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World Wrestling Entertainment Discussion 42 (Spoilers)
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stu64
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by cris182:
“He is in danger of getting very over, And i am certain that is not their plan. Thought it was interesting they actually made sure you knew he was being brave and had guts rather than he was just stupid”

Yeah I enjoyed that segment as well, they should have Lesnar talk more as well. Slater v Lesnar at WM then
dave_windows
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sinister2010:
“Well Dave I hope you don't lose any sleep when I tell you this Rusev is surely gonna win this Sunday the result from last night might well have been a massive giveaway.”

What would be the point? Reigns has lost the last 2 times.
Lee_Smith2
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by hazydayz:
“It might not be the end of WWE on prime time TV in the USA but I don't think either USA or NBC are gonna sweep it under the rug. If i was WWE i'd be trying to get those 1 million + viewers back and you see it with the big shows and the big events on Raw that they can do it, when they really try they can get 4 million viewers, even if it's just for one hour or a few segments, clearly the people are there to watch when it interests, the hard part is getting them to watch every week again. I don't have the ratings to hand but I do remember there being a big drop and then it just started going down. I thought it started it at the Royal Rumble 2015 but I remember reading it actually started in December at one of the Raws where there was quite a big drop. I personally didn't notice a huge difference in the shows, I know the Daniel Bryan situation pissed people off but I've no idea why there's been such a huge drop in viewers. You know more than me with how much gets made on the ads compared to how much WWE is being paid but even if they put Raw on earlier at 5pm, that might get them more sponsors too and open them up to a lot of other companies.”

The thing is it goes out at 8pm for 47% of the country. For example, it airs at 5pm in California and 7pm in Texas.
FMKK
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by AceMcCloud:
“I like the demon but I think it's been handled very poorly

I might be being harsh but if it was me I would've made the demon transformation a big thing, and while it wasn't as bad as it could be, I really thought he was going to cut a promo in the ring as the demon, I'd have saved the demon reveal and entrance for next week for the bigger pop

Have him come out as normal and promo to build the anticipation for the demon, or at most continue the video packages that tease the demon without showing too much

One thing I did like, and that I think should continue, is that the demon no sells a lot of offence from Rollins, I'm in two minds about it but there's a bit of me likes the idea of having Balor going over next week in a glorified squash match because the demon has so much power

I don't think that it would hurt Rollins long term and would even build more story to his character to a point where Rollins rebuilds and reclaims while turning face and getting crowd sympathy, lengthening the storyline between the two and potentially opening up both a heel turn for Balor as the demon takes over his character and The Club having an opportunity to build and establish as a top level stable

Build the anticipation, have a slow burn, think about Sting vs Hogan/nWo and the 18 month build but don't have a terrible payoff”

That sound very good indeed. They need to make the demon mean something character wise beyond being a silly dress-up. I like the idea for that long time storyline because it develops two characters at once and could go all the way to Wrestlemania. Unfortunately, it's not likely to happen. Long-at term story development isn't a priority in a company that doesn't seem to know what's happening on a week to week basis and that can't even book a go home show let alone a major story arc.

Originally Posted by CardioCortez:
“I think Slater absolutely nailed his promo with Heyman/Lesnar.”

He's been excellent. I think they should transition him into a more serious character and play up the fighting for his family angle. Then build it up to him finally getting a win, maybe even for the US title and you've got a new midcard babyface. There's so much scope to make more out of these talented but underused guys now.
Lee_Smith2
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“He's been excellent. I think they should transition him into a more serious character and play up the fighting for his family angle. Then build it up to him finally getting a win, maybe even for the US title and you've got a new midcard babyface. There's so much scope to make more out of these talented but underused guys now.”

I've often found it absurd that the likes of Heath Slater, Damien Sandow and even Tyler Breeze have been treated like 1980s jobbers on even one occasion. Since 2001, this company has had such an athletic roster. Duds like Mason Ryan an David Ottunga are the exception rather than the norm. Yet they've squandered so many acts to 50/50 booking on C shows and squash matches on Raw. All because slowburn storytelling belongs to wrasslin' and old school entertainment, and Vince doesn't believe fans care or remember win/loss. Though if they really believed that the likes of Cena, Reigns and Lesnar wouldn't have been handled so carefully.

The matches thrown away on something like Main Event and even a competen yet bland wrestler like Bo Dallas or Fandango should mean a lot more than they do to the product.
FMKK
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lee_Smith2:
“I've often found it absurd that the likes of Heath Slater, Damien Sandow and even Tyler Breeze have been treated like 1980s jobbers on even one occasion. Since 2001, this company has had such an athletic roster. Duds like Mason Ryan an David Ottunga are the exception rather than the norm. Yet they've squandered so many acts to 50/50 booking on C shows and squash matches on Raw. All because slowburn storytelling belongs to wrasslin' and old school entertainment, and Vince doesn't believe fans care or remember win/loss. Though if they really believed that the likes of Cena, Reigns and Lesnar wouldn't have been handled so carefully.

The matches thrown away on something like Main Event and even a competen yet bland wrestler like Bo Dallas or Fandango should mean a lot more than they do to the product.”

Agreed. No one on the roster should be meaningless. Even if someone isn't necessarily a great worker (and I have serious reservations about what is now generally considered to make someone a great worker), they can be utilised. The whole point of booking is that you can use it to get around someone's weaknesses. Now that they seem willing to use jobbers again, there's no need for throwaway matches with those guys. Let them actually have feuds and characters too. It's amazing given the amount of TV time they have how poorly fleshed out so many of the characters are.
COTTONHEAT
16-08-2016
Are they going to give Becky Lynch this Gimmick ??
http://www.sportskeeda.com/wwe/wwe-r...or-becky-lynch
PandaPawPaw
16-08-2016
I'm glad Ibushi turned down a WWE contract. He would of been good in NXT but would of gotten the Nevile treatment on the main roster and forgotten about.

Also what's with bellend Steph going from face/heel pretty much every second. She's giving Big Show a run for his money.
James Frederick
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by COTTONHEAT:
“Are they going to give Becky Lynch this Gimmick ??
http://www.sportskeeda.com/wwe/wwe-r...or-becky-lynch”

If they want to bring a LGBT+ character in why not use Darren Young who is gay.

I just don't trust WWE to do it right and that is not to mention certain fans and groups.
AceMcCloud
17-08-2016
Anybody up?
James Frederick
17-08-2016
Yeah.
AceMcCloud
17-08-2016
What's your thoughts, think Orton has a chance?
James Frederick
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by AceMcCloud:
“What's your thoughts, think Orton has a chance?”

He'll lose to Brock.


That was good the way the Apple landed that couldn't have been planned.
James Frederick
17-08-2016
Plus was that a Carlito hint?
lionsof66
17-08-2016
Thought Orton was hinting at a Carlito return then.
AceMcCloud
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“He'll lose to Brock.


That was good the way the Apple landed that couldn't have been planned.”

I'm actually starting to like Heath Slater through this angle
AceMcCloud
17-08-2016
So everyone is just going to ignore that Ziggler has already been the world champ then
hazydayz
17-08-2016
You shouldn't believe online rumours but how good would it be if it was true. 'Oi, me names Becky and I'm the Lass Licker' lol.
lionsof66
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by hazydayz:
“You shouldn't believe online rumours but how good would it be if it was true. 'Oi, me names Becky and I'm the Lass Licker' lol.”

Best hazy post ever
AJ Wheels
17-08-2016
KICK YOUR HEAD RIGHT OFF YOUR FACE

well thats a new one. Love ya Dolph but wow..
AceMcCloud
17-08-2016
The Smackdown tag division is ridiculously weak
James Frederick
17-08-2016
12 man tag where the heels may as well be called Jobbers R Us
James Frederick
17-08-2016
What the hell was that.
AceMcCloud
17-08-2016
Damn that's a cool entrance
FMKK
17-08-2016
Naomi's entrance was, ahem....amazing.

Love is Eva Marie gimmick too.
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