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World Wrestling Entertainment Discussion 42 (Spoilers)
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brb
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“I remember 2 RKOs and that's still more than some opponents.
And remember zero offence is some



In the words of Mauro Ranello, 'Mamma Mia' if that happens. Talk about a name nobody would want.

That said the way they've booked Lesnar sort of demands it's a 'Goldilocks' superstar who beats Lesnar - a superstar everyone agrees is right to end Lesnar's dominance and who realistically can. And sadly not sure that superstar is obvious.”

But with the way they've sold Lesnar there isn't anyone realistically now on the roster who can take down Lesnar. The way they are pushing Strowman (whether or not he is the right choice) would make him pretty much the only realistic option at this point.
BFGArmy
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by brb:
“But with the way they've sold Lesnar there isn't anyone realistically now on the roster who can take down Lesnar. The way they are pushing Strowman (whether or not he is the right choice) would make him pretty much the only realistic option at this point.”

Indeed but it's a pretty awful option all the same.

The more I think about it the more Ambrose really should have defeated Lesnar at Mania - especially as Ambrose hasn't lost on PPV since and a No DQ loss wouldn't have destroyed Lesnar. They could've said too that that match was the cause of Ambrose's improved win-loss record.
Hollie_Louise
22-08-2016
So Sasha is reported to be dealing with a lower back injury and is going for an evaluation in early September which explains the live event removals
FMKK
22-08-2016
The bloom is clearly off the rose with Lesnar. I understand keeping him strong to give someone the big rub after all they've invested in him but they've gone about six months too far with it now. In retrospect, I think Roman should have beaten him at WrestleMania 31 or even at a rematch this year. He was the one who was closest to having him rocked in that amazing match (my favourite WWE match of 2015) and he's the only current high profile star who would look believable in beating him and would stand to gain from it. Unless they decide to push either Rusev or Cesaro to the top but let's face it, that ain't happening.

The only other serious options I can think of are Samoa Joe or Shinsuke Nakamura.
dazc
22-08-2016
Summerslam was OK show styles vs cena was a great match as was balor vs Rollins happy balor won and don't get why people moaning that balor won he was a star in the making now on to raw tonight where hope to see Bayley and joe
CardioCortez
22-08-2016
The suplexes were lower to protect Orton's neck/shoulders.

There's no way Brock was annoyed and intentionally hit Orton as a result. WWE had the best person possible for talking Brock out of it stood ringside. Once Orton is busted open, Heyman jumps straight in from a booking stand point and tells Brock to do the punches for extra heat and look even more like a beast.

You may not like his suplex city thing but that's his selling point and as long as people are buying merch, they'll push it. Heyman is probably part of thinking behind using it. Purely from a commercial stand point.
JCR
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by CardioCortez:
“The suplexes were lower to protect Orton's neck/shoulders.

There's no way Brock was annoyed and intentionally hit Orton as a result. WWE had the best person possible for talking Brock out of it stood ringside. Once Orton is busted open, Heyman jumps straight in from a booking stand point and tells Brock to do the punches for extra heat and look even more like a beast.

You may not like his suplex city thing but that's his selling point and as long as people are buying merch, they'll push it. Heyman is probably part of thinking behind using it. Purely from a commercial stand point.”

It was just a way to 'suspend' Bork until the build to next years Wrestlemania starts methinks
vampirek
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by JCR:
“It was just a way to 'suspend' Bork until the build to next years Wrestlemania starts methinks”

Well until either Survivor Series or the Royal Rumble. However as to who will be the one to stop the one there is little options out there. It makes little sense dragging out an aging Goldberg and pointless it being The Rock, although at least it is a credible threat.

Strowman is the likely option but long term I dont think he'll make it he just seems bland and the likes of Samoe Joe wont add anything long term.

Ill put the name of Big Cass into rhe frame, whilst nowhere near that level theres pretty of potential that in two or three years time he could look like a true threat.
FMKK
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by vampirek:
“Well until either Survivor Series or the Royal Rumble. However as to who will be the one to stop the one there is little options out there. It makes little sense dragging out an aging Goldberg and pointless it being The Rock, although at least it is a credible threat.

Strowman is the likely option but long term I dont think he'll make it he just seems bland and the likes of Samoe Joe wont add anything long term.

Ill put the name of Big Cass into rhe frame, whilst nowhere near that level theres pretty of potential that in two or three years time he could look like a true threat.”

The value of Joe would be that you transfer the rub onto him and he would be around more frequently.

I would just do a Reigns rematch and have Roman win tbh.
Dandem
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by brb:
“Predicting it will be Strowman to down Lesnar. Doesn't seem like there is anyone, realistically, other than Strowman, giving the direction they're pushing him.”

And that would be a huge waste, because Braun Strownman is the kind of guy that'll never be over. For me, he's not better than the Gene Snitsky's and Mike Knox's that used to bore me in the mid 2000s.
BFGArmy
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“The bloom is clearly off the rose with Lesnar. I understand keeping him strong to give someone the big rub after all they've invested in him but they've gone about six months too far with it now. In retrospect, I think Roman should have beaten him at WrestleMania 31 or even at a rematch this year. He was the one who was closest to having him rocked in that amazing match (my favourite WWE match of 2015) and he's the only current high profile star who would look believable in beating him and would stand to gain from it. Unless they decide to push either Rusev or Cesaro to the top but let's face it, that ain't happening.

The only other serious options I can think of are Samoa Joe or Shinsuke Nakamura.”

The only problem with Reigns is that the crowd wouldn't have accepted it. So much so that WWE blinked first in the build to Mania 31 - the ending to that show was clearly not what they'd originally planned. And thank goodness they blinked first - it was a magnificent ending.

I can see Brock being pinned some point in the future but probably only in a triple threat or something similar. WWE have got to it to the stage now where the booking makes it seem impossible for him to lose in a singles match clean.

To throw the cat amongst the pigeons, in my view AJ Styles should be the one to defeat Brock. He'd be a relatively popular choice with fans and he's pinned Cena clean so in WWE terms he's half way there. And because he used to be in TNA the chances of him being the one to pin Brock are so remote that it just might happen.

I mean it;s a suggestion full of faults but it's not as if there are loads of compelling options around. And in a triple threat him pinning Brock would be just about believable

It really shouldn't be either Strowman or Cass - the fact they are tall really doesn't justify the push of defeating Brock. Both are still miles off being ready for that. If WWE insist it has to be a big man then just do Big E for goodness sake.
gerry d
22-08-2016
D-Von Dudley posted the following on Twitter

One year ago we came back to the @WWE and to the @WWEUniverse . now it's time to say goodbye tonight on raw
PandaPawPaw
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by gerry d:
“D-Von Dudley posted the following on Twitter

One year ago we came back to the @WWE and to the @WWEUniverse . now it's time to say goodbye tonight on raw”

They won't be missed. Bye.



Del Rio's got a lot of shit going on.

*Cough*Paige the home wrecker*Cough*

The Bullet Club takeover is almost complete.
Sinister2010
22-08-2016
Thought Summerslam was ok with some strange results which seems to be the norm with WWE PPVs in 2016 having Charlotte win the women's title again was a strange decision the match didn't really live up to the hype although in all fairness it was hard to top their match on Raw such a shame that Sashas reign only lasted 3 weeks the ending was crap speaking of crap endings that leads me to Lesnar/Orton I don't know what Brock has in his forearm but it did a lot of damage to Randy bloody hell Brock really doesn't know his own strength. Also are New Day ever gonna lose the tag team titles? I am so fed up off their reign and I am just fed up of New Day. On a positive note I enjoyed the Cena/Styles and Seth/Finn matches.
CardioCortez
22-08-2016
I think they're splitting up (not leaving).
PandaPawPaw
22-08-2016
Those forearms/elbows were intentional.
brb
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by gerry d:
“D-Von Dudley posted the following on Twitter

One year ago we came back to the @WWE and to the @WWEUniverse . now it's time to say goodbye tonight on raw”

& Bubba Ray just tweeted:
Thanks for a great year @WWE and @WWEUniverse. Its time. See you on #RAW and see ya down the road. 👍🤓
Sinister2010
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by PandaPawPaw:
“They won't be missed. Bye.



Del Rio's got a lot of shit going on.

*Cough*Paige the home wrecker*Cough*

The Bullet Club takeover is almost complete.
”

Oooh could Del Rio be doing a Ryan Lochte? Either way someone's telling porkeys. Paige home wrecker? Never chances are she might be (allegedly) too stoned to do that sort of thing.
PandaPawPaw
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sinister2010:
“Oooh could Del Rio be doing a Ryan Lochte? Either way someone's telling porkeys. Paige home wrecker? Never chances are she might be (allegedly) too stoned to do that sort of thing.”

But was it at her house (whichever house she had at the time)?

Also spot the difference between the WHC, Woman's and Universal belts.

Such utter lazy shite.

Also never been a fan of customised belts (esp side plates). Looks tacky and makes the belts even more worthless.
Sinister2010
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by PandaPawPaw:
“Those forearms/elbows were intentional.”

Well if it was then Brock is a [expletive] idiot all the build up and hype to it and we had the match end the way it did cause Brock doesn't know his own [expletive] strength.
Sinister2010
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by PandaPawPaw:
“But was it at her house (whichever house she had at the time)?

Also spot the difference between the WHC, Woman's and Universal belts.

Such utter lazy shite.

Also never been a fan of customised belts (esp side plates). Looks tacky and makes the belts even more worthless.”

Well apparently everywhere seems to be Paiges house but she probably doesn't remember mmm I wonder why?

I'm not too fond of the WWE Universal title from a distance it looks like it's been made out of Raw meat no pun intended.
CardioCortez
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sinister2010:
“Thought Summerslam was ok with some strange results which seems to be the norm with WWE PPVs in 2016 having Charlotte win the women's title again was a strange decision the match didn't really live up to the hype although in all fairness it was hard to top their match on Raw such a shame that Sashas reign only lasted 3 weeks the ending was crap speaking of crap endings that leads me to Lesnar/Orton I don't know what Brock has in his forearm but it did a lot of damage to Randy bloody hell Brock really doesn't know his own strength. Also are New Day ever gonna lose the tag team titles? I am so fed up off their reign and I am just fed up of New Day. On a positive note I enjoyed the Cena/Styles and Seth/Finn matches.”

Sasha is injured. Hence, the change.
FMKK
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“The only problem with Reigns is that the crowd wouldn't have accepted it. So much so that WWE blinked first in the build to Mania 31 - the ending to that show was clearly not what they'd originally planned. And thank goodness they blinked first - it was a magnificent ending.

I can see Brock being pinned some point in the future but probably only in a triple threat or something similar. WWE have got to it to the stage now where the booking makes it seem impossible for him to lose in a singles match clean.

To throw the cat amongst the pigeons, in my view AJ Styles should be the one to defeat Brock. He'd be a relatively popular choice with fans and he's pinned Cena clean so in WWE terms he's half way there. And because he used to be in TNA the chances of him being the one to pin Brock are so remote that it just might happen.

I mean it;s a suggestion full of faults but it's not as if there are loads of compelling options around. And in a triple threat him pinning Brock would be just about believable

It really shouldn't be either Strowman or Cass - the fact they are tall really doesn't justify the push of defeating Brock. Both are still miles off being ready for that. If WWE insist it has to be a big man then just do Big E for goodness sake.”

That's fine. Put him over and turn him.

AJ Styles would be absolutely unbelievable against Brock. He's just too small and slight.

Omg, Big E would be a great idea! They need to push him as a top singles act anyway I think so if they aim to have him against Lesnar for Mania it would be amazing. But it'll just be something stupid like Brock vs ****ing Shane.

EDIT: Forgot to add how excited I am for Nikki Bella vs Becky Lynch.
James Frederick
22-08-2016
I think The Dudley's will split and feud rarther than retire just yet.

Then get back together next year just in time to be inducted in the HOF.
BFGArmy
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by CardioCortez:
“Sasha is injured. Hence, the change.”

I was genueinely worried for her safety at times in that match with Charlotte. She landed badly several times.

I've heard people mention too that the Shane appearance post-main event was on the fly which I sort of believe. Blood was pouring from Orton at a worrying rate.

The Sasha and Orton moments really were uncomfortable to watch at times.
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