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World Wrestling Entertainment Discussion 42 (Spoilers)
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CardioCortez
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“I was genueinely worried for her safety at times in that match with Charlotte. She landed badly several times.

I've heard people mention too that the Shane appearance post-main event was on the fly which I sort of believe. Blood was pouring from Orton at a worrying rate.

The Sasha and Orton moments really were uncomfortable to watch at times.”

The ropes didn't seem to be properly tightened last night.

During the pre show, Neville was wobbling all over when just standing on the top turnbuckle and when AJ hit the phenomenal forearm, the top rope nearly made contact with the second. They seemed too loose and may contribute to Charlotte almost slipping and subsequently dropped Sasha.
stu64
22-08-2016
That is 2 Summerslams in a row now that have ended on a very poor note and both involved Lesnar and neither were for the title.

As I said yesterday and others today, Suplex City has to go and if Brock does not want to do anything else then screw him. Not one person is bigger than the WWE, although it may seem it right now to ther other wrestlers. He can do what the hell he wants in the ring, including as little as possible and busting people open. He goes off script when he speaks, swears loads on Raw and at promotional events. Then add in the 2 failed tests over at the UFC.

The others on the roster must hate him now. Getting to main event last night in boring 10 min Suplex match, while they was 2 main World title matches on the card.

Also knew Goldberg would not show up, all down to them hyping WWE2K17 while trying to get people to think he would come down last night.

Lesnar is not scheduled to be at Raw tonight either, to much hard work
Lee_Smith2
22-08-2016
If they hadn't spent time booking talents such as Rusev, Cesaro and Big E to lose in televised filler matches every other week, they wouldn't have to rely on special attractions such as Brock Lesnar so much. That the fans were chanting Goldberg, who has been gone since 2004, should be an embarrassment to the WWE's once brilliant way of actually making wrestlers into legit headliners.

In saying that, I thought the main event last night was booked fine.
BFGArmy
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by stu64:
“That is 2 Summerslams in a row now that have ended on a very poor note and both involved Lesnar and neither were for the title.

As I said yesterday and others today, Suplex City has to go and if Brock does not want to do anything else then screw him. Not one person is bigger than the WWE, although it may seem it right now to ther other wrestlers. He can do what the hell he wants in the ring, including as little as possible and busting people open. He goes off script when he speaks, swears loads on Raw and at promotional events. Then add in the 2 failed tests over at the UFC.

The others on the roster must hate him now. Getting to main event last night in boring 10 min Suplex match, while they was 2 main World title matches on the card.

Also knew Goldberg would not show up, all down to them hyping WWE2K17 while trying to get people to think he would come down last night.

Lesnar is not scheduled to be at Raw tonight either, to much hard work”

It is noticable today how much people have turned on the Lesnar booking. Certainly quite a few on here have criticised it for a while but the consensus online before seemed to be that people still liked it - whereas now there seems to have been a shift in opinion.

Frankly if that was the planned ending it had no right main eventing.
That said I worry if the Universal title had main-evented because the crowd were laying into that belt (which is what that chanting was that I couldn't understand live).

That said last night really was kamikaze booking by WWE.
-Ziggler looks a total chump.
-Orton looks weak.
-Raw's main title is buried (because they let the 5 years old loose on design).
-Ambrose and Reigns were booked horribly and came across as heels.

The only real people to benefit last night were AJ, Nikki and Lesnar. Pleased for the former two (and frankly AJ should be a World champ asap - the guy is killing it week after week) but Lesnar really doesn't need yet another rub.
FMKK
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“It is noticable today how much people have turned on the Lesnar booking. Certainly quite a few on here have criticised it for a while but the consensus online before seemed to be that people still liked it - whereas now there seems to have been a shift in opinion.

Frankly if that was the planned ending it had no right main eventing.
That said I worry if the Universal title had main-evented because the crowd were laying into that belt (which is what that chanting was that I couldn't understand live).

That said last night really was kamikaze booking by WWE.
-Ziggler looks a total chump.
-Orton looks weak.
-Raw's main title is buried (because they let the 5 years old loose on design).
-Ambrose and Reigns were booked horribly and came across as heels.

The only real people to benefit last night were AJ, Nikki and Lesnar. Pleased for the former two (and frankly AJ should be a World champ asap - the guy is killing it week after week) but Lesnar really doesn't need yet another rub.”

Ambrose vs AJ is bound to be the next Smackdown main event feud. Ziggler was just a hold over til Styles finished up with Cena. The build to that match would give you the impression than Dolph had to win the title but on the other hand, that would have been a really bad decision. The reality is, he won a number one contender match but before that he had been jobbing for months so he just doesn't have the credibility.
Keith_13
22-08-2016
Why did every single match have a enziguri, think the only one that didn't was the Lesnar/Orton one.
FMKK
22-08-2016
WWE acknowledging Balor's injury.

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/767837744869543941
AceMcCloud
22-08-2016
I'm well beyond bored of constant suplexes from Lesnar, he looks, acts and performs stale

Delighted for Balor, thoroughly enjoyed that match

Reigns booked as a monster is good progress too
BFGArmy
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“Ambrose vs AJ is bound to be the next Smackdown main event feud. Ziggler was just a hold over til Styles finished up with Cena. The build to that match would give you the impression than Dolph had to win the title but on the other hand, that would have been a really bad decision. The reality is, he won a number one contender match but before that he had been jobbing for months so he just doesn't have the credibility.”

And frankly AJ should be winning that next feud.

I'm intrigued to see what's next - or more likely not - for Dolph. We all expect a heel turn I think but the way that match went was very odd and doesn't exactly naturally lead to a heel turn since Ambrose was very much the heel in that match.

The booking made Dolph look a chump too which is extremely odd given how SD is ludicrously bare bones for the next few weeks. You'd think in that scenario you want to make anyone look important you can - since the roster will basically be AJ, Ambrose, Wyatt and Ziggler for a few weeks now. But hey it's WWE.

To be frank I can't understand the rationale behind much of what happened at Summerslam.
James Frederick
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“WWE acknowledging Balor's injury.

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/767837744869543941”

Hopefully it's not to bad.

Mostly as I hate to see anyone injured but the first ever Universal Champion having to relinquish it less than 24 hours after winning it won't be good.
BFGArmy
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“WWE acknowledging Balor's injury.

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/767837744869543941”

Not good. Really hope it's not serious.

Is it too early to get rid of the brand split again? The rosters seem to be thinning dramatically - and that's assuming WWE isn't about to go all Oprah with suspensions.

Plus it'd mean we get rid of that All Red Everything Title Belt.

Either that or SD may need Eva Marie's announcer padding for half an hour. Which is no bad thing.
FMKK
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“And frankly AJ should be winning that next feud.

I'm intrigued to see what's next - or more likely not - for Dolph. We all expect a heel turn I think but the way that match went was very odd and doesn't exactly naturally lead to a heel turn since Ambrose was very much the heel in that match.

The booking made Dolph look a chump too which is extremely odd given how SD is ludicrously bare bones for the next few weeks. You'd think in that scenario you want to make anyone look important you can - since the roster will basically be AJ, Ambrose, Wyatt and Ziggler for a few weeks now. But hey it's WWE.

To be frank I can't understand the rationale behind much of what happened at Summerslam. ”

I like how Dean has carried himself as champ so I'd like to see him get a little longer but AJ should definitely win a feud between the two. Maybe Dean should get another challenger of the month before they start to give him a bit longer.

I think Styles is worthy of a long run right up until Mania while someone is built up to win it. Not sure who though.
FMKK
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“Not good. Really hope it's not serious.

Is it too early to get rid of the brand split again? The rosters seem to be thinning dramatically - and that's assuming WWE isn't about to go all Oprah with suspensions.

Plus it'd mean we get rid of that All Red Everything Title Belt.

Either that or SD may need Eva Marie's announcer padding for half an hour. Which is no bad thing.”

It's time to make Seth Rollins calm the **** down in the ring. Cena, Sting and now Balor. I know those guys have probably all been banged up in the past but I think this is further impetus for him to learn how to work like a proper heel to turn face.

Typical dreadful luck though. Not the biggest Balor fan as everyone knows but it was good to see WWE actually giving someone a real superstar push for the first time since Batista/Cena and he ends up hurt right away...

EDIT: This is where people are saying the injury came from.
https://twitter.com/JamieOD/status/767841576349474816
Lee_Smith2
22-08-2016
They've probably given Balor too much of a superman type push, which could work against him in the long run. They either don't get behind an act or go a bit overboard with it. 4 weeks since his debut on the main roster and he's already beat half of the main opposition on Raw and become a world champion as a babyface.
BFGArmy
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“I like how Dean has carried himself as champ so I'd like to see him get a little longer but AJ should definitely win a feud between the two. Maybe Dean should get another challenger of the month before they start to give him a bit longer.

I think Styles is worthy of a long run right up until Mania while someone is built up to win it. Not sure who though.”

Dean's character stuff has improved since becoming champ (they actually finally seemed to have figured the character out) but I still don't think his in-ring stuff is up to much.

I worry about the rest of SD though big time. There'll be Ambrose/AJ but then what? Cena, Orton and ADR all absent. Wyatt is a JTTS - Ziggler after last night is a joke. And then you're down to Miz, Corbin and Kalisto.

Doesn't exactly inspire confidence. The SD writers have done a good job so far with the resources they have but they really will have to excel to produce something from that situation.

Raw has more depth but it's not exactly in a healthy position either.
FMKK
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“Dean's character stuff has improved since becoming champ (they actually finally seemed to have figured the character out) but I still don't think his in-ring stuff is up to much.

I worry about the rest of SD though big time. There'll be Ambrose/AJ but then what? Cena, Orton and ADR all absent. Wyatt is a JTTS - Ziggler after last night is a joke. And then you're down to Miz, Corbin and Kalisto.

Doesn't exactly inspire confidence. The SD writers have done a good job so far with the resources they have but they really will have to excel to produce something from that situation.

Raw has more depth but it's not exactly in a healthy position either.”

I think they need to start building Wyatt again. The only problem is that there's no one in Smackdown with much credibility to actually put him over. There's lots of undercooked guys there who look like they could be pushed but I think have a midcard ceiling - Crews, Kalisto, Corbin etc.
Sinister2010
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“WWE acknowledging Balor's injury.

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/767837744869543941”

Oh balls hope its not too serious would suck if he were to relinquish the Universal title.
FMKK
22-08-2016
Jesus Christ, it's all happening in WWE right now. Jericho and Lesnar fighting backstage!

http://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/br...merslam-219211
Sinister2010
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“Not good. Really hope it's not serious.

Is it too early to get rid of the brand split again? The rosters seem to be thinning dramatically - and that's assuming WWE isn't about to go all Oprah with suspensions.

Plus it'd mean we get rid of that All Red Everything Title Belt.

Either that or SD may need Eva Marie's announcer padding for half an hour. Which is no bad thing.”

I think its a bit OTT to get rid of the brand split after barely a month I know the rosters look preety thin with injuries and suspensions think we might have to wait and see what WWE come up with before we start jumping to conclusions.
BFGArmy
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“I think they need to start building Wyatt again. The only problem is that there's no one in Smackdown with much credibility to actually put him over. There's lots of undercooked guys there who look like they could be pushed but I think have a midcard ceiling - Crews, Kalisto, Corbin etc.”

Forget there's no one with much credibility, the worry at this point with Smackdown is that we're getting close to the point where there actually could be no one. And that's even while ignoring the suspension rumours.

I have no idea how they are going to produce a 3-hour long card for their brand-specific PPV in 3 weeks time.
Hollie_Louise
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“Jesus Christ, it's all happening in WWE right now

http://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/br...merslam-219211”

Bloody hell. It's all going off.

But at least there hasn't been that mass suspension yet.
BFGArmy
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“Jesus Christ, it's all happening in WWE right now. Jericho and Lesnar fighting backstage!

http://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/br...merslam-219211”

I really hope WWE 24 were filming at Summerslam after reading that.

Goodness if even half of that is true that sounds incredible.
FMKK
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“Forget there's no one with much credibility, the worry at this point with Smackdown is that we're getting close to the point where there actually could be no one. And that's even while ignoring the suspension rumours.

I have no idea how they are going to produce a 3-hour long card for their brand-specific PPV in 3 weeks time.”

Desperate attempt to come up with a card:

Ambrose vs Styles,

Usos vs American Alpha,

Nikki Bella vs Becky Lynch,

Kalisto vs Corbin,

Wyatt vs Rowan

Miz vs someone

Fandango/Breeze vs Mojo/Ryder

Slim pickings tbh but still a few who are missing including Kane, Crews, Nattie and of course Ziggler. These specials should only be 2 hours like the NXT shows.
Sinister2010
22-08-2016
Sorry to go slightly off topic but as you may know I have been watching the Olympics and I think I might have spotted a WWE wrestler lookalike (BFG Im blaming you lol). Does anyone think that Liam Heath (Kayak dude) looks eerily like Cesaro?
BFGArmy
22-08-2016
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“Bloody hell. It's all going off.

But at least there hasn't been that mass suspension yet.”

Frankly if we have that mass suspension, for all we know SD could well consist of Eva Marie's announcer talking for 2 hours.
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