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And the reason he can go is a former WWE guy.
They have already had to write 2 guys out to go to NXT/WWE. Wonder who will be next. ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DwmrEQAsT4 |
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What sort of rock/pop songs would suit wwe stars as alternative music for their entrance?
Johnny hates Jazz - Shattered Dreams would be perfect for Goldust given its his one of his signature moves. |
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Lesnar beat Orton in 5 minutes last night. What a great feud that was over two matches. Well done WWE
Orton beat Lesnar with a chair for a few minutes, hit two RKO's but after one F5 it was all over. |
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#TheListofJericho
#TheGiftofJericho A great time to be a #Jerichoholic Will he ever be a WWE Universal Champion? |
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This thread is dying as much as WWE is losing viewers! 4 pages in a week that included 2 live shows and the build up to a PPV.
Anyone see the video of Vladimir Kozlov showing what he does now? Is a good watch, will link it below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zWRGp_cghc |
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This thread is dying as much as WWE is losing viewers! 4 pages in a week that included 2 live shows and the build up to a PPV.
Anyone see the video of Vladimir Kozlov showing what he does now? Is a good watch, will link it below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zWRGp_cghc |
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I think people are losing interest in the product, and rightfully so. The new superstars don't give a damn.
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Lesnar beat Orton in 5 minutes last night. What a great feud that was over two matches. Well done WWE
Orton beat Lesnar with a chair for a few minutes, hit two RKO's but after one F5 it was all over. |
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The superstars are fine. Unfortunately there is little anticipation or intigue because the product revolves around a clique of approximately 20 main superstars fighting each other and trading victories week in and week out in WWE formula 10-15 minute matches. Titles swap back and forth, every match combination you can imagine is run into the ground. The superstars have only the faintest of character depth and promos that are actually interesting. A Zack Ryder or Sin Cara will occasionally beat one of these superstars via roll up. The bookers will try to make results seem unpredictable, but it's easy enough to guess the end result. Considering it's been that way for years and there is 7 hours of it a week, it's little wonder interest amongst even the biggest fans is drying up.
I agree though that 7 hours each week is overkill, and redoing old ideas like the brand split isn't going to help. Maybe there will be a time the WWE ends, nothing lasts forever. We should go back to the territory/indie building route. |
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Have I missed something? Why was there an orton v Lesnar match last night? Where was it?
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Lesnar beat Orton in 5 minutes last night. What a great feud that was over two matches. Well done WWE
Orton beat Lesnar with a chair for a few minutes, hit two RKO's but after one F5 it was all over. |
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I think people are losing interest in the product, and rightfully so. The new superstars don't give a damn.
Ive only just started it a while ago but looking forward to all the buildup leading up to Flairs debut and all the WArrior/Savage drama. Dont think ive watched it since 25 years ago. |
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Vince McMahon basically said in the Steve Austin Podcast the superstars of this era in the locker room when you walk around don't have the same hunger/desire of the Attitude Era.
Its easy for Austin to whine at Ambrose & Styles but they cant pull this shit Austin used to because of advertisers. |
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They could have done this at Summerslam or Night of Champions but seems like the House Show audience got a better match than we got on a PPV. WWE needs to stop wasting Brock matches on non televised events.
They need to use him as a draw for certain house shows and he wanted to fight Orton again, it was a house show, it has limited bearing on TV canon and it was always going to be a 5 minute walkover, so we didn't miss much It would be a waste of Orton if that type of match was at Summerslam, they had to go big, they just decided to go concussion big Not what I would do but I can understand the logic |
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Good evening/morning to everyone staying up, let's see what the red brand can do tonight in terms of a PPV
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Good evening/morning to everyone staying up, let's see what the red brand can do tonight in terms of a PPV
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He has a set amount of house show dates so they're not wasting matches
They need to use him as a draw for certain house shows and he wanted to fight Orton again, it was a house show, it has limited bearing on TV canon and it was always going to be a 5 minute walkover, so we didn't miss much It would be a waste of Orton if that type of match was at Summerslam, they had to go big, they just decided to go concussion big Not what I would do but I can understand the logic |
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What do you reckon the odds are for the remander of Brock's contract where he doesnt get beaten?
He would job to James Ellsworth as long as his appreance fee was paid. |
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Vince Russo says back in the Attitude Era they had many contracts with advertisters including the famous Skittles one and he says back then Vince McMahon was determined to make a success of the Attitude Era that it didn't matter what advertisers thought and for every advertister they lost, there was a list of companies as long as his arm that were dying to be a part of the show. For every advertiser Vince said NO to, there were another 20 willing to take their place so no money was ever lost.
Unfortunately with modern day Vince McMahon and modern day WWE, rather than do deals with every company available, they're determined to deliberately get into bed with very family friendly companies and toy companies and anything aimed at kids. I can see the lack of interest here too. It is what it is. The WWE tries to be everything rather than trying to be pro wrestling and the thing is, throughout history, wrestling has always been a bit of a mish mash of other things. There's the sporting side where they are athletic, but of course there's real sports out there. There was the violence side but of course, you can watch MMA and see people bleed for real. There was always the characters and storylines but look at TV now and for the past 10 years TV has surpassed that, there's TV shows out there that have characters and storylines so far ahead of anything WWE could ever produce. Really what else is there? Whether it's the athletic side, the sporting side, the violence side, the character/storyline development side.........for every single one of them there's other sports and TV shows on that are far better. They WWE can't do better in any of them. It's always gonna come across as low rent. And I think the Raw rating will hit the all time low of 1.5 before the end of the NFL season. And what makes it worse is they're not doing it on purpose. I don't think Vince McMahon is deliberately putting on a bad show and wanting a bad rating, I think what they put on TV is genuinely the best they can do. They don't know how to reach the mass audience anymore. |
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Lita is looking lovely tonight
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What do you reckon the odds are for the remander of Brock's contract where he doesnt get beaten?
Reigns would've been the choice if they hadn't destroyed him with bad booking, I think Balor (although the injury might change this) may have the potential to get into a position where he could be the next big guy but he's 35 and the time may have passed There isn't a Hitman or an HBK, Stone Cold or Rock that is quite clearly the next big guy, until there is, it would be a waste of epic proportions to have Brock lose to anyone, especially Orton Unrelated, did Booker T just say TJ Parker? |
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There isn't anyone placed at the moment who would benefit from the rub
Reigns would've been the choice if they hadn't destroyed him with bad booking, I think Balor (although the injury might change this) may have the potential to get into a position where he could be the next big guy but he's 35 and the time may have passed There isn't a Hitman or an HBK, Stone Cold or Rock that is quite clearly the next big guy, until there is, it would be a waste of epic proportions to have Brock lose to anyone, especially Orton Unrelated, did Booker T just say TJ Parker? |
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Nice easy point incoming here
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Nia Jax vs Alicia Fox.
Over or under 3 mins bell to bell. |
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I think Rusev could be a good choice it would take him from upper midcard to main event.
I could see him as the next big bad though, it would do him good as the replacement for Lesnar but I think if a face gets the rub then he's got the main event push of a lifetime, I've said it before but it's like slamming Andre or beating the Goldberg streak Is it just me that loves them always repeating that Alicia Fox botch, so good |
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