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Old 16-09-2016, 18:21
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Apparently WWE are so happy with the CWC they are thinking about doing a Womens version of it as well as CWC2.

In other news Ryback is telling people he is going to legally change his name to Ryback so he can carry on using it.

Edit to add he has already done it according to reports.
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Old 16-09-2016, 18:25
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Apparently WWE are so happy with the CWC they are thinking about doing a Womens version of it as well as CWC2.

In other news Ryback is telling people he is going to legally change his name to Ryback so he can carry on using it.

Edit to add he has already done it according to reports.
With regards to Ryback, after listening to his podcast, I had no idea that a lot of wrestlers on the roster still have to use their own money to buy hire cars and hotels.

Bit crazy that, even I get my hotels and any hire car's sorted out via our HR department and I am very low down the food chain. Those poor guys though spend 300 plus days a year travelling all over the world and yet the WWE really can not sort out all that kind of stuff for them?
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Old 16-09-2016, 18:48
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With regards to Ryback, after listening to his podcast, I had no idea that a lot of wrestlers on the roster still have to use their own money to buy hire cars and hotels.

Bit crazy that, even I get my hotels and any hire car's sorted out via our HR department and I am very low down the food chain. Those poor guys though spend 300 plus days a year travelling all over the world and yet the WWE really can not sort out all that kind of stuff for them?
Yes, Apparently that is a cause of a lot of people getting fed up etc, If you are shelling out to travel half way around the country, Then booking somewhere to stay only to find you aren't booked on the show etc then you are eventually going to get fed up

Even more so if you are in match with a guy who gets paid twice what you did for the same match
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Old 16-09-2016, 20:30
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Here's the bit in the match.

I didn't notice it at the time but only realised after I saw it mentioned elsewhere. Pretty sad of them to do that but hey ho it is the WWE after all so it's no surprise.
If there's one thing we've learned over the years, it's that WWF/E is run by very small people. Petty grudges mean more to them than anything else.
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Old 16-09-2016, 20:56
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Reports that Brandi Rhodes has signed with TNA.

What's the betting her new name is Eve?
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Old 16-09-2016, 21:06
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Reports that Brandi Rhodes has signed with TNA.

What's the betting her new name is Eve?
Also dispite Cody claiming he holds the rights to the Cody Rhodes name reports are still coming out WWE owns it and won't allow him to use it in ROH or TNA (He was given permission to use it in other places so far)


If this is true why not pull a Ryback/Warrior/Chyna and just legally change his name it's pretty much the family name anyway.
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Old 16-09-2016, 21:15
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Apparently WWE are so happy with the CWC they are thinking about doing a Womens version of it as well as CWC2.

In other news Ryback is telling people he is going to legally change his name to Ryback so he can carry on using it.

Edit to add he has already done it according to reports.
They should do. WWE should do annual tournaments every quarter. CWC for the Cruiserweights, Queen of the Ring for the Women, King of the Ring for the Men and the Dusty Classic for the Tag Teams as a way to highlight new talent.
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Old 16-09-2016, 21:40
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Yes, Apparently that is a cause of a lot of people getting fed up etc, If you are shelling out to travel half way around the country, Then booking somewhere to stay only to find you aren't booked on the show etc then you are eventually going to get fed up

Even more so if you are in match with a guy who gets paid twice what you did for the same match
I think the general stinginess of wresting in general is partly why we've seen the shift towards the indie raised sensations or spot based workhorses coming in and then naturally getting over to certain extents. Zayn, Ambrose, Crews, Balor, Owens, Rollins, Bryan, Neville etc. Even the WWE raised performers, who have got over such as Ziggler and Ryder, were big fans of WWE growing up.

A lot of non smarks for WWE athletes now would be swayed towards the lucrative MMA scene.
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Old 16-09-2016, 22:04
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Yes, Apparently that is a cause of a lot of people getting fed up etc, If you are shelling out to travel half way around the country, Then booking somewhere to stay only to find you aren't booked on the show etc then you are eventually going to get fed up

Even more so if you are in match with a guy who gets paid twice what you did for the same match
Isn't this more to do with them not technically being under contract with WWE, as afterall they are "independent contractors", so having to pay for hotels and cars etc is because of that I would imagine.

If they actually were a full-time employee of WWE, then they might get those as part of the contract.
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Old 16-09-2016, 22:05
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Apparently WWE are so happy with the CWC they are thinking about doing a Womens version of it as well as CWC2.

In other news Ryback is telling people he is going to legally change his name to Ryback so he can carry on using it.

Edit to add he has already done it according to reports.
I so hope that there is a female one, and a second male one, hopefully Bubblegum could get an invite, he would definitely be my pick!
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Old 17-09-2016, 11:04
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It was revealed during tonight’s WWE NXT TV tapings that “Sanity” will consist of
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Vignettes for Sanity have been airing for several weeks now and the group will soon debut.
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Old 17-09-2016, 13:05
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Definitely think 4 quarterly tournaments is a good idea. I enjoyed the CWC a lot and I think a Queen and King Of The Ring and the Dusty Tag Classic possibly using some WWE talent but the majority from outside would be great.
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Old 17-09-2016, 13:08
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If there's one thing we've learned over the years, it's that WWF/E is run by very small people. Petty grudges mean more to them than anything else.
Like Disney, the illusion is better when you are young.
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Old 17-09-2016, 14:10
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When you look at the money many wrestlers are making in WWE, you would think that WWE is some power hungry corporation that wants to stop them making millions and be in complete control when the truth is Ryback will make decent money on the indies......but is it really worth all the hassle of not giving him the name?


It's like Raw getting a 1.8 this week. Everyone can see how terrible the show is but for WWE, they genuinely must think it's good. They have to. They have no idea what regular people truly think about wrestling.


I think this year is a very low point for wrestling. I read Backlash had 7,000 fans. I know the arenas they use now look tiny on TV but I never thought I'd see them do under 9 or 10k for a PPV. I don't take any pride in it at all. I'm not gloating at all. It upsets me to see a business I've watched for 30 years be at such a low point. Having people like AJ Styles and Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn on national TV......and I know Vince's hand is forced, I know he has no choice but even he must come outside of that bubble at times and realise how it looks. How it comes across.

People on your show that, it's like the idiots in the school playground, the kid that always wants to fight but every one knows there's no chance they're winning any fight lol. They've got them parading on the show with belts and you know the average man or woman at home is laughing, there's no way Kevin Owens or AJ or anyone else from NXT is winning a real fight in real life so why ask people to make believe they're a champion in the wrestling.


And the number will continue to drop. 1.88 is not the lowest we will see Raw go. The WWE clearly has no idea how terrible the show is so I'm hoping if it gets knocked down to a 1.5 or maybe even near the 1.0 that's when NBC or USA Network will step in and say hey come on, enough of this jokey wrestling, enough with the piss taking, get some men and women that look and act like wrestlers, give them characters, give them storylines, enough of this cartoonish wrestling with regular looking people that couldn't win a fight if their life depended on it. Get it sorted.


And i don't care how rich the McMahon family is, when they come knocking Vince McMahon will get on his knees willingly and do as he's told. Never mind about the reading lessons in schooles and bangles and visiting the troops, you're a TV show, act like one.
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Old 17-09-2016, 15:49
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It was revealed during tonight’s WWE NXT TV tapings that “Sanity” will consist of Eric Young, Nikki Storm, Alexander Wolfe and Sawyer Fulton. Vignettes for Sanity have been airing for several weeks now and the group will soon debut.
Nikki storm was in the UK recently.
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Old 17-09-2016, 15:56
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Like Disney, the illusion is better when you are young.
Obviously. One of the reason I hate Disney is they refuse to let TV channel Challenge buy the rights to air the early series of Catchphrase because they want too much money knowing full well Challenge cant afford it.
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Old 17-09-2016, 16:03
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Apparently WWE are so happy with the CWC they are thinking about doing a Womens version of it as well as CWC2.

In other news Ryback is telling people he is going to legally change his name to Ryback so he can carry on using it.

Edit to add he has already done it according to reports.
I only want to see a womens classic if and thats IF they bring in Sara Del Rey to wrestle and not waste her as a NXT Trainer. There are a ton of Shimmer girls WWE should employ but they dont.
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Old 17-09-2016, 16:05
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Obviously. One of the reason I hate Disney is they refuse to let TV channel Challenge buy the rights to air the early series of Catchphrase because they want too much money knowing full well Challenge cant afford it.
That's not quite right. Where'd you hear that? The original series were made by TVS, which yes has eventually been acquired by Disney (via their ABC subsidiary). The problem with Challenge airing them is more to do with the same issue with most TVS shows - over the years, the rights paperwork weren't retained and without this it's near impossible to make sure all the permissions for broadcast have been sourced. It's the same with the British version of Fraggle Rock, for instance.

Sorry for the Off Topic post, there are reasons to dislike Disney ("hate", really?) but it's false rumours like that which give this forum the reputation it has externally.
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Old 17-09-2016, 16:19
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That's not quite right. Where'd you hear that? 5£3 original series were made by TVS, which yes has eventually been acquired by Disney (via their ABC subsidiary). The problem with Challenge airing them is more to do with the same issue with most TVS shows - over the years, the rights paperwork weren't retained and without this it's near impossible to make sure all the permissions for broadcast have been sourced. It's the same with the British version of Fraggle Rock, for instance.

Sorry for the Off Topic post, there are reasons to dislike Disney ("hate", really?) but it's false rumours like that which give this forum the reputation it has externally.
Slight rant here but why the hell cant Disney give us proper DVD releases? Why is the artwork on the DVDs so shit? Considering they charge 15 quid a Disney movie and they just give us a grey label with the text of the film on it just lazy.

Im sure im not the only one that this pisses off.
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Old 17-09-2016, 16:22
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Anyone heard the rumours that WWE has put a bid in for TNA

http://www.inquisitr.com/3518230/wwe...ling-recently/

http://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-reported...id-to-buy-tna/
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Old 17-09-2016, 16:47
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I heard they put a bid in about a year ago.


I thought Billy Corgan was pretty much taking over now anyway and keeps buying more and more soon he could own most of it.

I haven't even watched TNA since the Final Deletion Match which was so bad it put me off TNA.
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Old 17-09-2016, 17:25
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I think this year is a very low point for wrestling. I read Backlash had 7,000 fans. I know the arenas they use now look tiny on TV but I never thought I'd see them do under 9 or 10k for a PPV. I don't take any pride in it at all. I'm not gloating at all. It upsets me to see a business I've watched for 30 years be at such a low point. Having people like AJ Styles and Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn on national TV......and I know Vince's hand is forced, I know he has no choice but even he must come outside of that bubble at times and realise how it looks. How it comes across.

People on your show that, it's like the idiots in the school playground, the kid that always wants to fight but every one knows there's no chance they're winning any fight lol. They've got them parading on the show with belts and you know the average man or woman at home is laughing, there's no way Kevin Owens or AJ or anyone else from NXT is winning a real fight in real life so why ask people to make believe they're a champion in the wrestling
It's not really much to do with this. If it was Vince hand-picked guys like Ryback, Sheamus, Reigns and Del Rio would have caught on big time. The lack of defining and creating compelling characters is much more the issue. Generally the decline in ratings could be attributed to:

- Format of prime time TV wrestling hasn't changed much at all since mid to late 90's
- Running time that of a movie epic
- Kids of the Cena and Batista years now teens/adults
- 50/50 and constant short term booking
- Apathetic approach to narrative
- Manchild, corny humour to appeal to McMahon
- Obsession with sports entertainment and cult like approach
- Changing viewing habits
- Yes, too many ordinary looking 'superstars' working a lot of spot based matches without a compelling character depth.
- From supplanting Punk as below the partimers while on a long title reign, all the way to booking Rollins like Honky Tonk Man and having him as figurehead for 8 months.

Together it has been a toxic combination.
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Old 17-09-2016, 18:32
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It's not really much to do with this. If it was Vince hand-picked guys like Ryback, Sheamus, Reigns and Del Rio would have caught on big time. The lack of defining and creating compelling characters is much more the issue. Generally the decline in ratings could be attributed to:

- Format of prime time TV wrestling hasn't changed much at all since mid to late 90's
- Running time that of a movie epic
- Kids of the Cena and Batista years now teens/adults
- 50/50 and constant short term booking
- Apathetic approach to narrative
- Manchild, corny humour to appeal to McMahon
- Obsession with sports entertainment and cult like approach
- Changing viewing habits
- Yes, too many ordinary looking 'superstars' working a lot of spot based matches without a compelling character depth.
- From supplanting Punk as below the partimers while on a long title reign, all the way to booking Rollins like Honky Tonk Man and having him as figurehead for 8 months.

Together it has been a toxic combination.
These are all really good points and there are probably even more that could be made. It's worth mentioning that there were times when the hand-picked guys you mentioned like Ryback and Reigns were actually very over with the crowd but they were booked poorly. The difference is that the hardcore fanbase that WWE has been reduced to are will turn on those guys when they're being booked poorly while they'd give the benefit of the doubt to Sami Zayn or Daniel Bryan or whoever if they were being booked poorly.

But the problems are almost all in the booking/creative aspect rather than the talent if the guys. Well the working style kinda sucks too but that again could be fixed by good creative direction.
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Old 17-09-2016, 18:37
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I never did like Ryback.

He was ok when squashing jobbers in a few seconds but as soon as he had to have a competitive match that went even a few minuites it showed how bad he was.
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Old 17-09-2016, 18:43
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Like Disney, the illusion is better when you are young.
I definitely think there is something to this.

WWE appealed to a lot of us when we were younger because it was brash, edgy, dangerous, rebellious. It's hard to say to what extent wrestling when we grew up was actually good, and to what extent it was just what that generation demanded. There is a definite culture clash, and that's why when we get the likes of Austin, The Rock etc. showing up, that is most apparent. Rock has been booed more often in some of his more recent appearances because he's not the same character we all loved in the 90s.
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