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World Wrestling Entertainment Discussion 42 (Spoilers)
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FMKK
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by stu64:
“Raw is dead. It is a very tired format that goes on to long. To try and save it they are bringing back a old guy to job out to a guy who hates wrestling.”

I don't really see why the business should be revered like a cult. So what if Brock just treats it like a job?

And at this point, I'm kinda pumped for Goldberg. He's everything Roman Reigns should have been.
dave_windows
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by CardioCortez:
“She seems to think she was okay. Doctor's note, etc.
L”

I dont buy it for the simple fact the last suspension she wrestled in england.
dave_windows
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“He's just had the most entertaining run in his career and dropped the belt in a feud that elevated both men so I think they made the right decision in the end. Wish Sami was on Smackdown though.

Paige is done. She's gone totally off the rails since she hooked up with Alberto. We still don't know the real story about the stabbing.”

Sami should have been Smackdown it was dumb to put him and Owens on the same show.
dave_windows
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“But you don't like anybody so I'm not surprised.

Ever since he got his movie star gimmick,”

The movie gimmick sucked!

So I dont like anybody huh?

I like AJ, Roman, Cena, Usos, Rhyno, Taker, Cesaro, Ambrose, Kane, Show, New Day, Enzo, Cass, Jericho, Balor, Nakamura, Henry, Sin, Kalisto, Titus, Vaudevillans, Ziggler, Gable, Jordan, Benjamin, Becky, Eva, Nattie & The Bellas so I really dont get what your smoking.
dave_windows
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by hazydayz:
“You'll never guess which video game James paid £70 for...........lol.”

And whats wrong with paying 79.99 for the NXT edition for 2K17?

You cant play as Nia, Nakamura or Crews if you dont get the NXT edition. I picked that game up this morning but I certinly didnt pay 79.99 for it because I traded in a couple games and got credit for them so technically I paid no money for the game.
dave_windows
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“They wouldn't go this far with the Goldberg stuff unless he had already signed.”

Thats whats pissed me off. I dont want Goldberg in WWE and I dont want him jobbing to the overratted forced down your throat lesnar who goes over everybody.
Hollie_Louise
11-10-2016
For me, the movie star gimmick is the best in WWE and IMO, Miz is currently the best person at portraying his character. It helps of course that he's got a character unlike a lot of people.
dave_windows
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“I don't really see why the business should be revered like a cult. So what if Brock just treats it like a job?

And at this point, I'm kinda pumped for Goldberg. He's everything Roman Reigns should have been.”

I think alot of people dont like how WWE have built Brock up and how he always goes over everyone aside from the Cena and HHH matches but they just traded wins.

No one in WWE right now is even close to looking like they could legimately destroy the beast. If this was 1998 fans would have lapped up Goldberg coming in and slaying Lesnar but WWE wont have Lesnar lose in a throwaway match so Bill's gonna be jobbing just so his son can watch him wrestle.
dave_windows
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“For me, the movie star gimmick is the best in WWE and IMO, Miz is currently the best person at portraying his character. It helps of course that he's got a character unlike a lot of people.”

Why didnt they do something with Daniel Bryan the way they were bigging it up and then Bryan doesnt cost him the belt?
The_don1
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“Why didnt they do something with Daniel Bryan the way they were bigging it up and then Bryan doesnt cost him the belt?”

Because that would make people want a match between them and that is not possible as well you know
Hollie_Louise
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“Why didnt they do something with Daniel Bryan the way they were bigging it up and then Bryan doesnt cost him the belt?”

Because Bryan is a retired wrestler with no medical clearance. Seems quite simple
Lee_Smith2
11-10-2016
I know I'm a total geek with all this, but am I correct in thinking Goldberg is one of the few modern era wrestlers never to be beaten cleanly? On television, at least. Warrior would of course be the other.

If he is, it will be ending soon.
dave_windows
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“Because Bryan is a retired wrestler with no medical clearance. Seems quite simple”

Then why do a angle on Smackdown Talk weeks ago?
The_don1
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“Then why do a angle on Smackdown Talk weeks ago?”

To get The Miz over and raise awareness of Smackdown Talk is the logical reason
dave_windows
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by Lee_Smith2:
“I know I'm a total geek with all this, but am I correct in thinking Goldberg is one of the few modern era wrestlers never to be beaten cleanly? On television, at least. Warrior would of course be the other.

If he is, it will be ending soon.”

If hes coming back just to job out then hes a idiot! As far as never beaten cleanly im not so sure because Armageddon 2003 in the triple threat match Hunter pinned Bill cleanly after a chokeslam from Kane. Now alough Evolution got involved they never attacked Bill only pulled Kane out of the ring so I think that can be classed as cleanly.

Then you had Starrcade 1999 where Roddy was the ref and they did the whole montreal screwjob which I think is near as cleanly as you can get.
FMKK
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“If hes coming back just to job out then hes a idiot! As far as never beaten cleanly im not so sure because Armageddon 2003 in the triple threat match Hunter pinned Bill cleanly after a chokeslam from Kane. Now alough Evolution got involved they never attacked Bill only pulled Kane out of the ring so I think that can be classed as cleanly.

Then you had Starrcade 1999 where Roddy was the ref and they did the whole montreal screwjob which I think is near as cleanly as you can get.”

£1 million plus to lose a fake wrestling match or 0 to keep a fake unbeaten streak alive well after he's been retired.

I think the idiotic option is clear.
FMKK
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“I think alot of people dont like how WWE have built Brock up and how he always goes over everyone aside from the Cena and HHH matches but they just traded wins.

No one in WWE right now is even close to looking like they could legimately destroy the beast. If this was 1998 fans would have lapped up Goldberg coming in and slaying Lesnar but WWE wont have Lesnar lose in a throwaway match so Bill's gonna be jobbing just so his son can watch him wrestle.”

This is all WWE's problem for their booking, not Lesnar's.
cris182
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows;84187674[B:
“]If hes coming back just to job out then hes a idiot[/b]! As far as never beaten cleanly im not so sure because Armageddon 2003 in the triple threat match Hunter pinned Bill cleanly after a chokeslam from Kane. Now alough Evolution got involved they never attacked Bill only pulled Kane out of the ring so I think that can be classed as cleanly.

Then you had Starrcade 1999 where Roddy was the ref and they did the whole montreal screwjob which I think is near as cleanly as you can get.”

He would be a bigger idiot saying no to all that money to lose a match in an era where he is was less known that he was in his prime

If anything he had WWE in his hand here, He has obviously got what he wanted. Smart guy not an idiot, He knows wrestling isn't real unlike some
dave_windows
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by cris182:
“He would be a bigger idiot saying no to all that money to lose a match in an era where he is was less known that he was in his prime

If anything he had WWE in his hand here, He has obviously got what he wanted. Smart guy not an idiot, He knows wrestling isn't real unlike some”

Alot of his fans would rather he stayed retired and know that he won his last match.
cris182
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“Alot of his fans would rather he stayed retired and know that he won his last match.”

Are his fans all 5? Why does it matter if he won or lost his last match, And the wrestlers rule is you go out on a loss for the record
stu64
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“I don't really see why the business should be revered like a cult. So what if Brock just treats it like a job?

And at this point, I'm kinda pumped for Goldberg. He's everything Roman Reigns should have been.”

I have nothing against Brock treating it like a job and have defended that point on here before. Yet for the last 12/18 months or so, he has become beyond lazy and shows no effort any more. Even Ambrose said Lesnar was lazy and did not want to do anything for his WM match this year.

Lesnar can say and do what the hell he wants as he has that much pulling power backstage, so if he wanted matches to be much more than just some F5'` and suplex's, then they would be. Yet that is all he can be bothered to do now.

As for Goldberg, the guy is nearly 50 now and could hardly wrestle a good match in his prime.
cris182
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by stu64:
“I have nothing against Brock treating it like a job and have defended that point on here before. Yet for the last 12/18 months or so, he has become beyond lazy and shows no effort any more. Even Ambrose said Lesnar was lazy and did not want to do anything for his WM match this year.

Lesnar can say and do what the hell he wants as he has that much pulling power backstage, so if he wanted matches to be much more than just some F5'` and suplex's, then they would be. Yet that is all he can be bothered to do now.

As for Goldberg, the guy is nearly 50 now and could hardly wrestle a good match in his prime.”

He is about to get a big payoff for maybe hitting 2 moves and getting pinned, Good matches or not he is going to well out of this
stu64
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by cris182:
“He is about to get a big payoff for maybe hitting 2 moves and getting pinned, Good matches or not he is going to well out of this”

That is not my argument though. Well done for Goldberg for making good money but for fans, I think the match will suck. Not sure why some think it will be some kind of classic match up.

Lesnar/Orton should and could of a been a classic feud and matches, yet we all know what shit that turned out to be.

What they should be doing with Lesnar is have him work with the likes of Owens/Harper/Rusev and get them built up high and maybe actually let one of them pin Brock clean.
James Frederick
11-10-2016
Think is he has to be built up as younger/newer fans have no idea who he is and clips from 15-20 years ago is not really going to do much.

I do wonder if he will do more maybe even beat or at least take down Braun Strowman (Though rumours are Samoa Joe will be the first to do it)

But Goldberg still has to do something to make him look like a threat
Lee_Smith2
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“Think is he has to be built up as younger/newer fans have no idea who he is and clips from 15-20 years ago is not really going to do much.

I do wonder if he will do more maybe even beat or at least take down Braun Strowman (Though rumours are Samoa Joe will be the first to do it)

But Goldberg still has to do something to make him look like a threat”

From looking at the crowds it seems the majority of TV and PPV audiences are predominantly over the age of 25. In contrast to 5-10 years ago, when there seemed to be many more families. Or 20-25 years ago when there seemed to be children everywhere.

Either way, my nephew is 8 and a huge Goldberg fan. The power of YouTube and Mattel's range of classic superstars...
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