Yup.

I was introduced to Indy wrestling after only ever really watching and going to WWE shows for over 20 years back in April when on the spur of the moment I went to an Attack Pro wrestling show the night before Wrestlemania.

It was hands down the most exciting live wrestling experience I've ever had.

Now the thought of paying £80 to go to RAW and £65 to go to a house show is repulsive.

Attack Pro put in so much effort with such little resources and produce a product that is vibrant and exciting. WWE have all the resources and produce, for the most part, rubbish.

Something I never got with these WWE Network exclusive shows for the weekly TV. It seemed like a fans dream having a pre and post show and then all it is, is talk talk talk. Where the hell are the dark matches or the post show exclusive footage?

A wasted opportunity there when all these satellite feeds from years ago did show all this stuff. Shame WWE couldnt be bothered to do it properly.

I don't think he's fit enough after the hip surgery, I'm assuming they kept the hat on him so it wouldn't be that visible how frail he's looking

And depending on the booking it wouldn't make sense for him to join Smackdown and then lose when they could do what they've done, have Raw win and it then feeds into a programme with Taker once he's fit

Saying that though, I'm not sure how any of the matches are going to go, all 3 Raw teams are far stronger on paper, but I highly doubt they'll win all 3, can't see the Raw women getting beat, or the men, and it makes no sense for the tag teams to get beat either

At least 1 of them is going to implode though, either Sasha/Bayley and Charlotte, or New Day and Gallows/Anderson, and cost their team the match, that's my bet anyway

Given the news about Vader I wonder if he will be inducted into the 2017 HOF?

I would guess he will have gone in sooner or later anyway and they will want him in while he's still alive.

I hope so, he deserves to be in more than quite a few current members

What about doing something similar to how he was booked in the 1993 one? Stay on the apron for the near entire match then tag in and have a double count out with say Strowman.

Pay someone a massive amount of money to stand on the apron?

Yep that would not be a massive amount of time and money

ellsworth to screw over smackdown at survivor series after steph offers him a job

you heard it here first

Rumour has it that Styles will be the man to cause Team Smackdown to lose on Sunday which will lead to a match with The Undertaker at Royal Rumble.

You can see why they'd be booking this. Styles could drop the belt to Undertaker at the Royal Rumble which would lead in turn to Undi dropping the title to John Cena in the main event of Wrestlemania 33. It allows WWE to book their Taker vs Cena match and give John his big Flair record tieing win at their biggest show of the year.

It's hardly innovative booking but at least it makes sense.

Im sure the fans would just be happy Taker was there.

Unless John Stewart interferes again and says he did it because he doesnt want anyone breaking Flairs record.

I am sure they would be BUT does not mean they should waste an awful lot of money and time doing it.

Apart from making a few fans "happy" it makes no sense whatsoever

Whatever happened to this Dont be a Bully campaign WWE likes to promote?

Then you get this Jericho/Cara fight and these things gets reported.

We originally learned that Sin Cara was forced to take anger management classes for his role in starting the altercation. It looks like that wasn’t the end of it.

According to PWInsider.com, instead of taking the WWE chartered flight with the rest of the roster to RAW this week, Sin Cara was forced to make the 6 hour drive to Buffalo instead. That wasn’t the end of it though….

The report also says that Sin Cara was banned from the dressing room this week, forcing him to change with all of the extras.

Seems like they are out to victimise the guy over some backstage thing.

or ellsworth has already signed with steph

It's called "disciplinary action". He's been taken out of the environment to avoid a further altercation, and he could have flown if he'd paid for it - but he chose to drive. A six hour drive isn't that bad to Americans.

But hey, bullying if you want to look at it through the eyes of a school kid.

Why does WWE constantly bullshit things?

So reading a news report and there is this link WWE posted about WWE superstars who are undefeated at Survivor Series and they list Randy Savage, The Ultimate Warrior, Mickie James, Rick Rude and Brutus Beefcake.

Thats funny because I was watching the 1993 one yesterday and Randy Savage was clearly pinned by IRS,

Now I dont recall Warrior losing but Rick Rude deffinately did in the 1987 one, I forget who pinned him but im guessing either Hogan or Muraco. Beefcake I think was either Honky or Valentine in the 1988 one.

So why do WWE never get their facts right?

It's just a WWE article, calm down.

Maybe you need to pay more attention to things before getting outraged (and listen to the actual video) it sounded to me they are more talking about the "team" record that person was involved with more their individual records, in fact i seem to remember for one of the people on the list they also mentioned their individual record

Watched the Eric Bischoff doc last night on the network.It briefly covers his time with the WWE which got me thinking. Can anyone recall if Bischoff's debut with the WWE back in 2002 was leaked online before hand or was it a complete surprise?

Why do fans at times have to hijack a match?

Got me thinking about the wrestlemania 20 Brock/Goldberg match. I mean so what if both guys are leaving it shouldnt take anything away from enjoying the match.

This survivor series match is going to suck big time and they are going to have it on as the last match and with Bill keeps fluffing up with physical things I dont really see why he would come back just to job to Lesnar. Sure he wants his kid see him wrestle but would someone really want to wrestle and see them lose in front of their kid.

One more day for another Lesnar VS Goldberg flop. Massively overhyped they are even doing interviews on mainstream American TV stations about it like it is Ali Vs Frazier !

Yeah it is pretty embarrassing! Goldberg so far has botched a couple of moves during the Rusev/Heyman segment and then injured a shoulder this week against those security guards. He also sweats non stop while he is stood around talking!

Also Lesnar is quite clearly coming off a steroid cycle as he muscle definition looks soft as hell.

I do fear for Goldberg's safety theres no way hes going to be able to take suplex after suplex.

He will be banged up hard after the match. Yes he looks in good shape but he is quite clearly struggling with the physical side.

Maybe it be better for the show if they announced Bill was injured and WWE chose a replacement instead.