raw's third hour regularly falls below 3 million viewers, things aren't getting better and when football season starts in America you'll see all 3 hours of Raw fall below 3 million and maybe then something will change and maybe they'll go back to doing professional wrestling.
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Old 13-06-2016, 07:56
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Good for Hogan. If Gawker file for bankruptcy will Hogan get anywhere near the amount of money he is owed?
Maybe when this case is finally over it might encourage other celebs who's privacy was taken away to come forward.
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Old 13-06-2016, 07:58
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Smackdown was good last night hope Owens wins mib he is awesome looking forward to mib should be the best wwe Ppv this year
That would be the worst decision ever!

Cesaro or Ambrose needs to win this.
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Old 13-06-2016, 08:02
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I didnt mind Smackdown but Christ I am getting sick of other tag teams getting involved in other tag team matches.

I know the whole point is because there is a Fatal Four Way but it be nice if we got a pinfall before all the interference. Really wanted to see Cass beat The Club.
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Old 13-06-2016, 08:10
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The iron man match was a great match one of my favs of all time.
It indeed was a competitive set-up and especially when Chris Benoit was involved.
But it can get unfair when played between 2 disproportionate wrestlers (Say Rey-Mysterio and Big show)
It's good that most of them were between equal opponents.
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Old 13-06-2016, 08:17
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The difference between now and the old brand split was the old brand split was professional wrestling. Both shows were filled with characters and storylines. That's not what WWE do now. WWE just do matches with regular looking people with no purpose or rhyme or reason.

It's not gonna boost business. The only people watching it are the same people that already pay £10 a month for it. Same with Smackdown live, the only people that might watch it are those watching Raw the night before. It's not bringing in new fans or old fans.

Smackdown did less than 2 million viewers last week. Raw's third hour regularly falls below 3 million viewers, things aren't getting better and when football season starts in America you'll see all 3 hours of Raw fall below 3 million and maybe then something will change and maybe they'll go back to doing professional wrestling.
It was interesting up until 2012 but now I see all top wrestlers competing for US, tag team and Intercontinental titles. I mean AJ styles for WWE WH Champ? Come on!
I've completely lost interest in it.
There's no quality or star appeal with the new generation. I'd still pay to watch Rock, Stone cold, HHH, taker, Cena, Lesnar, Orton, Angle, Sheamus, Edge, Punk and kane in their prime.
Vince McMahon had an eye for the right talent who'd become stars. Without him its all boo hoo.
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Old 13-06-2016, 16:07
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It would be great if the Club come out tonight during The Ambrose Asylum with the Shield to start a feud for the future
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Old 13-06-2016, 17:30
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Looks like we will be having 2 PPV a month once the brand split happens
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Old 13-06-2016, 18:43
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Looks like we will be having 2 PPV a month once the brand split happens
Mega.

Was hoping for Brand Only PPV but every month switch so that way each show had 2 months to build up.
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Old 13-06-2016, 22:42
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Bit random but has anyone gone back and replayed matches from WM32 yet? I usually would of by now a few times but not even replayed one thing from it as of yet. Guess it sums up what a poor show it was.
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Old 13-06-2016, 22:43
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Could WWE be planning on doing two monthly pay-per-view events with the upcoming Brand Extension?

A Prowrestling.net reader who attended the 38th annual Superman Celebration in Metropolis, Illinois this weekend reports that Jerry Lawler said there will be two monthly pay-per-views for the Brand Extension - one for RAW and one for SmackDown, except for the top for events - the Royal Rumble, WrestleMania, SummerSlam and the Survivor Series.

The same reader was told by Lawler at the 2015 Superman event about SmackDown going live on Tuesday nights for the USA Network and that is obviously happening now.
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Old 13-06-2016, 23:10
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Could WWE be planning on doing two monthly pay-per-view events with the upcoming Brand Extension?

A Prowrestling.net reader who attended the 38th annual Superman Celebration in Metropolis, Illinois this weekend reports that Jerry Lawler said there will be two monthly pay-per-views for the Brand Extension - one for RAW and one for SmackDown, except for the top for events - the Royal Rumble, WrestleMania, SummerSlam and the Survivor Series.

The same reader was told by Lawler at the 2015 Superman event about SmackDown going live on Tuesday nights for the USA Network and that is obviously happening now.
As posted earlier on this page yes
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Old 13-06-2016, 23:12
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Could WWE be planning on doing two monthly pay-per-view events with the upcoming Brand Extension?

A Prowrestling.net reader who attended the 38th annual Superman Celebration in Metropolis, Illinois this weekend reports that Jerry Lawler said there will be two monthly pay-per-views for the Brand Extension - one for RAW and one for SmackDown, except for the top for events - the Royal Rumble, WrestleMania, SummerSlam and the Survivor Series.

The same reader was told by Lawler at the 2015 Superman event about SmackDown going live on Tuesday nights for the USA Network and that is obviously happening now.
I would have this PPV schedule:

Jan - Royal Rumble (Both)
Feb - No Way Out (Smackdown)
Mar - Wrestlemania (Both)
Apr - Backlash (Raw)
May - Payback (Smackdown)
Jun - Vengeance (Raw)
Jul - Battleground (Smackdown)
Aug - Summerslam (Both)
Sep - Unforgiven (Raw)
Oct - No Mercy (Smackdown)
Nov - Survivor Series (Both)
Dec - Armageddon (Raw)

And of course have network specials throughout the year too such as New Year's Revolution (Smackdown), Roadblock (Raw), King of the Ring (Both) as well as Raw/Smackdown house shows titled Live in London, Live From MSG, Capital Punishment (Washington, D.C) etc with one or two key matches. All that would be plenty for viewers.
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Old 13-06-2016, 23:13
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Bit random but has anyone gone back and replayed matches from WM32 yet? I usually would of by now a few times but not even replayed one thing from it as of yet. Guess it sums up what a poor show it was.
Not particularly. - maybe bits and pieces like HHH's bombastic entrance but not much else.

As you say t'was a poor show and felt like it would never end.
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Old 13-06-2016, 23:15
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Bit random but has anyone gone back and replayed matches from WM32 yet? I usually would of by now a few times but not even replayed one thing from it as of yet. Guess it sums up what a poor show it was.
The Women's Triple Threat.

Only part I've rewatched and it absolutely stole the show.
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Old 13-06-2016, 23:16
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I would have this PPV schedule:

Jan - Royal Rumble (Both)
Feb - No Way Out (Smackdown)
Mar - Wrestlemania (Both)
Apr - Backlash (Raw)
May - Payback (Smackdown)
Jun - Vengeance (Raw)
Jul - Battleground (Smackdown)
Aug - Summerslam (Both)
Sep - Unforgiven (Raw)
Oct - No Mercy (Smackdown)
Nov - Survivor Series (Both)
Dec - Armageddon (Raw)

And of course have network specials throughout the year too such as New Year's Revolution (Smackdown), Roadblock (Raw), King of the Ring (Both), Live in/from Wherever etc with one or two key matches presented in a house show format. All that would be plenty for viewers.
Poor Judgement Day and Great American Bash.

Not a bad schedule though at all and similar to what they had around 2006 or so - which I always quite liked as a schedule.

Hope the Lawler thing meant both would have events on alternating months (e.g. Raw April/Smackdown May) and the Big 4 together rather than both having events every month.
24 events a year or so would be ridiculous levels of overkill.
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Old 13-06-2016, 23:20
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Poor Judgement Day and Great American Bash.

Not a bad schedule though at all and similar to what they had around 2006 or so - which I always quite liked as a schedule.

Hope the Lawler thing meant both would have events on alternating months (e.g. Raw April/Smackdown May) and the Big 4 together rather than both having events every month.
24 events a year or so would be ridiculous levels of overkill.
Same thoughts as you, hoping he meant month for Raw then the next for Smackdown. I actually think right now there is to many PPV's so if they did increase it to 24 it would awful.

I do hope come the brand split everything changes, new sets for both shows, new music, opening credits ect. If they really want a new era they have to go full in with it and invest money. Right now nothing feels changed with this so called new era and this would be the perfect time to change it all up.
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