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World Wrestling Entertainment Discussion 42 (Spoilers)
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Lee_Smith2
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“Which begs the question why all women are not on one brand.”

All comes down to the desirei to book not only brand PPVs but 8 of them a year. They'll be milking the feuds, matches more than ever and building less and less. And people were saying the product was overexposed in 2006!

With over 50 hours of WWE fresh main content a month this is like a part time job.
BFGArmy
06-09-2016
Manchester, England - a stone's throw for London in WWE's version of geography.

Poor Dana.

What's this joker doing here?
James Frederick
06-09-2016
Is he still pissed
BFGArmy
06-09-2016
Apollo Crews got a spelling bee gimmick, Bo Dallas gets a rhyming gimmick.

I do like the return of squash matches. Anywho I'm off.
James Frederick
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“Manchester, England - a stone's throw for London in WWE's version of geography.

Poor Dana.

What's this joker doing here?”

TBF by US standards it is over there it's not uncommon for someone to travel a few 100 miles to work everyday.
richie4eva
06-09-2016
Good match from Rollins and Jericho

Next up the never ending feud
James Frederick
06-09-2016
Last week Big Cass was in the main event for the Universal Championship.


This week he's taking on the Shining Stars.






And losing.
JCR
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“Manchester, England - a stone's throw for London in WWE's version of geography.”

In fairness the US is like that, seen NFL Network talk about how all but one of the Steelers away games this year is within 4 hours drive of Pittsburgh so there will be no barrier to Steelers fans attending, & heard ESPN talk about college football rivals whose grounds are 250 miles away from each other as if that was nothing.
richie4eva
06-09-2016
Good news from Mrs Mikaze

No retirement or serious injury, just bad news for Charlotte as most expected
pembo2004
06-09-2016
boooooooooo reigns
James Frederick
06-09-2016
So close so so close to a show without seeing him.
James Frederick
06-09-2016
Great just great
pembo2004
06-09-2016
we arent that lucky james
hazydayz
06-09-2016
Another Emmy award winning episode of Raw from what I've read online and they have Sasha bury the women and booking of what came before her, the kind of women and booking that had 6 and 7 million people watching Raw at one time. When the women in wrestling really were hot and sexy and something special, some of the hottest women on TV.
DanielF
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by hazydayz:
“Another Emmy award winning episode of Raw from what I've read online and they have Sasha bury the women and booking of what came before her, the kind of women and booking that had 6 and 7 million people watching Raw at one time. When the women in wrestling really were hot and sexy and something special, some of the hottest women on TV.”

If I want to see hot women I'll watch porn. I want to watch wrestling, and that's infinitely better now.
James Frederick
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by DanielF:
“If I want to see hot women I'll watch porn. I want to watch wrestling, and that's infinitely better now.”

I agree and Sasha didn't put down the women she said they deserved better than the Bra and Pantie Matches (Which I hated even at the time)


There is a reason for all that time the womens matches were known as the piss brake match now people actully want to watch them wrestle.
dave_windows
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by AJ Wheels:
“CM Punk will win it.

We should all be supporting him shouldn't we? Hes one of 'our' guys.”

I dont think we should be supporting him after how he badmouthed the sport after he quit.
dave_windows
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“I agree and Sasha didn't put down the women she said they deserved better than the Bra and Pantie Matches (Which I hated even at the time)


There is a reason for all that time the womens matches were known as the piss brake match now people actully want to watch them wrestle.”

What was so bad about Bra & Pantie matches?

that was a cool feature on the PS2 games.
PandaPawPaw
06-09-2016
That Old Day/A&G segment was pure trash. One of the worst things I've seen!

A&G need to go back to New Japan as they've become a total joke in the WWE (as I expected the WWE to turn them into).

Also don't give two shits about Banks. Seriously over rated just like Trish/Lita. Especially the latter who I thought was really sloppy in the ring.

Oh and she goes on about the women's revolution and all that but goes and calls Dana miss piggy. Riiiiiight.

Also the whole crying thing from the women needs to stop. Yeah it's showing emotion and all that but it feels like they cry at anything these days.

Bailey = Ugh.

Seth needs to stop using the Pedigree but logic and WWE don't go together.

The rest of RAW was meh.
James Frederick
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“What was so bad about Bra & Pantie matches?

that was a cool feature on the PS2 games.”

Because it was degrading to the women involved.


Even if it wasn't not one of them was good and was only done to try and hide the fact most of the women had little to no talent and the ones who did had to hold back so the ones without didn't look even more stupid.

When I taped the PPV's I used to pause my recording and cut those matches out.

As said it's wrestling not porn if the guys watching are do desprate to see a girl with little clothing on by a mag or watch a X Rated film.
AJ Wheels
06-09-2016
Where, oh where are my CM Punk chants recently?

C'mon crowds.

All together now,

CM PUNK
CM PUNK
CM PUNK
AJ Wheels
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“Because it was degrading to the women involved.


Even if it wasn't not one of them was good and was only done to try and hide the fact most of the women had little to no talent and the ones who did had to hold back so the ones without didn't look even more stupid.

When I taped the PPV's I used to pause my recording and cut those matches out.

As said it's wrestling not porn if the guys watching are do desprate to see a girl with little clothing on by a mag or watch a X Rated film.”

TBF James, you wouldn't like the bra and panties matches would you?

Dont i remember saying you are asexual? So that kind of gimmick stuff isnt geared at you.
hazydayz
06-09-2016
The women back then were far more than just bra and panties match competitors, the women were treated seriously. Women like Sable and Chyna were just as over as any of the males, they got physical, they meant business, they weren't out there just for the sake of it. It wasn't until after the Attitude Era that you had a divide and you had many women who were there just for eye candy but you also had others that were there for the wrestling like Lita and Jacqueline, Torrie Wilson, Trish Stratus later on down the line became more about the wrestling and moved away from the role she previously had.

Apparantly the average age of a WWE viewer in America is a 41 year old male. In other words the WWE has an aging fanbase, it's basically a lot of the same people that watched 20 years ago and have probably grew up watching it.

What advertising companies want however is a younger male demographic, the WWE does not fit that demographic nor do they even try and appeal to that demographic. I understand wrestling fans can be an odd bunch, I'm assuming upbringings and life experiences have molded them a certain and skewed manys ways of thinking but the fact is 18 - 34 year old males like hot women, they want to see hot women. Hot women are expected on a wrestling show. Just like blood and violence should be expected. There should be a certain amount of sleaziness to it all. I understand in this PC world now where everyone is so touchy and we can't talk about anything and everyone gets a medal that it might not be a popular opinion but that is how it is. The WWE is too corporate to think like that, everything has to be so fake and phony like...you know what I'm talking about. So phony and the women's thing is much along the same thing.

We respect women now and women can wrestle and you know what? The world doesn't care because only wrestling fans are watching the show. 16 years ago there was 10 million people in the USA alone watching WWF and WCW. 10 million people that weren't wrestling fans, they were TV fans, people that didn't care what they watched as long as it was entertaining and fun and the WWE has stripped all the fun out of wrestling and by doing that they're just preaching to their own choir. Now if there was 10 million people watching the show every week and most weren't wrestling fans then it's ok, then you might just convince a few million of them that hey.....this wrestling thing's not half bad is it? But when it's the same people watching and most of them are smarks, it doesn't matter.





Oh and Sasha should also take notice that all those women were over. Everyone I just mentioned there, they couldn't walk through an airport without getting noticed, they couldn't walk down a street without people noticing and the reason none of them complained about the booking or anything Russo did was because they knew it worked, they were over, they were in the professional wrestling business and they were a huge part of the show. They were also millionaires which is a good thing, wrestling is a business afterall, I think some of these youngsters forget that. The whole point is to make money, ain't nobody gonna respect you for holding belts and winning matches, make some moments, make some memories, do something that people will remember for the rest of their life, that's when you've made it, that's when you know you're a star.
AJ Wheels
06-09-2016
Why are you commenting on bra and panties nonsense instead of the real talking points movieguy?

CM Punk, CM Punk chants, and CM Punks awesome hair and beard combo.
Lee_Smith2
06-09-2016
I skipped the teen titilizing stuff at the time too. WWE and later WCW's version on soft porn didn't really appeal for long. If they tried it now in the PornHub world it would be just sad. Apart from Trish, Mickie and Victoria, with her awesome theme, the rest of the women throughout the noughties were just eye candy to me. A lot of shitty wrestling and VERY misogynistically produced content featuring unlikable characters. It was TNA who got me into Women's wrestling.

The WWE have kept the momentum on what NXT has started, but have watered it down by splitting the division. The Bayley/Charlotte match, for example, would have fared better with 6 weeks build.
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