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World Wrestling Entertainment Discussion 42 (Spoilers)
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hazydayz
06-09-2016
Everyone is different. It's not about being sexual. What Vince Russo is trying to say today is that the women back then were proud of their work. Sasha Banks made it seem like the bra and panties stuff was something that should be forgotten about when the women at that time had no problem doing it and then the digs with the butterfly belt, the women that fought over that butterfly belt would have no problem carrying it around. She makes it sound shameful.

And going back to the bra and panties matches, those women back then were over, they were all different in their own way. They were proud to show off their bodies, it wasn't something that degraded them and they were forced to do, they were strong independent women who had worked had on their bodies and were proud to show their bodies off. It's no different than a male wrestler or even any male that's worked hard on their body at the gym and is confident and wants to show it off, Sable and Trish wanted to show their body off, they worked hard to get it looking that way. They were proud off their bodies.

And if people wanna think otherwise they can, ask the average male walking the street. Men like hot women. Men want to see hot women. And does it only work one way? You're telling me all those young girls in the crowd and all those older women are there to sit and watch wrestling matches? You kidding me? They're not there to see men with baby oil on their bodies walking around with little underpants on? Believe me, women watch wrestling for the men just as much as men out there enjoy watching the women. So it's ok for women to watch wrestling and watch men playfight and sweat and have their bodies touching but it's not okay for the female wrestlers to dress sexy and act sexy? It's a bit odd.


Then again no doubt Stephanie wrote the script. The collecting cans for tickets. The fight for a revolution. It's so hokey. At least when Edge and Daniel Bryan retired there was a bit of sincerity in their promos, right away when she goes on about collecting cans and Stephanie McMahon and her revolution, right away the audience knows it's a script and you know it's an angle and if you listen to Sasha, she doesn't believe in it. You can look in someone's eyes when they're speaking and tell if they're being honest, she didn't believe it last night and it came across but that's the case with much of the roster, they're just reciting scripts that they have no choice but to read and they don't believe in it cause it's not their own words.
dazc
06-09-2016
Raw was ok but why no triple h and why did they not turn Rollins full face and why is Roman still in the main event and sasha was right in her promo I prefer women wrestling great matches than being showcased as modles
DanielF
06-09-2016
I notice that it appears to be WWE night on Sky Sports Mix, including Raw. Sucks for us subscribers...
James Frederick
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by AJ Wheels:
“TBF James, you wouldn't like the bra and panties matches would you?

Dont i remember saying you are asexual? So that kind of gimmick stuff isnt geared at you.”

Yes I am but I was on the internet at the time and did the same asvwe do here posted live during the events and pretty much everybody felt the same way.

Only thing they were good for is it did give you a few mins to go to the bog or get more snacks/drinks.

Now the problem is if I need a piss I don't want to miss any matches.
cris182
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by dazc:
“Raw was ok but why no triple h and why did they not turn Rollins full face and why is Roman still in the main event and sasha was right in her promo I prefer women wrestling great matches than being showcased as modles”

I have this fear they are building him up to beat Brock at mania, That way they will finally get him over as 'the guy'
PandaPawPaw
06-09-2016
Seth really needs to stop with the nude pics and shit. The guy never learns.
LeeleeSTAR
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by DanielF:
“I notice that it appears to be WWE night on Sky Sports Mix, including Raw. Sucks for us subscribers...”

The thing I can see on sky sport mix today is a wwe special about the ultimate warrior.
AceMcCloud
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by PandaPawPaw:
“I'm finding Mauro harder and harder to listen to each week. His OTT nature is really pissing me off now.

DB is pretty bad too on the CWC comms. 'I've never seen that before!' Oh **** off!”


TOPÈ SUICIDA!!!!
stu64
06-09-2016
Just caught up with Raw and it was down right awful.

Few points ;

The New Day had a great run and were great..as always with the WWE, they over do everything and let it die a very slow death. They need splitting up now.

Darren Young v Jinder Mahal is a match that should never be on Raw...also why resign Mahal when he is still jobing out?

Anderson and Gallows...Well done Vince, you have ruined everything what was good about them. They are now just a joke team when they could and should of been a top heel tag team.

Nia Jax is also thankful there are no more bra and panties matches

One week Big Cass is in a World Title match, now he is losing to Primo and Epico...in fact the whole tag team division right now is one huge mess.

Since the brand spilt, Raw has had some bright moments but on the whole it is really no better at all, which is not a good thing.
Lee_Smith2
06-09-2016
Anderson and Gallows were screwed when they jobbed out to The Usos several times within weeks of debuting. A team like that should have been booked in the ring akin to Authors of Pain. Though I'm in the minority for enjoying their segments and comedy. Sure it's very much McMahon/Dunn influenced segments and skits, but I find them entertaining at it.
vampirek
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by cris182:
“I have this fear they are building him up to beat Brock at mania, That way they will finally get him over as 'the guy'”

They missed that chance when they faced off at Wrestlemania by having Rollins cash in.

Chances are Lesnar is going into a program with Owens with the stop gap of Lesnar v Jericho first.

Rollins will move on to HHH and as for Reigns, he'll either be given Sheamus or Strowman.
FMKK
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by hazydayz:
“Everyone is different. It's not about being sexual. What Vince Russo is trying to say today is that the women back then were proud of their work. Sasha Banks made it seem like the bra and panties stuff was something that should be forgotten about when the women at that time had no problem doing it and then the digs with the butterfly belt, the women that fought over that butterfly belt would have no problem carrying it around. She makes it sound shameful.

And going back to the bra and panties matches, those women back then were over, they were all different in their own way. They were proud to show off their bodies, it wasn't something that degraded them and they were forced to do, they were strong independent women who had worked had on their bodies and were proud to show their bodies off. It's no different than a male wrestler or even any male that's worked hard on their body at the gym and is confident and wants to show it off, Sable and Trish wanted to show their body off, they worked hard to get it looking that way. They were proud off their bodies.

And if people wanna think otherwise they can, ask the average male walking the street. Men like hot women. Men want to see hot women. And does it only work one way? You're telling me all those young girls in the crowd and all those older women are there to sit and watch wrestling matches? You kidding me? They're not there to see men with baby oil on their bodies walking around with little underpants on? Believe me, women watch wrestling for the men just as much as men out there enjoy watching the women. So it's ok for women to watch wrestling and watch men playfight and sweat and have their bodies touching but it's not okay for the female wrestlers to dress sexy and act sexy? It's a bit odd.


Then again no doubt Stephanie wrote the script. The collecting cans for tickets. The fight for a revolution. It's so hokey. At least when Edge and Daniel Bryan retired there was a bit of sincerity in their promos, right away when she goes on about collecting cans and Stephanie McMahon and her revolution, right away the audience knows it's a script and you know it's an angle and if you listen to Sasha, she doesn't believe in it. You can look in someone's eyes when they're speaking and tell if they're being honest, she didn't believe it last night and it came across but that's the case with much of the roster, they're just reciting scripts that they have no choice but to read and they don't believe in it cause it's not their own words.”

All this to argue that Russo wasn't being a hypocrite when he clearly was. Spare yourself the time mate.
FMKK
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by cris182:
“I have this fear they are building him up to beat Brock at mania, That way they will finally get him over as 'the guy'”

The only Brock match I actually want to see on this roster.
AJ Wheels
07-09-2016
I was there live for their 31 match. People thought it would be a stinker

was a diamond of a match.

Lesnar and Reigns have amazing chemistry
lionsof66
07-09-2016
Bit of a live cock up there when they were introducing the American Alpha package.
FMKK
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by AJ Wheels:
“I was there live for their 31 match. People thought it would be a stinker

was a diamond of a match.

Lesnar and Reigns have amazing chemistry”

Match of the year for sure. None of this flippy flopping with no selling. They beat the shit out of each other.

Here comes Nikki to save this messy show.
FMKK
07-09-2016
Carmella's not ready for live TV matches yet.
James Frederick
07-09-2016
Guessing The Uso's will cost AA the match at Backlash.
lionsof66
07-09-2016
Bloody sky box decided to be update just as the usos were coming out. What happened? Did they turn heel?
richie4eva
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by lionsof66:
“Bloody sky box decided to be update just as the usos were coming out. What happened? Did they turn heel?”

Yes they finally turned

Now just BOOOOOOOOOO Reigns to complete the set
lionsof66
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by richie4eva:
“Yes they finally turned

Now just BOOOOOOOOOO Reigns to complete the set ”

Finally! Good team but they had nowhere left to go as faces.
lionsof66
07-09-2016
What are they doing with Kane?

Also on WWE's Facebook page, there's a video from before smackdown of Heath Slater introducing his family to the audience. It's pretty funny if, like me, you are really enjoying Slater at the moment. The guy genuinely is good at comedy, it doesn't feel forced like it often does when WWE try and force comedy down our throats (Gallows and Anderson I'm looking at you)
calderyon
07-09-2016
So the Bozos are finally bad guys. About time.
calderyon
07-09-2016
Hopefully Slyno wins this.
James Frederick
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by calderyon:
“Hopefully Slyno wins this.”

They will win it all so Slater gets his contract but after that I can't see them holding them for long.

But even if they lost them next week on SD Slater will get his contract and for him that is the storyline more than the titles.
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