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Apparently WWE are so happy with the CWC they are thinking about doing a Womens version of it as well as CWC2.
In other news Ryback is telling people he is going to legally change his name to Ryback so he can carry on using it. Edit to add he has already done it according to reports. |
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Apparently WWE are so happy with the CWC they are thinking about doing a Womens version of it as well as CWC2.
In other news Ryback is telling people he is going to legally change his name to Ryback so he can carry on using it. Edit to add he has already done it according to reports. Bit crazy that, even I get my hotels and any hire car's sorted out via our HR department and I am very low down the food chain. Those poor guys though spend 300 plus days a year travelling all over the world and yet the WWE really can not sort out all that kind of stuff for them? |
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With regards to Ryback, after listening to his podcast, I had no idea that a lot of wrestlers on the roster still have to use their own money to buy hire cars and hotels.
Bit crazy that, even I get my hotels and any hire car's sorted out via our HR department and I am very low down the food chain. Those poor guys though spend 300 plus days a year travelling all over the world and yet the WWE really can not sort out all that kind of stuff for them? Even more so if you are in match with a guy who gets paid twice what you did for the same match |
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Here's the bit in the match.
I didn't notice it at the time but only realised after I saw it mentioned elsewhere. Pretty sad of them to do that but hey ho it is the WWE after all so it's no surprise. |
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Reports that Brandi Rhodes has signed with TNA.
What's the betting her new name is Eve? |
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Reports that Brandi Rhodes has signed with TNA.
What's the betting her new name is Eve? If this is true why not pull a Ryback/Warrior/Chyna and just legally change his name it's pretty much the family name anyway. |
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Apparently WWE are so happy with the CWC they are thinking about doing a Womens version of it as well as CWC2.
In other news Ryback is telling people he is going to legally change his name to Ryback so he can carry on using it. Edit to add he has already done it according to reports. |
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Yes, Apparently that is a cause of a lot of people getting fed up etc, If you are shelling out to travel half way around the country, Then booking somewhere to stay only to find you aren't booked on the show etc then you are eventually going to get fed up
Even more so if you are in match with a guy who gets paid twice what you did for the same match A lot of non smarks for WWE athletes now would be swayed towards the lucrative MMA scene. |
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Yes, Apparently that is a cause of a lot of people getting fed up etc, If you are shelling out to travel half way around the country, Then booking somewhere to stay only to find you aren't booked on the show etc then you are eventually going to get fed up
Even more so if you are in match with a guy who gets paid twice what you did for the same match If they actually were a full-time employee of WWE, then they might get those as part of the contract. |
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Apparently WWE are so happy with the CWC they are thinking about doing a Womens version of it as well as CWC2.
In other news Ryback is telling people he is going to legally change his name to Ryback so he can carry on using it. Edit to add he has already done it according to reports. |
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It was revealed during tonight’s WWE NXT TV tapings that “Sanity” will consist of
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Definitely think 4 quarterly tournaments is a good idea. I enjoyed the CWC a lot and I think a Queen and King Of The Ring and the Dusty Tag Classic possibly using some WWE talent but the majority from outside would be great.
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If there's one thing we've learned over the years, it's that WWF/E is run by very small people. Petty grudges mean more to them than anything else.
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When you look at the money many wrestlers are making in WWE, you would think that WWE is some power hungry corporation that wants to stop them making millions and be in complete control when the truth is Ryback will make decent money on the indies......but is it really worth all the hassle of not giving him the name?
It's like Raw getting a 1.8 this week. Everyone can see how terrible the show is but for WWE, they genuinely must think it's good. They have to. They have no idea what regular people truly think about wrestling. I think this year is a very low point for wrestling. I read Backlash had 7,000 fans. I know the arenas they use now look tiny on TV but I never thought I'd see them do under 9 or 10k for a PPV. I don't take any pride in it at all. I'm not gloating at all. It upsets me to see a business I've watched for 30 years be at such a low point. Having people like AJ Styles and Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn on national TV......and I know Vince's hand is forced, I know he has no choice but even he must come outside of that bubble at times and realise how it looks. How it comes across. People on your show that, it's like the idiots in the school playground, the kid that always wants to fight but every one knows there's no chance they're winning any fight lol. They've got them parading on the show with belts and you know the average man or woman at home is laughing, there's no way Kevin Owens or AJ or anyone else from NXT is winning a real fight in real life so why ask people to make believe they're a champion in the wrestling. And the number will continue to drop. 1.88 is not the lowest we will see Raw go. The WWE clearly has no idea how terrible the show is so I'm hoping if it gets knocked down to a 1.5 or maybe even near the 1.0 that's when NBC or USA Network will step in and say hey come on, enough of this jokey wrestling, enough with the piss taking, get some men and women that look and act like wrestlers, give them characters, give them storylines, enough of this cartoonish wrestling with regular looking people that couldn't win a fight if their life depended on it. Get it sorted. And i don't care how rich the McMahon family is, when they come knocking Vince McMahon will get on his knees willingly and do as he's told. Never mind about the reading lessons in schooles and bangles and visiting the troops, you're a TV show, act like one. |
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It was revealed during tonight’s WWE NXT TV tapings that “Sanity” will consist of Eric Young, Nikki Storm, Alexander Wolfe and Sawyer Fulton. Vignettes for Sanity have been airing for several weeks now and the group will soon debut.
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Like Disney, the illusion is better when you are young.
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Apparently WWE are so happy with the CWC they are thinking about doing a Womens version of it as well as CWC2.
In other news Ryback is telling people he is going to legally change his name to Ryback so he can carry on using it. Edit to add he has already done it according to reports. |
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Obviously. One of the reason I hate Disney is they refuse to let TV channel Challenge buy the rights to air the early series of Catchphrase because they want too much money knowing full well Challenge cant afford it.
Sorry for the Off Topic post, there are reasons to dislike Disney ("hate", really?) but it's false rumours like that which give this forum the reputation it has externally. |
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That's not quite right. Where'd you hear that? 5£3 original series were made by TVS, which yes has eventually been acquired by Disney (via their ABC subsidiary). The problem with Challenge airing them is more to do with the same issue with most TVS shows - over the years, the rights paperwork weren't retained and without this it's near impossible to make sure all the permissions for broadcast have been sourced. It's the same with the British version of Fraggle Rock, for instance.
Sorry for the Off Topic post, there are reasons to dislike Disney ("hate", really?) but it's false rumours like that which give this forum the reputation it has externally. Im sure im not the only one that this pisses off. |
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Anyone heard the rumours that WWE has put a bid in for TNA
http://www.inquisitr.com/3518230/wwe...ling-recently/ http://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-reported...id-to-buy-tna/ |
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Anyone heard the rumours that WWE has put a bid in for TNA
http://www.inquisitr.com/3518230/wwe...ling-recently/ http://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-reported...id-to-buy-tna/ I thought Billy Corgan was pretty much taking over now anyway and keeps buying more and more soon he could own most of it. I haven't even watched TNA since the Final Deletion Match which was so bad it put me off TNA. |
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I think this year is a very low point for wrestling. I read Backlash had 7,000 fans. I know the arenas they use now look tiny on TV but I never thought I'd see them do under 9 or 10k for a PPV. I don't take any pride in it at all. I'm not gloating at all. It upsets me to see a business I've watched for 30 years be at such a low point. Having people like AJ Styles and Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn on national TV......and I know Vince's hand is forced, I know he has no choice but even he must come outside of that bubble at times and realise how it looks. How it comes across.
People on your show that, it's like the idiots in the school playground, the kid that always wants to fight but every one knows there's no chance they're winning any fight lol. They've got them parading on the show with belts and you know the average man or woman at home is laughing, there's no way Kevin Owens or AJ or anyone else from NXT is winning a real fight in real life so why ask people to make believe they're a champion in the wrestling - Format of prime time TV wrestling hasn't changed much at all since mid to late 90's - Running time that of a movie epic - Kids of the Cena and Batista years now teens/adults - 50/50 and constant short term booking - Apathetic approach to narrative - Manchild, corny humour to appeal to McMahon - Obsession with sports entertainment and cult like approach - Changing viewing habits - Yes, too many ordinary looking 'superstars' working a lot of spot based matches without a compelling character depth. - From supplanting Punk as below the partimers while on a long title reign, all the way to booking Rollins like Honky Tonk Man and having him as figurehead for 8 months. Together it has been a toxic combination. |
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It's not really much to do with this. If it was Vince hand-picked guys like Ryback, Sheamus, Reigns and Del Rio would have caught on big time. The lack of defining and creating compelling characters is much more the issue. Generally the decline in ratings could be attributed to:
- Format of prime time TV wrestling hasn't changed much at all since mid to late 90's - Running time that of a movie epic - Kids of the Cena and Batista years now teens/adults - 50/50 and constant short term booking - Apathetic approach to narrative - Manchild, corny humour to appeal to McMahon - Obsession with sports entertainment and cult like approach - Changing viewing habits - Yes, too many ordinary looking 'superstars' working a lot of spot based matches without a compelling character depth. - From supplanting Punk as below the partimers while on a long title reign, all the way to booking Rollins like Honky Tonk Man and having him as figurehead for 8 months. Together it has been a toxic combination. But the problems are almost all in the booking/creative aspect rather than the talent if the guys. Well the working style kinda sucks too but that again could be fixed by good creative direction. |
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I never did like Ryback.
He was ok when squashing jobbers in a few seconds but as soon as he had to have a competitive match that went even a few minuites it showed how bad he was. |
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Like Disney, the illusion is better when you are young.
WWE appealed to a lot of us when we were younger because it was brash, edgy, dangerous, rebellious. It's hard to say to what extent wrestling when we grew up was actually good, and to what extent it was just what that generation demanded. There is a definite culture clash, and that's why when we get the likes of Austin, The Rock etc. showing up, that is most apparent. Rock has been booed more often in some of his more recent appearances because he's not the same character we all loved in the 90s. |
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