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World Wrestling Entertainment Discussion 42 (Spoilers)
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Lee_Smith2
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“Bischoff has never denied it either, nor anybody who worked for WCW. It works both ways.”

Analysts via CNN claimed it had lost 80 mil and AOL Time Warner mentioned it in one of their financial reports as underperforming. I'd be amazed if they didn't lose a significant amount because the roster was still huge in 2000. The salary list has been seen and it was crazy. You only have to watch back the shows to see the audience shrinking. The production values dropped too around that time. There were loads of planned live events dropped. The ratings decline back then is obviously genuine - I'm guessing TBS and TNT sold ad rates at a higher rate based off a much higher number.

Edit: losing 60- 80 could be spun in many ways, however. That amount could account for potentially lost profits as the drop was so steep. Losing a 1/4 or 1/2 of PPVs and ratings, respectively, should still have kept them profitable. Only they were expected to earn way more at even the most pessimistic forecast.
JCR
17-06-2016
It's a shame, because many of the earlier (well largely the pre Hogan ones, but some in 96 as well) WCW ppvs are very good shows, but the booking was insane in 2000, I saw this posted the other week- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9sqTLR16-I
FMKK
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“What so wrestling fans cant have a passion and be ingrossed in the storylines? There used to be a time when Hunter was World champ and he'd do something and fans would be right cheesed off and vent their disapointment on the message boards with frustration.

But no these days you say something and someone will jump on the post saying its not real. I guess people cant show passion these days.”

They can but I think getting genuinely angry over a run of the mill Smackdown heel angle is a bit sad.
dave_windows
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“They can but I think getting genuinely angry over a run of the mill Smackdown heel angle is a bit sad.”

People used to.
The_don1
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“People used to.”

People used to do many things they don't do now

Should we go back to those things as well?
dave_windows
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by JCR:
“It's a shame, because many of the earlier (well largely the pre Hogan ones, but some in 96 as well) WCW ppvs are very good shows, but the booking was insane in 2000, I saw this posted the other week- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9sqTLR16-I”

I absolutely adored WCW back then as had been watching since mid 91 from when they did the Luger/Simmons angle.

However I absolutely hated the year 2000, I didnt like where the booking went and this Natural Born Killers I mean Thrillers to me just killed the ratings the amount of TV time they got.

I enjoyed all of 1999 and to a extent the first 3 months of 2000 but after that it wasent the same how it was. I suppose a part of that could have been losing 4 great talents in January when they went to Raw, Hall & Nash seemed to have lesser and lesser air time and a few of the Cruiserweights were gone.

When they got to late 2000 with the overratted Big Poppa Pump world title run I think I was only watching because I felt I had to because of it being wrestling. I know people always say no one is forcing you to watch a wrestling company and that may be true but when you ve watched something religiously every week for the past decade its hard to break the habbit.

You sometimes feel you have to watch incase something went down you wish'ed you'd have seen. Back then the internet wasent as big in the UK as it is now so its not like you could rewatch the entire show. Either you saw it or missed out.
whedon247
17-06-2016
wcw late 99 and 2000 were brilliant from entertainment standpoint.

but alot of people on here think headlocks are entertaining so will not agree
dave_windows
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“wcw late 99 and 2000 were brilliant from entertainment standpoint.

but alot of people on here think headlocks are entertaining so will not agree”

Nobody thought that restlock Triple H/Jeff Jarrett did at Capital Carnage was entertaining whatsoever given the amount of time they milked that hold.

Didnt they milk it for something like 8 - 12 mins?
JCR
17-06-2016
Jarry Lawler arrested for domestic violence- http://wreg.com/2016/06/17/wrestler-...wler-arrested/

66 and engaged to a 27 year old!
hufflestuff
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by JCR:
“Jarry Lawler arrested for domestic violence- http://wreg.com/2016/06/17/wrestler-...wler-arrested/

66 and engaged to a 27 year old!”

When Adam Rose was arrested for this the company suspended him and stated that they have a zero tolerance stance on such things. I wonder if they'll release him now?
hazydayz
17-06-2016
Adam Rose has shaved his head bald and will be on Vince Russo's podcast next week. It will be interesting to see how WWE handle this over the weekend before Adam Rose gives his full account of everything with WWE to Russo.
DanielF
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by JCR:
“Jarry Lawler arrested for domestic violence- http://wreg.com/2016/06/17/wrestler-...wler-arrested/

66 and engaged to a 27 year old!”

WWE statement:

MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Jerry Lawler was arrested at his home Friday morning by the Shelby County Sheriff’s Office in Memphis, Tenn.

According to a police report, Lawler and his girlfriend, Lauryn McBride, were taken into custody and booked on alleged charges of domestic assault—bodily harm, a misdemeanor.

WWE has zero tolerance for matters involving domestic violence, and per our policy, Jerry Lawler has been suspended indefinitely following his arrest.
Central cake
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by DanielF:
“WWE statement:

MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Jerry Lawler was arrested at his home Friday morning by the Shelby County Sheriff’s Office in Memphis, Tenn.

According to a police report, Lawler and his girlfriend, Lauryn McBride, were taken into custody and booked on alleged charges of domestic assault—bodily harm, a misdemeanor.

WWE has zero tolerance for matters involving domestic violence, and per our policy, Jerry Lawler has been suspended indefinitely following his arrest.”

Fired then
James Frederick
17-06-2016
Glad to see him suspended and likely fired.
cris182
17-06-2016
I am actually amazed they have suspended Lawler, I assumed they would find a way around it. Of course if charges are dropped then he can be straight back on TV and nothing comes of it

The fact they actually stuck to their own policy is something though
cris182
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“What so wrestling fans cant have a passion and be ingrossed in the storylines? There used to be a time when Hunter was World champ and he'd do something and fans would be right cheesed off and vent their disapointment on the message boards with frustration.

But no these days you say something and someone will jump on the post saying its not real. I guess people cant show passion these days.”

Were they angry at HHH though or the way he was presented? There is a big difference. You want someone to pull Rusevs hair for something his character is scripted to do, Others are glad someone is being given a bit of a character to dislike and there will be a payoff to that
stu64
17-06-2016
Thank God Lawler has gone, I hate him and I won't miss him one bit. Now just need half the creative team to be fired and Ric Flair to do something stupid and all will be slightly better
dazc
17-06-2016
Watched nxt earlier the fin and nakurma promo was amazing looking forward to Brooklyn
COTTONHEAT
17-06-2016
hope Corey Graves gets the job on Smackdown
stu64
17-06-2016
Lawler was at a PPV event the night he was arrested...the event was called Night in the Slammer, guess that was a sign.
JCR
18-06-2016
Lesnar is using his WWE theme at UFC 200 and not Enter Sandman per twitter.

Interesting to see if UFC let Heyman walk to the cage with him, though I suspect that maybe pushing it.
dave_windows
18-06-2016
Originally Posted by cris182:
“Were they angry at HHH though or the way he was presented? There is a big difference. You want someone to pull Rusevs hair for something his character is scripted to do, Others are glad someone is being given a bit of a character to dislike and there will be a payoff to that”

To be honest I hated his character last time he had the US belt and it was such a relief when Cena pretty much destroyed him on Raw to get his match at Mania against him.

But the character comes off as a big bully. Not really sure we should have characters like that on TV these days.
Mmmbop
18-06-2016
You know what I really like? 6-man tag team matches between all the all the MITB match participants. Been so lucky to see 47 of them the past few weeks.

Really not got in to the build up of MITB, some of the past few Raws have been dreadful. Though the card is great. And if Bray Wyatt comes away with the briefcase I'll let them off for those god awful Raws. Still think we're gonna get a 7th man, either Wyatt or Orton.
stu64
18-06-2016
Good to see the woman's division is back to shit again. Why have a brand new belt if they don't have it being defended on a big PPV event? Instead they just get a shitty tag team match, not even a singles match.

Why not add a ladders match or something similar for a MITB match for the women's belt? Guess that would mean creative actually need to think of more than one storyline at a time then for the women.
Sinister2010
18-06-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“To be honest I hated his character last time he had the US belt and it was such a relief when Cena pretty much destroyed him on Raw to get his match at Mania against him.

But the character comes off as a big bully. Not really sure we should have characters like that on TV these days.”

Jesus what do you want Rusev to do hug and kiss everyone? It's all part of his character stop taking it too seriously mate.
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