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World Wrestling Entertainment Discussion 42 (Spoilers)
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COTTONHEAT
22-08-2016
I would have had triple H come out to the ring instead of Shane
Harris_07
22-08-2016
I've read the results but only seen Orton/Lesnar for now. Disappointed with the main event. Brock's part of the match was mainly Suplex City while Orton - who did his usual big moves - was actually the more interesting part of the match. Bored of Suplex City. Shame how the match ended. I'm hoping it was meant to end like that and Orton isn't legit hurt. I can't help being interested in Lesnar's next opponent. Even though I'm sure it'll be Suplex City all over again, he's such a brutal force that I can't help being enticed by him.

The other big results were hit and miss for me:

- Charlotte winning the title again so soon makes me think that they might be giving her multiple title reigns so she matches (or beats) her dad. I can imagine Charlotte being at least a 10-time Women's champion by the time she retires.

- AJ beating John Cena was the right decision. Cena doesn't lose much, while AJ gains some much needed momentum. Hopefully this will take AJ to the WWE Title where he goes on to win it. AJ is WWE Title material and I can easily picture him as champion. Really hope they don't turn him into a chickenshit heel once he actually wins the title.

- Ambrose beating Zigger was not a surprise. They had a good build up for the match. As I said above, with AJ hopefully in the World Title picture soon, Ambrose and AJ should have a good feud and series of matches together. Out of the top 5 matches, this is the one I am least looking forward to. Both Ambrose and Ziggler don't seem likely to produce anything new for a PPV match. I could be wrong, but I'm picturing a match of the same of old stuff between the two with some near falls.

- Finn Balor winning shocked me. I didn't expect the first WWE Universal champion to be someone who debuted on the roster so recently. I don't particularly mind Finn as champion, it just came as a bit of a surprise. I thought they'd have Rollins win to become the first ever Universal champion to go alongside him being the first NXT champion. He's a great heel champion and I thought that it'd be more interesting to see Balor chase the title for a while before winning it at Survivor Series. This is the match I'm looking forward to the most.

I realise it's a bit weird giving opinions on just match results but that's what I took from the PPV results on paper. I won't have time to watch SummerSlam tonight due to my EastEnders duties and I'll be watching The Godfather (for the first time). So I'll probably give my take on the other matches tomorrow night or Wednesday night.

Stay tuned.
COTTONHEAT
22-08-2016
I thought Mauro Ranello did a great job calling the main event
dave_windows
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by richie4eva:
“Booooooooooooo Reigns ”

Boooooooo Richie!
dave_windows
22-08-2016
Summerslam was ok I wouldnt call it a must see PPV of the year given how shit the main event was.

I didnt see the beginning of the preshow so cant comment on the big 12 man tag match. The Dudleyz match was kinda expected alough why Zayn was on the Preshow Ive no idea they could have come up with something better.

Cesaro/Sheamus was alright nothing special but wondered if the reason Cesaro jobbed was those comments he made. He is a decent wrestler but they are booking him the wrong way, no wonder he is frustrated.

The tag match I do feel should have gone the other way around, why have two single wrestlers beat a regular tag team given how much hype WWE bigged up on Enzo/Cass when they moved to the main roster.

Womens title, typical Vince put the belt on bloody Charlotte again, Fans want a change not this same old shit with overratted Charlotte again.

Crews/Miz really didnt make alot of sense because Crews is supposed to be the newcomer and he doesnt win the title at a big show like Summerslam? Maybe he should have stayed on NXT.

AJ/Cena Part 2 this one was a great match and very enjoyable and was good to see Styles go over cleanly.

Tag title match I expected to be better than it was, not sure why they called a DQ when Big E is in the New day anyway.

The WWE title was very underwhelming, I did want to see a better match no idea why this wasent the main event given its the WWE Title.

6 Diva match was probably a piss break but why is Nikki on the Heels side?

Rollins/Balor was the best match of the night, a great match.

Reigns/Rusev was completely a waste of time, you do the match on free TV and then when fans pay to see the match on a PPV you dont even do the match?

Main Event I expected better, a bloody stupid finish why not just go to a proper finish, I know I dont like Orton but Christ Brock just came off as a complete w***** in that match. Would have been much better if Goldberg just came out and speared Brock or Taker tombstoned.

I know Brocks only in it for the money but it really bugs me how he just slaughters everyone, but because hes big and a legit UFC guy they keep protecting his image. It just comes across Brock a smug asshole but no one would wipe that smug look off his face because hes legit tough.

The nearest we d ever come to beating brock would be boot the TV screen.

But again dont know why WWE did the blood angle, either end the match with a RKO or F5. I wouldnt recommend Summerslam this year to anyone given how shit the ending was.
gerry d
22-08-2016
A tweet from Seth Rollins

More important than a title's appearance is what it represents for the men fighting over it. You really let me down tonight, Brooklyn.
FMKK
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by gerry d:
“A tweet from Seth Rollins

More important than a title's appearance is what it represents for the men fighting over it. You really let me down tonight, Brooklyn.”

He's someone who benefits from crowds not cheering how they're supposed to cheer so boo hoo.
James Frederick
22-08-2016
Kinda admitting himself it looks crap though.
BFGArmy
22-08-2016
Have to say SD really is looking weak now. Orton will have to off TV for a few weeks, Cena will have to be written off screen for a while, ADR is suspended.

They barely had much depth to begin with - now it's virtually non-existent. Goodness help them if the suspension rumours are anywhere near accurate.

It all makes the booking of the WWE Title match last night even more odd. Surely Ziggler must have been suspended? But that still doesn't explain the way Ambrose was booked.

Any first-time viewer last night (yes I get you wouldn't get many on the Network) would've assumed Ambrose was a heel and AJ a beloved babyface.

Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“Kinda admitting himself it looks crap though.”

To be fair anyone with eyes and ears would agree that the title name and design are awful.

At least I now know what the crowd were chanting about.
eljmayes
22-08-2016
Will Sky carry the additional 7 brand specific PPVs on Box Office?
Ben_W
22-08-2016
Don't think so, pretty sure Backlash is exclusive to the wwe network so I guess it'll be the same for the rest
hazydayz
22-08-2016
The only way to really get anything out of Lesnar is to let the wrestlers take a proper fight to him and have him look vulernable, which they could do with Orton, they could make him have a huge comeback and he ends up beating Lesnar and it's full of gimmicks.


The WWE is in a weird place because they give you so many cold matches. Just matches for the sake of it and usually the whole point of a match is I'M A BETTER WRESTLER! I WANT THIS BELT! Which is not creative at all and because the rest of the show is filled with just plain wrestling matches where the result means nothing, they can't have a plain wrestling match with Lesnar and have him lose because it's just not believable, it's not believable anyway but it would be pushing it just too much to think that a wrestler is gonna pin him clean. Really that's when you notice the difference between wrestling now and wrestling prior, wrestling should be trashy, they should be fighting on tables and using chairs and fighting in the crowd, it's that kind of wrestling match that WILL make Randy Orton or any wrestler beating Lesnar believable. That's what they would need to do in order to pin him now. He's Brock Lesnar from the UFC, he's not the old Brock Lesnar the wrestler.

And obviously many fans are against blading as are WWE, well again that's what happens now when you want blood, someone has to get hurt for real and clearly many fans and the WWE themselves would rather Randy Orton gets hurt for real rather than just have him take aspirin that day and let him make a small cut on his head.

And I could make a similar point with all the botches in the women's matches and the high spots in the mid cards. People getting hurt for no reason, putting themselves in situations where they can be hurt for no reason at all, it's not needed, it's not selling any extra tickets, the people have already paid to see it but they keep getting hurt and will end up retiring early. I don't know where all these young wrestlers are learning to wrestle or who's teaching them but clearly they don't seem to understand that it's meant to be a work. You're not supposed to hurt yourself. And people are talking about the Sasha Banks injury if it is indeed an injury, I agree with Vince Russo this morning, there's nothing of these women, they're 5 feet. There's no one there backstage telling her not to do those kinds of moves, no one telling Charlotte no, when they land on the mat they really are landing on the mat, it's not like a big muscular man that's got some cushioning, these women are inches away from ending up in a wheelchair and for what? A wrestling match? Why is no one backstage protecting these wrestlers from themselves? Same thing happened with Seth and Sting. No one stepped in to say no, no one there to protect Sting and Rollins doesn't have the common sense to know when something is too much for a 50 year old man. Just insanity.
eljmayes
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ben_W:
“Don't think so, pretty sure Backlash is exclusive to the wwe network so I guess it'll be the same for the rest”

That does cause Sky an issue with Raw/Smackdown hyping shows that are on the Network for recorded broadcast on Sky Sports, will they edit out whole segments or keep them in?

Sky already edit out all mentions of the WWE Network on their recorded broadcasts.
BFGArmy
22-08-2016
Unconfirmed rumours at the moment that Balor was seen leaving Summeslam with his arm in a sling and could possible require surgery on it.

Really hope that's not true.
PandaPawPaw
22-08-2016
OK carrying on from where I left on.

Ziggs/Ambrose, OK match but wasn't fussed about it. Ziggs HBK tribute act needs to stop. Heck even HBK himself said he needs to stop with that shit.

Didn't care for the ladies tag match. Like how they handled Eva's absence and Naomi's entrance is cool. Nice to see Nikki making her come back!

Balor/Rollins: Belt looks horrible! So so lazy!

Balor's entrance is dumb as **** but liked his body/face paint design. He really needs to have some separation between Balor and the Demon King but I've said that enough times and I'm bored of saying it now. Rollins needs some decent attire.

The match itself was average but then the build up was shit so I wasn't expecting much. If you're going to be a Demon King then act like one and not like someone who just likes to play with paint.

I only like Balor as a heel. He sucks as a face.

The Great Muta had amazing entrances and they were simple. Balor should take note.

Rusev/Reigns. Meh. Did they over run or something? I do love Reigns running spear though.

Lesnar/Orton: I've really gone off Lesnar. Typical Lesnar match and such a waste and it was just over a 10min match. WTF! I hate the Suplex city shite! Lesnar doesn't wrestle anymore. He just does that shit now.

Heyman/Lesnar are stale.

Mauro really got on my nerves during this PPV. He's constantly going OTT over every move or action. I felt like telling him to STFU! I like his passion but he over does it to the point of making me want to mute the sound.

Wrestlers also need to stop looking at the ref when being pinned. It really spoils it.

Finishers are over used and really spoil matches. There's little tension in matches these days as I never expect a finisher to be just that.

OK PPV. Looked good on paper but turned out to be nothing special and preferred Takeover. Also Asuka is the best female wrestler in the WWE.

Also I don't like seeing DB and Shane joined at the hip. They look odd together all the time as if Shane's walking his dog or something.
Hollie_Louise
22-08-2016
Lots of talk about that Lesnar/Orton match. It looked like Orton was dead weight for most of the suplexes and really wasn't into having a Suplex match which I can understand. First PPV match back after a year and he walks back to get made to look like nothing so Lesnar's Suplex City can drone on. Also that DDT from the ropes looked harder than it has in a while.

Did anybody actually see the blading?
PandaPawPaw
22-08-2016
Oh BTW the best thing from last night was seeing Doraemon and Mario together in the 2020 Toyko Olympic promo.
PandaPawPaw
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“Lots of talk about that Lesnar/Orton match. It looked like Orton was dead weight for most of the suplexes and really wasn't into having a Suplex match which I can understand. First PPV match back after a year and he walks back to get made to look like nothing so Lesnar's Suplex City can drone on. Also that DDT from the ropes looked harder than it has in a while.

Did anybody actually see the blading?”

I don't get why people are getting all bent up over it. Lesnar did the same at Extreme Rules 2012 against Cena.

It's just to make Lesnar look like a beast.

Extreme Rules 2012 Elbow.
Hollie_Louise
22-08-2016
Because as you said, it's boring. You just said it, he did the same in 2012 and he's done it in 2013 and 2014 and 2015. Orton came back and already looks weak because nobody is allowed to have a competitive match with him and instead is expected to be suplexed 40 times and roll over.

I'm not as bothered by the finish as some were but I'm over watching Suplex City every time Lesnar shows up. It worked with Cena because Cena is dominant and it was a shock and now it's same old same old and I can see why the people there are bored of working him
PandaPawPaw
22-08-2016
I was just talking about how some peeps are acting like something major happened regarding the ending like Lesnar was legit pissed or something when it was just part of the match not whether he is boring or not (which he is).

It's amazing how some fans will find some sort of story out of anything. Bunch of gossips.

Also Orton lost the match due to a failed Wellness test. How do I know? Well a friend of a friend of a friend told me so it must be true.
BFGArmy
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“Because as you said, it's boring. You just said it, he did the same in 2012 and he's done it in 2013 and 2014 and 2015. Orton came back and already looks weak because nobody is allowed to have a competitive match with him and instead is expected to be suplexed 40 times and roll over.

I'm not as bothered by the finish as some were but I'm over watching Suplex City every time Lesnar shows up. It worked with Cena because Cena is dominant and it was a shock and now it's same old same old and I can see why the people there are bored of working him”

Indeed it's getting stale but until the crowd stop chanting for it it won't happen.

Plus the longer this booking goes on the worse it gets - we keep talking about the 'rub' but if Brock keeps having matches like this then it seems frankly ludicrous for anyone to beat him more than anything i.e. If he can kick out of X number of finishers, it seems ludicrous for him to be beaten by a Helluva kick so if say Zayn (as an example here) were to defeat him rather than it being seen as a proper big win, it's just seen as ludicrous.

I thought Orton looked relatively strong compared to how other superstars have been portrayed v Lesnar though to be fair.

To be clear while I think Lesnar much for his match booking. If a company is happy enough to pay you millions just to do a few suplexes every few months, why do any more than that?

I think what made the ending worse was that it was the main event so it all felt very flat and anticlimatic to end the PPV. In fact both the last two matches felt a bit like that. Based on the booking of the matches they really should've had one of AJ/Cena or Rollins/Balor main-eventing.
BFGArmy
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by PandaPawPaw:
“Oh BTW the best thing from last night was seeing Doraemon and Mario together in the 2020 Toyko Olympic promo. ”

Yep I saw the Japanese PM dressed as Mario. Shortly after AJ beat Cena clean too. I was beginning to wonder if I'd lost the plot.

Also, while I think everyone likes Mauro I do think he gets away with a lot. He often seems to speak in catchphrases and quite awful pop culture references and 'Mamma Mia' seems to be his version of Cole's 'OH MY'.
Hollie_Louise
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“Indeed it's getting stale but until the crowd stop chanting for it it won't happen.

Plus the longer this booking goes on the worse it gets - we keep talking about the 'rub' but if Brock keeps having matches like this then it seems frankly ludicrous for anyone to beat him more than anything i.e. If he can kick out of X number of finishers, it seems ludicrous for him to be beaten by a Helluva kick so if say Zayn (as an example here) were to defeat him rather than it being seen as a proper big win, it's just seen as ludicrous.

I thought Orton looked relatively strong compared to how other superstars have been portrayed v Lesnar though to be fair.

I think what made the ending worse was that it was the main event so it all felt very flat and anticlimatic to end the PPV. In fact both the last two matches felt a bit like that. Based on the booking of the matches they really should've had one of AJ/Cena or Rollins/Balor main-eventing.”

I can barely remember any offence from Orton beside the DDT and the RKO.
brb
22-08-2016
Predicting it will be Strowman to down Lesnar. Doesn't seem like there is anyone, realistically, other than Strowman, giving the direction they're pushing him.
BFGArmy
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“I can barely remember any offence from Orton beside the DDT and the RKO.”

I remember 2 RKOs and that's still more than some opponents.
And remember zero offence is some offence (obscure Simpsons reference)

Originally Posted by brb:
“Predicting it will be Strowman to down Lesnar. Doesn't seem like there is anyone, realistically, other than Strowman, giving the direction they're pushing him.”

In the words of Mauro Ranello, 'Mamma Mia' if that happens. Talk about a name nobody would want.

That said the way they've booked Lesnar sort of demands it's a 'Goldilocks' superstar who beats Lesnar - a superstar everyone agrees is right to end Lesnar's dominance and who realistically can. And sadly not sure that superstar is obvious.
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