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Old 08-10-2016, 15:15
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I'd go for the $14.99 one. Still waiting for them to add 4K quality.
They need 4K content first and foremost.
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Old 08-10-2016, 15:27
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So looking at the No Mercy card tomorrow...it looks nearly the same as the same card as Backlash. The Smackdown roster does look very thin on the ground.
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Old 08-10-2016, 15:30
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They need 4K content first and foremost.
3D content would be next after that as well!
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Old 08-10-2016, 17:45
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So looking at the No Mercy card tomorrow...it looks nearly the same as the same card as Backlash. The Smackdown roster does look very thin on the ground.
Yet it's still consistently better than RAW.
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Old 08-10-2016, 19:43
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You can tell we're in mid 90s territory when they're offering paid interaction with wrestlers and VIP. It's just replacing the old hotlines and fan clubs. I read they've even started calling the fans again by what they are...fans, rather than an abstract buzzword.

No Mercy looks decent, but 2 PPVs a month is too much really. You can see why the roster split and perhaps added events has only speeded up the ratings decline. As good as Smackdown is they've simply given their remaining viewers the easy option of cutting out Raw or SD depending on preference.
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Old 09-10-2016, 09:19
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That has nothing to do with it.
Wouldnt suprise me though how Brocks been forced down everyones throat the past 2 years watching point Raw promos and Heyman going over the top.

They arent going to let Bill come in win again and then leave.
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Old 09-10-2016, 09:21
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Neither did a lot of people who are better than him Brock for one even Big Show is better than him.


The guy wasn't very good at all it's why he had squash matches.

Coming up through the indies or high spots has nothing to do with it Undertaker is my all time favourite wrestler he spent only a little time on the indies before WCW then WWE and never did high spots.

And there are indie high spot guys who I think are bad or overrated I think both Hardys are two of the most overrated guys in history.


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In fact The Hardys and that stupid Final Deletion Match is the reason I stopped watching TNA as it wasn't wrestling.
Seriously you thinking Show better is just laughable. Least Bill's not a jobber.
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Old 09-10-2016, 09:23
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Looks like Lynch/Bliss is likely off the card tonight, Becky apparently injured. Gutted.
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Old 09-10-2016, 09:23
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Wouldnt suprise me though how Brocks been forced down everyones throat the past 2 years watching point Raw promos and Heyman going over the top.

They arent going to let Bill come in win again and then leave.
Brock has said many times wins and losses mean nothing to him only getting paid matters he would job to James Ellsworth as long as he got paid.

But do you really think after all this time Goldberg who does care about wins and losses would come back for one match a match he wants to have in front of his son would agree on losing.
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Old 09-10-2016, 09:27
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WWE are surveying about these tiers currently. Considering a substantial percentage of the network subscribers are hardcore fans, I think they could get a lot of them to take the 14.99 tier.
Why not survey fans on what content they want rather than pricing. No ones going to say yeah 9.99 is too cheap charge us a extra fiver.
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Old 09-10-2016, 09:28
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Brock has said many times wins and losses mean nothing to him only getting paid matters he would job to James Ellsworth as long as he got paid.

But do you really think after all this time Goldberg who does care about wins and losses would come back for one match a match he wants to have in front of his son would agree on losing.
Brock can say that all he wants but Vince Mcmahon is the one who decides who goes over.
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Old 09-10-2016, 09:31
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Seriously you thinking Show better is just laughable. Least Bill's not a jobber.
I'm talking in their prime not the 2016 versions of them both.

For a big guy Big Show was actully good.
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Old 09-10-2016, 09:32
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Brock can say that all he wants but Vince Mcmahon is the one who decides who goes over.
And Goldberg can refuse to sign a deal unless he wins.
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Old 09-10-2016, 09:36
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Why not survey fans on what content they want rather than pricing. No ones going to say yeah 9.99 is too cheap charge us a extra fiver.
But for that extra £5 you get extra stuff.

If you want it as it is now keep the £9.99 deal if you want even more then it's a extra £5.

If enough people take it then it will more than cover the cost of buying the TNA library.
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Old 09-10-2016, 09:53
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Wouldnt suprise me though how Brocks been forced down everyones throat the past 2 years watching point Raw promos and Heyman going over the top.

They arent going to let Bill come in win again and then leave.
I know. Why the hell would they do that?
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Old 09-10-2016, 12:18
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I know. Why the hell would they do that?
Goldbergs run was more enjoyable than Brock's maybe.
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Old 09-10-2016, 12:20
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Just checked out Sky Ones edited version of Raw and when exactly did they change the stage. Roman came out and I didnt recognise the set up since earlier in the year.
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Old 09-10-2016, 12:46
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Just been watching one of my favourite top 10 matches in Wrestlemania history in the Career match at mania 7 between Warrior vs Savage and cant believe looking back Warrior/Savage/Liz & Sherri are no longer with us.

Its a shame looking back at a event like that seeing so may deceased wrestlers.
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Old 09-10-2016, 14:13
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But for that extra £5 you get extra stuff.

If you want it as it is now keep the £9.99 deal if you want even more then it's a extra £5.

If enough people take it then it will more than cover the cost of buying the TNA library.
Given that the IWC (who make up the majority of Network subscribers) have overwhelmingly insulted and berated TNA for many years, one has to question how WWE accruing their tape library all of a sudden makes watching them a viable proposition...

Interesting to see so many people here saying they would go for the most expensive tier. Have they ever watched TNA in their lives?

It's just the usual WWE brainwashing - once they own the tape library, it suddenly becomes acceptable to watch. You couldn't make it up
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Old 09-10-2016, 15:50
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Mick Foley took to facebook to make the following statement.

"After Braun Strowman's vague threats about there not being a next week unless I got him some competition, I asked all of you to tell me who should be next for Braun Stroman. Based on over 2000 responses, here are your top five answers!"

Basically the top 5 picks were

5. Kane
4. Mark Henry
3. Big Show
2. Brock Lesnar
1. Bill Goldberg

Yeah Kane, henry or Show would just job to him.
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Old 09-10-2016, 15:52
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Goldbergs run was more enjoyable than Brock's maybe.
So they should job out their most protected guy to a 50 year old in for a one-off appearance because he was cool 20 years ago?
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Old 09-10-2016, 15:55
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Given that the IWC (who make up the majority of Network subscribers) have overwhelmingly insulted and berated TNA for many years, one has to question how WWE accruing their tape library all of a sudden makes watching them a viable proposition...

Interesting to see so many people here saying they would go for the most expensive tier. Have they ever watched TNA in their lives?

It's just the usual WWE brainwashing - once they own the tape library, it suddenly becomes acceptable to watch. You couldn't make it up
Surely the main draw of the £14.99 tier is live shows from other, smaller promotions. That's what I've taken from the reports so far, nothing about attempting to 'brainwash' anyone into watching old TNA.
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Old 09-10-2016, 16:12
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Surely the main draw of the £14.99 tier is live shows from other, smaller promotions. That's what I've taken from the reports so far, nothing about attempting to 'brainwash' anyone into watching old TNA.
Yeah exactly that, if more promotions than just TNA, Evolve, and Ring of Honour are added, then that would be why I would be interested in paying the top price, nothing to do with brainwashing at all.

If it becomes almost a one stop shop, for us the fans to catch up with a wide variety of promotions, from even perhaps around the globe, and it kind of turns from a WWE Network, to a more, Wrestling Network, then that would be ideal I think.
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Old 09-10-2016, 16:20
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Given that the IWC (who make up the majority of Network subscribers) have overwhelmingly insulted and berated TNA for many years, one has to question how WWE accruing their tape library all of a sudden makes watching them a viable proposition...

Interesting to see so many people here saying they would go for the most expensive tier. Have they ever watched TNA in their lives?

It's just the usual WWE brainwashing - once they own the tape library, it suddenly becomes acceptable to watch. You couldn't make it up
Once upon a time TNA was worth watching even paying for the KO Division was one of the best womens divisions in the world the X Division was excellent and the matches of Styles Joe Daniels and many more were fantastic.

It wasn't always badvand most of the IWC loved it hell people bought the weekly PPV's before they had Impact but then the curse of Dippy happened.
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Old 09-10-2016, 16:23
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I think WWE are getting to the plateau in subscribers for the network. Given that the product is losing viewers, it's unlikely they'll be able to gain many new people to subscribe to the network. By going down a potential tier network route, you can convert some of those hardcore fans that pay £10/$10 a month to upgrade to £15/$15 a month with the smaller promotion's that many probably watch anyway. I don't necessarily think full access to TNA's library will have much of an influence in those hardcore fans going for the top package.

WWE buying TNA's library is more for doing talent DVDs, rather than adding subscribers to the network.
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